Open 861: The Turing Test [game over]

[Greeting]

Anyway, I am tired and will continue making reads tomorrow. xo

[furtiveglance]

I have finished catching up with the game.

I am not voting

GuiltyLion

today. His posts struck me as the most towny so far, and it is honestly rare for any mafia to put in so much effort into sorting early in the game. In-depth analysis is usually town-indicative. (242) The entrance post rang as quite genuine too. (26)

I played with

fireisredsir

before. I would write him off as town for tone and intent solely, but I am not as confident of the towniness of this slot as I am of

GuiltyLion

. My gut tells me that when he rolls mafia, he is a deepwolf. His playing style changed since our last game together too, he's far more laid-back and chill. My experience with him, however, does confirm that he is player who really likes making reads over meta. He mentioned this in this game (86), which is a plus for honesty and self-awareness. I don't think this is a good candidate for a Day 1 elimination either.

Dannflor

seems towny, but for some reason absolutely none of his posts stayed in my mind while reading the thread, and I re-discovered them only by looking at the playerlist. His scumreads seem reasonable and justified (but not sure if they're right). So yeah, he can stay, I guess.
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(people to potentially vote out today, and that also includes anyone I haven't mentioned in this post and who is in this game)

furtiveglance

seems much less serious about this game than he was in Newbie 2095. Still, I remember him getting more heavily invested as Day 1 was coming to an end and I pushed him off the hill. But yeah, re-reading his posts so far, I cannot townclear him so far in any way.

I am not sure why

Roden

is a leading wagon considering he has barely said anything. If it's a pressure wagon then fine. But he hasn't said much.

I don't like

Radical Rat

in this game at all. The coded messages are a nice touch and fit into the theme, but it's also a way for a mafia to hide under the spotlight and get written off as witty town. Make no mistake, this a potential deepwolf.

Vivax

seems less witty than usual.

VOTE: Radical Rat

Witty = town then apparently.

[Dannflor]

I don't like that vote on Radical Rat

Can you elaborate more on how Rat seems to be "hiding under the spotlight?" I don't understand why your vote is there over anywhere else

[Loki Dokie]

Are you the other dog avatar. Because you’re the only player that comes into a game as an alt and immediately claims that they’re obviously the sog avatar when you’re significantly goofier when you’re the dog.

I’m pretty sure I’ve never had a dog avatar.

I think I had an animated seahorse once.

[Dannflor]

and like there are pre-established wagons on all of furtive / roden / vivax who are in your "potential votes" category

which is both awfully convenient and also makes it weirder that you would choose a vanity wagon without much of a case over one of them

[Loki Dokie]

Furtive not being serious means idk what because he was plenty serious in Chromavalon. Being lighthearted is probably a good thing since scum are less likely to be.

[Greeting]

Witty = town then apparently.

Depends on the player. Some are naturally witty when town, and being scum causes them to act in weird ways, because they start to take the game more seriously.

I don't like that vote on Radical Rat

Can you elaborate more on how Rat seems to be "hiding under the spotlight?" I don't understand why your vote is there over anywhere else

In my opinion, he has higher scum potential because of his way of posting in this game. While it is aesthetically nice and fits the theme of the game, it can also get him written off as too weird/NAI/witty. Which is why a little pressure there wouldn't hurt.

and like there are pre-established wagons on all of furtive / roden / vivax who are in your "potential votes" category

which is both awfully convenient and also makes it weirder that you would choose a vanity wagon without much of a case over one of them

Why would you have me jump on a pre-existing wagon?

[Greeting]

Furtive not being serious means idk what because he was plenty serious in Chromavalon. Being lighthearted is probably a good thing since scum are less likely to be.

Well, his posting so far didn't really allow me to see the intent behind the posts (and this is the main thing which dictates my reads in mafia games) so I had to base the read off tone and meta. The results were inconclusive. I know that he can make good cases if he wants to, but he hasn't showed this yet. I'm not going to scumread him for it though, because it's still early Day 1 and the leading wagon (

Roden

) made four NAI posts. So nothing important happened yet.

[Bell]

*stares vacantly* Wisdom?
That doesn’t make any sense.
Just tell me. If you’re going to play coy about it.

Well more important question are you a polarized player where you play totally different as one alignment from another?

I feel like I got a tldr: from greeting that could be summed up as kill all lurkers.
Sure. Yeah. Okay.

[Bell]

*stares off into t he universe*
I need more from everybody with less posts than me.
Even if it’s just about the people who have more posts than me.

I guess Loki is Nancy. Instantly announcing your alt at the beginning of the game seems like something she’d do.
Maybe?

I didn’t realize the players picked have to stop posting during the arena style portion.
What kind of Turing test bullshit is this. Live chat, not email plz. @datisi. Change rules mid game thanks.

[fireisredsir]

i think it was done that way to avoid the 1v1 pain

[fireisredsir]

by changing it to a probabilistic argument you're retconning your post a bit ("if ari doesn't talk about reads, she is

more likely to be scum

" is a different statement - that isn't what you said in 44) and I still think you're making a logic error - just because someone doesn't do a thing that you think would make them scum or more likely to be scum, does not mean they are less likely to be scum!

i think you should probably be able to figure out that "congrats you're town" was not meant to be taken at face value

and im still pretty sure im right on the logic point but thats ok its not important

[fireisredsir]

now I'm worried that mafia could create a mafia UTR quite easily since there are 5 of them, and am slightly paranoid that's happening here.

i think the person still has to be towny for this to work, no? its not like 4 mafia being all "hey guys this person is super towny" will make everyone else agree. so i don't think this is really something to be especially worried about. if anything you can worry about how we're not very likely to get a d1 elimination on scum. scum definitely have a lot of control over that

[fireisredsir]

i think furtive can be town for being funny

he wasn't very funny as scum

maybe more that he seems relaxed here

[Bell]

i think it was done that way to avoid the 1v1 pain

I don’t have that experience with furtive. They seemed pretty intense with occasional bouts of emotional exclamations as town.
They missed all of my jokes.

[Bell]

I feel like Roden gets wagoned every D1.

[Aristeia]

do you think he's scum ?

[Bell]

I’m town, I don’t know who the scum are.
Hope this helps.

[Aristeia]

ok but you have thoughts yes?

[Bell]

ok but you have thoughts yes?

Absolutely not.

[Bell]

They have four posts. My only thought is “does Roden actually exist? Does anyone?”
The only people worth looking at for AI stuff are the active ones but the only actives one are the ones I don’t want to lim. So it’s a conundrum.

[Aristeia]

do you believe his inactivity is AI?

[Bell]

Hah, AI, gottem.

[Bell]

do you believe his inactivity is AI?

I can’t read Roden even when they do post.
So.

[Bell]

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