Mini Normal 2276: Around the World - Game Over!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

vote count 5.02

with 5 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 5 ends in (expired on 2022-08-06 20:00:00).

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not voting [5]:Ausuka, JohnnyFarrar, Scamper, marcistar, Gamma Emerald

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[Ausuka]

Yeah that's fair I guess
It's late and I'm tired but if you're around I guess I could go into gamma iso again to see if the association with Johnny are there?

Unless it seems that there is a significant risk of us losing I kinda want to vote Marci sooner rather than later

[scamper]

yeah that's fine, if i could wipe away my doubts there i would feel a lot more at ease

[Ausuka]

still thinking ausuka and bella are town

scamper is spewed town from corwin's iso, and i think crescent's play around corwin really isn't scum

i don't remember why i was townreading gamma, but i'm gonna trust past!datisi

and with great sorrow i announce that i found a progression from marcistar that, in this economy, i really doubt comes from scum

so that leaves: alex, johnny, std, freedom

VOTE: johnny

i'm gonna sheep scamper for the time being. i'll try to figure out what's what at some point

JF you wanna actually bother to explain your read on me?

VOTE: johnnyfarrar

Hmm this feels important but idk what to think

Like i guess it is just like ... it could be a bus vote but doesn't have to be? Idk I'd like to hear what you think about it I suppose

[Ausuka]

alright so trying to read through gammas iso:

the early comment on townpinging alex feels like a stretchy read

im slightly bothered still by how she backed down on her scumread of me quickly, because it makes me wonder whether it was even real in the first place

similarly the read on one of cres/shos is whatever to me but the fact she doesnt really do anything with it until shoshin started pushing her pings me

a significant chunk of her posts all read like commentary to me, there's a lot of responding to things other people were saying but not a lot of what i would call analysis or game-advancing content

the argument with shoshin doesnt really come off looking great, i dont like the way she reacts to shoshin attacking her and the accusation of her being "wishy-washy" is nonsense, it looks like applying a generic buzzword that doesnt really fit shoshins behavior

im bothered by how she 180'd her read when freedom showed up because it feels very conveniently timed, 639 feels like a reachy justification to move off a vote

at this point gamma wraps u all her attantion in defending marcistar and again im noting she doesnt actually have a scumread she wants to push at this point. if shes convinced marcistar is town i would expect an effort to sort her voters but i dont get that here, i get more the impression gamma is talking about this stuff because she wants to be seen as being right on marci

there was reference to a secret scumread at 76 and im not sure anything ever came of it?

904 is a super weird post, because it looks more like she wants someone to talk her into scumreading alex than to actually defend alex?

but she has no scumreads she seemed to actually care about

1084 -> 1094 is a line of questioning i dont see the use of and the fact she was so easily satisfied with the answer is Hmm

she kind of just seems to be going with the flow as the corwin wagon builds

notably gamma is putting some suspicion on alex as the wagon on corwin was building and calling out a scumread on him but has had no followthrough on it today, or on her scumread of bella

and i'm not really sure what she's doing right now on day 2...


so overall i'm not really sure why i'm townreading her at all

ngl
If you weren’t basically conftown I’d be scumreading the shit out of this
This entire wall looks like you are deliberately spouting the most uncharitable takes possible on me

Hmm this kind of feels town?? Like the part where he's calling you basically conftown but also is kind of aggressive towards you. Like it doesn't feel super image conscious?

Also part of me feels like if Gamma is scum with Johnny he probably unvotes after you do since it's the perfect excuse to do so and from what he's said this game I feel like he probably genuinely isn't a massive fan of bussing for 'no reason'

[scamper]

still thinking ausuka and bella are town

scamper is spewed town from corwin's iso, and i think crescent's play around corwin really isn't scum

i don't remember why i was townreading gamma, but i'm gonna trust past!datisi

and with great sorrow i announce that i found a progression from marcistar that, in this economy, i really doubt comes from scum

so that leaves: alex, johnny, std, freedom

VOTE: johnny

i'm gonna sheep scamper for the time being. i'll try to figure out what's what at some point

JF you wanna actually bother to explain your read on me?

