They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
The push on you seems a bit out of nowhere? Already faded but you're basically confirmed town if you weren't already for your pushes on Math. No way that was scum theatre.
In post 78, MalcolmTucker wrote:The push on you seems a bit out of nowhere? Already faded but you're basically confirmed town if you weren't already for your pushes on Math. No way that was scum theatre.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
I think Bella is almost certainly lying here. Felt wary to push for someone who had claimed given I'm crap at understanding role mechanics a lot of the time but their tale seems really implausible.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
This feels incredibly clearing for C/G. Bella trying to support the C/G wagon as the alternative to the Math wagon feels like it does not make sense if all 3 are scum.
I
want
it to be indicative of scum!BBT (because, why not join the bigger counter wagon), but looking at it more closely, I kinda question it. Because, this is what sparked Bella moving there.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
Trying to organize my thoughts, and I think I am at
Rad
has been tanking my read on him with time. The more he goes wild with his posting, the more I think it is intentional. Plus he was bending over backwards to come up a reason to not kill Bella and was off the math wagon.
Enchant
I want to compare how Corwin engaged with Mala getting a Day 1 pass, and how he engaged with Enchant getting a Day 1 pass.
In post 9123, T-Bone wrote:I just wanna say, I am literally having to work with Nancy here to get even one vote on Enchant so this is anything but easy.
I keep going back and forth between voting there, and sticking to my math read tbh
Puppets+T-Bone+Me is an incredible start to a wagon, and with the three of us making these kinds of posts, I feel like the scum team should be salivating at the idea of saving Math by killing enchant here.
That post from me was 9129
in 9178, Bella has Enchant as a scum read. But still does not vote. Subject: LOST (N3)
Bellaphant wrote:? I don't feel like I said or thought that? And I agree, I need to more critical of Luke's conclusions.
My scum reads are boring - there's at least one scum in Johnny/mala/enchant.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
In post 84, Lukewarm wrote:Puppets+T-Bone+Me is an incredible start to a wagon, and with the three of us making these kinds of posts, I feel like the scum team should be salivating at the idea of saving Math by killing enchant here.
Especially with me basically announcing that Enchant was The Wagon that could pull me off of Math there.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
And yes, I am aware that C/G was a bigger wagon at the time of her vote.
But having a wagon composition of : Rad, BBT, TBone on C/G compared to DP, Luke, TBone on Enchant feels like where they should want to go.
(I also pull a vote off of Math)
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There are calls for an enchant elimination, from several players with high thread sway. AND bella has a stated scum read on Enchant, AND math can never vote C/G based on his reads (but can vote enchant) BUT Bella chooses to join C/G instead of Enchant.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
In post 2947, Cephrir wrote:you know, if we can't figure out who is scum (and i'm not alone in struggling to find scumreads) we can always punt today by eliminating enchant and try again tomorrow
Why do you suggest this? I hate being this far behind.
enchant is enchant, he isn't going to do anything or become readable, and since i'm struggling to find legit scumreads i'm starting to think he could be one of the missing pieces
I feel the same about Not Mafia
But just because I can’t read someone doesn’t make them a good elim
Otherwise I would elim Titus every game and I am trying to be better about it and figure out why people ping me
THIS DAY 1, AFTER HE WAS UNDER SO MUCH PRESSURE HE CLAIMED.
And he is shooting down an Enchant Elim.
(He then never mentions Enchant again for the rest of the game)
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
I like your reasoning for Enchant there - I'd grown more convinced in the main thread Enchant was not scum on the basis that their push for Bella was strong, but it seems likely that Enchant may have bussed - looking through some of those posts again, in retrospect Enchant feels a little bit too confident that Bella was going to come back as scum maybe.
I could also get back on a Rad wagon. I think DP was wrong town but Rad's arguments for saving Bella were too convoluted for me.
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
If Enchant was going all-in on the bus, it'd make sense for Rad to potentially act as the defence on the off-chance we actually bought it and started to believe Bella was town. Nobody has consistently really been scumreading Rad other than me either which may have made them feel a bit more confident. I'd been leaning more town re the slot for end of D2/start of D3 but I think I'm just struggling to gauge what is likely to make them town or scum respectively.
Rad's progression also seems a bit off reading back. Pro-elimination, quickly change their mind, then back to wanting the day to be over quickly again.
In post 91, MalcolmTucker wrote:Rad's progression also seems a bit off reading back. Pro-elimination, quickly change their mind, then back to wanting the day to be over quickly again.
Yeah, that stood out to me too.
Makes it harder to believe he believes the things he is saying
They're super opinionated and make a lot of assumptions, they're also pretty clumsy with word choice - Bell
Luke, respect for your scumgame has gone up massively - Hectic
What do you think of CSF? I've not said much yet because I need to ISO them but I'm growing suspicious a bit, their pushes seem completely out of chime where I now think scum is and I feel they've been a bit...absent from doing much substantial at times? I assumed they had similar activity levels to me, but just noticed there's over 400 posts there. For a good player they seem fairly quiet right now.