LOST (Game Over)

[Dancing Puppets]

Nancy talk to me about OTH because they have been sliding in my reads since day 1.

Well, take Gamma’s outburst at the end of d2 for example, where Gamma clearly misread Luke’s and Pooky’s trolling of Marci. Why does scum!Gamma ever flip out like that if Math flips scum? Gamma was clearly worried that they would get run up in the event of a Math townflip.

Gamma is pretty much incapable of faking that level of emotion. OtH is NEVER scum here.

Yeah and I stand by this. I still have 0 clue what you’re talking about?

[Off The Hook]

I might be missing context actually, I was just going off that last line, but the part before it specifies I was worried about a Math townflip. So the argument you're making is not that I couldn't fake

emotion

, but I couldn't fake

uninformed perspective

like that.

~GE

[Dancing Puppets]

Spoiler:

im not trying to kill oth

gamma is capable of faking anger as scum

see slaughter hour

Gamma didn’t fake anything. His anger was still genuine. Your assumption of it impossible for scum to be genuinely upset is wrong.

And Gamma was extremely clearly upset that if Math flipped town, Marci would get blamed for that.

I was trying to find the original post that started this topic off because I thought it had gone unaddressed, but since Pooky added something I'll respond to the latest part of the reply chain I found:
Both Pooky and Nancy's positions here are wack. I'm pretty sure I've iterated multiple times to them that I don't fake emotion as scum, I just angle it differently. To cite events in Slaughter Hour, I was legitimately pissed no one listened to me on Infinity, but towards the end of that event I ceded the point because I knew I could gain sway once my read was proven correct. And the reason why I said both are wack was that in the original post Nancy said my emotion here was genuine, ignoring the above point.
I do have to ask, Pooky, what emotions are you saying I faked that game? To make that accusation with no specificity runs a dangerous line, as I had emotional aftershocks from that game that have lasted until very recently.

~GE

So then I don’t get it Gamma, what is “whack” about our position?

You're ignoring nuance that I'm 99% sure I've spoken about with you in proximity countless times.

~GE

I’m really not following?

In this post:

Nancy talk to me about OTH because they have been sliding in my reads since day 1.

Well, take Gamma’s outburst at the end of d2 for example, where Gamma clearly misread Luke’s and Pooky’s trolling of Marci. Why does scum!Gamma ever flip out like that if Math flips scum? Gamma was clearly worried that they would get run up in the event of a Math townflip.

Gamma is pretty much incapable of faking that level of emotion. OtH is NEVER scum here.

You said "Gamma can't fake these emotions so he's town". The issue is I

rarely if ever

fake emotions as either alignment, so it's a net-zero statement to say I wouldn't fake emotions as scum. Pooky probably got close, I am just a bit triggered by him saying my emotions in Slaughter Hour were fake because as I said, that game actually shook me to my core.

~GE

Yeah, so I still don’t get why you think what I posted was “whack”? No not really because Pooky and Luke were trolling that Marci would be blamed in the event of a town!Math flip and if you and he were buddies, you would obviously already know that couldn’t possibly happen, so why would you be upset in that case?

[Dancing Puppets]

I might be missing context actually, I was just going off that last line, but the part before it specifies I was worried about a Math townflip. So the argument you're making is not that I couldn't fake

emotion

, but I couldn't fake

uninformed perspective

like that.

~GE

You practically lost your shit over it and that makes absolutely no sense if you and him were buddies.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You said "Gamma can't fake these emotions so he's town". The issue is I rarely if ever fake emotions as either alignment, so it's a net-zero statement to say I wouldn't fake emotions as scum. Pooky probably got close, I am just a bit triggered by him saying my emotions in Slaughter Hour were fake because as I said, that game actually shook me to my core.

I'm not saying your emotions in slaughter hour are faked.

I am saying you use anger/emotion to get townread when scum if you have an appropriate trigger point.

[Off The Hook]

Look at it for what? That was a portion of the game that I completely missed

1) Cephrir was diverted from Math. How and why?
2) Was Taly scum as well? That relates to 1.
3) Should we start from the position that D1 Taly's reads were worse or equal for scum than Cephrir?

~Titus

Taly was not scum. Math clearly didn’t gaf whether he voted Ceph or Taly.

what threw me off was Math's stance on Taly/Ceph reminded me of his stance on me in PYP
If that hadn't happened I probably would have agreed w marci on mathblade

~GE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You practically lost your shit over it and that makes absolutely no sense if you and him were buddies.

if gamma thinks me/luke are "bullying marci" he's going to lose his shit on us regardless of his alignment because he thinks he's defending marci from us.

[Off The Hook]

im not trying to kill oth

gamma is capable of faking anger as scum

see slaughter hour

you kinda did??? re: 10179

~GE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No it’s not, Gamma isn’t capable of faking this. You’re wrong. This I’m like 99.99999% certain of.

i was replying to this

"faking anger" is not an an accurate way to put it,

I am replying to nancy saying you can't "fake" things

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like my point was that if you get angry/triggered by something - you will get emotional over it.

for example see how you reacted to Prism pushing you in Slaughter Hour.

it's not alignment indicative for you.

if you think me/lukewarm are "bullying marci", you will react extremely strongly regardless of your alignment.