VOTE: johnnyfarrar

Hmm this feels important but idk what to think

Like i guess it is just like ... it could be a bus vote but doesn't have to be? Idk I'd like to hear what you think about it I suppose

the thing thats weird to me is its just "explan your read on me" but theres not more to it and its at a time when a wagon is building on jf, so like, i dont think a bus is that outlandish? to me if anything i get worried about a vote like that when the reasoning isnt there

[scamper]

Hmm this kind of feels town?? Like the part where he's calling you basically conftown but also is kind of aggressive towards you. Like it doesn't feel super image conscious?

Also part of me feels like if Gamma is scum with Johnny he probably unvotes after you do since it's the perfect excuse to do so and from what he's said this game I feel like he probably genuinely isn't a massive fan of bussing for 'no reason'

ehh, maybe

[Ausuka]

I mean in the first post I wasn't saying a bus was outlandish

I could easily see gamma bussing there but also like I don't think there's much evidence to show that was happening? Like it could have happened but. I don't know I don't really feel like gamma is scum here?

Maybe I shouldn't play mafia at night but oh welll

[Ausuka]

Hmm this kind of feels town?? Like the part where he's calling you basically conftown but also is kind of aggressive towards you. Like it doesn't feel super image conscious?

Also part of me feels like if Gamma is scum with Johnny he probably unvotes after you do since it's the perfect excuse to do so and from what he's said this game I feel like he probably genuinely isn't a massive fan of bussing for 'no reason'

ehh, maybe

Idk dude I'm tryingg

Reviewing the game is hard there's so much stuff

[scamper]

I mean in the first post I wasn't saying a bus was outlandish

I could easily see gamma bussing there but also like I don't think there's much evidence to show that was happening? Like it could have happened but. I don't know I don't really feel like gamma is scum here?

Maybe I shouldn't play mafia at night but oh welll

ok, fair enuf

[Ausuka]

I was kind of hoping gamma would be here and trying to solve between jf or scamper or resolving the possibility I'm scum

I don't know if I should be paranoid that isn't happening, maybe I just need to be more patient?

My issue is that idk I just feel like if Marci is town we lose the game because she never co operates with me in an elo situation and also Marci is like genuinely smart and easy to talk to in most situations and I don't think she actually behaves like this as town

So for that reason alone a gamma Johnny team is difficult for me to believe

[Ausuka]

OK Gamma I was going through your games to see if I could find an example of you in elo as town and uh, you post in a lot of topics and do not appear to live to elo that often

Would you mind linking me to some?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I don't recall ever seeing Gamma in Elo either

[Ausuka]

Zzz I feel like I care too much and am just being annoying

Idk I think I'll just wait until the morning and see how I feel then

[scamper]

thats fine, get some sleep, we have time still anyway

[Gamma Emerald]

OK Gamma I was going through your games to see if I could find an example of you in elo as town and uh, you post in a lot of topics and do not appear to live to elo that often

Would you mind linking me to some?

I'll try but I can't recall any towngames I was in ELo for except for one that I repped into

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67979
this probably counts actually

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p8638908
it was MeLo but close enough
also I realize that a) these are v old and probably not indicative of my way of play now and b) one link per post isn't the most helpful
pls lmk if I should switch my search direction and/or put the rest in one post

[Gamma Emerald]

actually scratch that last one I thought 4 were alive in the last VC

[Ausuka]

It seems like the answer is that you don't really have any elo games which is like surprising but fine I guess

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm sure I can find them but thanks to my wiki being in massive disrepair I have to use egosearch

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=87498
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=84310
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=83986

these are all the "modern" games I could find where I was in ELo/MeLo as town
I probably end up in ELo as scum substantially more often

[Ausuka]

Ok thanks I will read through those tomorrow morning

[Gamma Emerald]

Ftr I feel like Ausuka has been pretty towny recently, and given the chance scamper + johnny had to just scoop up the hammer, that seems improbable meaning marci is basically assured scum for me

[marcistar]

My issue is that idk I just feel like if Marci is town we lose the game because she never co operates with me in an elo situation and also Marci is like genuinely smart and easy to talk to in most situations and I don't think she actually behaves like this as town

thats where ur wrong bb

i would be nice and angelic if yknow UR SOLVES DIDNT INCLUDE ME