Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[Ausuka]

just elim me if u guys want to so badly
like im not gonna really fight it i dont have the motivation for that

like its true

idrc for being forced to give reads
even so, i dont even knowwhat my reads are rn, im so confused abt everything and i was purposely trying to fade out yeah.

like its true

idrc for being forced to give reads
even so, i dont even knowwhat my reads are rn, im so confused abt everything and i was purposely trying to fade out yeah.

like, if you're town here, this is just not helpful

you don't have to give reads on everyone but at least put a vote down and stand for

something

if you believe Gamma's scum you're never going to get them eliminated with this attitude so to me it's hard to see a genuine townie trying to win

maybe i would be more helpful if u STOPPED TRYING TO FORCE ME TO DO STUFF

just elim me if u guys want to so badly
like im not gonna really fight it i dont have the motivation for that

This feels pretty fake..

elim me then......

do it do it

losing energy when pushed) i think is actually pretty prototypical of her scumgame

i lost energy even before i was pushed tbhs but sure lets say its because i got pushed :kekw:

This is what I was referring to but on review I think her play in Eurybia's curse was better on balance. Like, Marci's never going to be an Alexcellent type player, but I think there was more reasoning and analysis that looked insightful in that game even if it was still light-hearted in tone.

Sorry I know I'm being indecisive again I suck at mafia tbh

[Ausuka]

Basically Marci is somewhat scummy in my eyes not because of what she's doing but what she's not doing I guess. She's capable of the ate and gut pushing behaviour as town but I think she showed a more consistently gsmesolvy attitude as town?? She's kind of just been on Dats since d1 and a whole lot of her stuff has been incoherent. Sorry Marci you know I like you.

[marcistar]

betrayal

[Ausuka]

I mean we've been enemies since the start it's more like a fight between siblings

[Ausuka]

Eh whatever let's turn up the heat

VOTE: marcistar

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[Alexcellent]

I'm kind of getting to the stage where I think she's probably the correct choice for elimination anyway.

She could be scum or she could be town. Thing is she's done nothing today that suggests she's town. Like I don't trust Johnny and I don't fully buy what he's selling, but I can buy that he's genuinely probably busy and has other stuff going on and that's why he's so lurky and doesn't add much. On the other hand, Marci still takes the time to come in and troll the game. So it's more like she actively doesn't care to share reads, answer questions or present a case. This is either a player that is openly scum, or she's a player that stopped caring about the game a long time ago and is just here for the lols now. In either case, a wagon there is probably a good idea.

Going to mull it over though, I kind of change my opinion on the game state every couple of hours. But yeah, Marci's a decent elim. Freedom and Johnny also work for me.

p-edit: noice

[Alexcellent]

UNVOTE: Johnny

It's 2:30am here, imma decide where my vote lands tomorrow

[marcistar]

On the other hand, Marci still takes the time to come in and troll the game. So it's more like she actively doesn't care to share reads, answer questions or present a case.

since when have i ever done this??
ask me a question and ill deadass answer it smh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote count 3.09

with 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-25 03:00:00).

yeet

marcistar[3]:

Gamma Emerald, Datisi, Ausuka

Freedom[1]:

JohnnyFarrar

Datisi[1]:

marcistar

not voting [3]:

Freedom, Scamper, Alexcellent

Mod Note

Happy Scumday Ausuka!

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[Ausuka]

You are my fire

The one desire

Believe when I say

I want it that way

[JohnnyFarrar]

We do this with 1 day left??

Do we want me to protect a VT or test a claim overnight?

[Ausuka]

I mean we have two and a half days

I think you probably want to target a VT claim?? Mechanics are hard but I think the most likely use case for your role is that you either successfully protect a VT or catch a VT claim which is actually Mafia Night 4 Announcing Follower or something

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma, why were you townreading marci before and why do you not read her as such right now

I felt like her play/positioning early on was like mine in Eurybia's Curse
atp I just can't rlly stomach her just doing nothing to actually look town

[Datisi]

alex, how much of a tryharding scum are you when you're scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

wdym im not just memeing i have reasons its just so much to type u should tots vote datisi tho..

do you think being lazy is going to change anyone's opinion of you atp?

[Ausuka]

If Alex is scum here I'd be super impressed. I've felt aligned with a lot of his thoughts today and in a stalled gamestate he was willing to go the extra mile to actually produce content. I don't think going after him or scamper is ever going to be worth it in terms of winrate.

[Datisi]

i had a thought that his "lol i guess i can vote marci if she doesn't explain datisi read" doesn't look very Good if marci flips red but idk lole, that's a question for tomorrow me maybe

[Datisi]

i had two cocktails at work and drunktisi is a master scumhunter okay

[Ausuka]

I thought about it for a bit and if marci flips red I'm probably still going after freedom. So like, if I die someone do that please.

[Ausuka]

Basic assumptions about balance like you shouldn't put 2 vigs in a 12 player game, or you shouldn't make ICs bulletproof, or you shouldn't put three mafia doctors in a gunsmith game? Normal mods can and do mess with players in this way. Maybe it's pointless to talk in circles about it though.

This sounds like one of Datisi's games.

Because my suspicion of Datisi has been lighter than my suspicion of Marci and then Marci started openwolfing

I mean the post I quoted alone has to be the scummiest thing in this game so far? Marci gets pushed, seems to completely crumble under pressure, insists she's sure Dats is scum, and then turns around and says 'oh Dats you're so silly tunneling me here! btw I'm going to go lurk now for Better Reads or whatever'

I agree.
That sounds very like scum!marci, at least per Micro 1056 which Datisi mentioned. I'm pretty sure that when Faker called her scum, she started saying things like:

PLEASE you're scum

Though, she didn't switch back.
So, maybe this could be town!marci?

I thought the shoshin-marci interaction was unlikely to be s/s but both of those players are unconventional so I guess I could see s!shoshin coming in to hard defend her, maybe?

This looks like a fairly safe partner read, Freedom distancing from marci a bit but unwilling to commit.

[Ausuka]

I keep tripping up on the fact that I find it really hard to see scum Shoshin and if Freedom is scum here it's exceptional play from her. I don't know

[Ausuka]

Freedom is like sooooo scummy though, you guys see it right?

[marcistar]

im not scum

[Ausuka]

I am aligned with the

town.

[marcistar]

i was typing up my read on datisi last night but then i got tired so i took a pause on it but now that theres a wagon on me i kinda dont feel like continuing it but do i force myself to do it anyways or do i just go eat dinner