[Off The Hook]

...
I have thoughts but they aren't for here.

~GE

[Off The Hook]

apparently every role pm has an episode title in it for whatever reason

We have been informed that there is a minimum of 1 vanilla townie in this set up. And they do not have an episode title in their pm.

Which is why people who have not said if they are a VT or not should probably not weigh in on this convo

ah

~GE

[Best Bird]

hmm - i guess mine is an episode title. I just thought it was a statement of fact...

[RCEnigma]

I regret asking fwiw.

[RCEnigma]

It’s pretty clear just by my role that the flavor does determine what kind of role you have.

There have been a ton of flavor softs already.

Not sure flavor claiming is helpful to town though

Would recommend not doing this. Imo.
Flavor claiming I mean.
Unless you’re a rock. In which case feel free.

Makes me feel Bell wouldn’t soft with the title to his episode.

[RCEnigma]

But I wouldn’t know what I would be looking for even if he did.

[Rad]

I was looking through the Lost wiki at the episodes Bella mentioned... the character Juliet is indeed a doctor. So yeah... flavor matches...

I couldn't find anything specific from "the other woman" episode that points to Juliet being "macho" but maybe that's not spelled out in the wiki. Any Lost watchers wanna comment on that? Any macho-like character development from her in that episode?

[Mislim Bait]

Spoiler:

im not trying to kill oth

gamma is capable of faking anger as scum

see slaughter hour

Gamma didn’t fake anything. His anger was still genuine. Your assumption of it impossible for scum to be genuinely upset is wrong.

And Gamma was extremely clearly upset that if Math flipped town, Marci would get blamed for that.

I was trying to find the original post that started this topic off because I thought it had gone unaddressed, but since Pooky added something I'll respond to the latest part of the reply chain I found:
Both Pooky and Nancy's positions here are wack. I'm pretty sure I've iterated multiple times to them that I don't fake emotion as scum, I just angle it differently. To cite events in Slaughter Hour, I was legitimately pissed no one listened to me on Infinity, but towards the end of that event I ceded the point because I knew I could gain sway once my read was proven correct. And the reason why I said both are wack was that in the original post Nancy said my emotion here was genuine, ignoring the above point.
I do have to ask, Pooky, what emotions are you saying I faked that game? To make that accusation with no specificity runs a dangerous line, as I had emotional aftershocks from that game that have lasted until very recently.

~GE

So then I don’t get it Gamma, what is “whack” about our position?

You're ignoring nuance that I'm 99% sure I've spoken about with you in proximity countless times.

~GE

I’m really not following?

In this post:

Nancy talk to me about OTH because they have been sliding in my reads since day 1.

Well, take Gamma’s outburst at the end of d2 for example, where Gamma clearly misread Luke’s and Pooky’s trolling of Marci. Why does scum!Gamma ever flip out like that if Math flips scum? Gamma was clearly worried that they would get run up in the event of a Math townflip.

Gamma is pretty much incapable of faking that level of emotion. OtH is NEVER scum here.

You said "Gamma can't fake these emotions so he's town". The issue is I

rarely if ever

fake emotions as either alignment, so it's a net-zero statement to say I wouldn't fake emotions as scum. Pooky probably got close, I am just a bit triggered by him saying my emotions in Slaughter Hour were fake because as I said, that game actually shook me to my core.

~GE

Yeah, so I still don’t get why you think what I posted was “whack”? No not really because Pooky and Luke were trolling that Marci would be blamed in the event of a town!Math flip and if you and he were buddies, you would obviously already know that couldn’t possibly happen, so why would you be upset in that case?

this read isn't bad but it's disaster waiting to happen.

[Mislim Bait]

flavor gaming sucks

I haven't watch lost thats why

[T-Bone]

We have to flip you regardless! So it only matters in the off chance you flip town despite the guilty claim.

I think we should wait for the claim and go from there.

I was saying that in response to Bella posting a couple of times and not claiming.

[T-Bone]

We have to flip you regardless! So it only matters in the off chance you flip town despite the guilty claim.

I think we should wait for the claim and go from there.

I was saying that in response to Bella posting a couple of times and not claiming.

[T-Bone]

The alive slots that mentioned tracker this game: Drap, Pooky, TBone.

Did I? I don't remember

[T-Bone]

Those skilled at reading back may want to see who diverted Cephrir from gladiating Math.

~Titus

It was me diverting it from Johnny to Taly.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok this might be dumb

but if the scum have "unlimited strongman shots" why exactly is our doctor "macho"

[T-Bone]

Bella issue resolves itself in time, no?

only if we commit to yeeting her tomorrow if she's still alive otherwise it's a wifom game.

and i don't trust people to commit to doing that tbh

Bella issue never resolves itself what is this???