In post 11384, Taly wrote: In post 11290, Rad wrote:Ordered.
Town:
butterflies
Drap
RCE
Town Lean:
Taly
Johnny
Pooky
T-Bone
BB
Mislim Bait
C&G
butterchurn
Null:
CSF
OTH
BBT
Roden
Scum Lean:
Malcolm
Mala
Talk to me about
Mislim Bait/BB
townreads.
Why do you think it's so likely that the masons could be fakeclaiming when there's so many other players to look at?
Regarding
Mislim Bait:
I have a really dumb theory about why Klick dropped that I won't even go over until end game, that's probably influencing me some, but I try not to let it.
Besides my dumb town!klick theory, I think mislim bait's just playing really townie. His entry showed clear signs of reading through ISOs and openly discussing conclusions. We've come to a lot of the same conclusions here and there. He calls people out for appropriate reasons, not just bs reasons that scum like to cling onto. He's just super townie IMO.
Regarding
BB:
I don't hard town read BB. I think I misplaced him above, or rather, I think I should have moved mislim bait up a few, and then BB is probably in the right position there. I think his PR claim is probably just true and too risky as scum. I don't think he's been particularly townie this game tbh, but I also don't know his play style. He's very sit back and judge here. Maybe that's just his play style, I dunno. If BB/PP is more town-leader type in other games, I might read him scum more here because he's just not that at all. But I sort of expect someone with a lot of experience to potentially play the way BB has played here, which makes his play sort of AI, but with the PR claim that seems too ridiculous to be scum. If BB flipped scum I wouldn't be surprised but I also don't have a scum read on him in general. It's like null with a town lean due to "probably just town with that claim."
Regarding the masons
:
It's a mix of Roden's play here and his play in the newbie 2095 game. I think I've mentioned here at least once, if not more, that Roden's only town to me because of the mason claim. Nothing he's done here has read town to me. 2095 pushed that thought even further and anyone who knows that game or reads it now should think the same.
That said, the mason claim is probably just true, and I have a town read on butterchurn's play so far. Also Nancy has a hard meta town read on dwlee and I believe nancy is just town here. So there's lots going for the mason claim just being true.
If I can jump start a town!Roden to play better, great, awesome. Let's fucking go. We're missing out on town!Roden's and town!Mala's best play here if either are town.
If I caught scum!Roden playing it safe with a fake claim, then I hope people who are better than me at this game can come to that conclusion as well. I was considering the masons a potential fake claim before and the 2095 comparison just really spotlighted it for me, and I wanted to share that. Without a mason claim, I vote Roden as scum for sure.
