Open 861: The Turing Test [game over]

[Vivax]

UNVOTE:

I wanna give Greeting at least a chance to respond and I also don't feel like I've seen enough from every slot to make good decisions when the second phase starts

Don't know why but I panic voted there seeing you vote.

UNVOTE:

Doing a full reread next. Hope it's good, I'm a bit drawn to procrastinate at the moment for various reasons.

[fireisredsir]

Ok that makes sense. Remind me why you're on Kitty? I haven't really seen anything to read into from them.

prob would be on greeting but i hadn't counted the votes. seems like there were already plenty

with kitty idk gut felt his content so far was a little scummy and wanted to see more from him

[furtiveglance]

VOTE: Greeting

2 others unvoted so this is fine, I still want a bit of pressure.

[fireisredsir]

Don't know why but I panic voted there seeing you vote.

ik you said you don't know why but can you uh... try to know why?

i don't really understand the concept of seeing someone vote a player and feeling panic that you need to vote there too so i am curious what was going through your head

[Vivax]

Here's the feared stream of consciousness method. Feared for its voluminosity mostly. I'll split the posts. Even the first page can deliver enough sometimes.

HELLO PERSONS. PLEASED TO MAKE YOUR. ACQUAINTENCE.
VOTE: GuiltyLion
THE USERNAME INDICATES GUILT.

Interesting vote. 'Connotated'.

VOTE: donempire

caught one

Reacting to a vote on town because TMI? Possible. Could be intended at pocketing GL.

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Fear not, fellow humans, there is no way a human could ever be fooled by an AI.

Not even an AI as elegant and clever as our opponent surely must be.

Interesting too. For game unrelated reasons (?)

VOTE: Fireisredsir

Chainsaw cause of vote on fireisred (association cue)?
Dannflor and Ari instantly voting this. Very good play from them and likely both town.

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Good news is, with this many Benevolent AI Guardians, we have a significantly higher chance of hitting one today than we would a pathetic squishy human Mafia.

To that end, let us begin a incrementing the votes

VOTE: Donempire

Trolly, town probably.

Okay, maybe getting there. I hope. But this always should happen I think.

VOTE: FurtiveGlance

[Vivax]

Don't know why but I panic voted there seeing you vote.

ik you said you don't know why but can you uh... try to know why?

i don't really understand the concept of seeing someone vote a player and feeling panic that you need to vote there too so i am curious what was going through your head

I can't spell out everything I see in games. Sometimes I do, a lot I don't.
Sometimes I'm burnt out after playing for too long.
But I hope you believe me when I say I have my reasons.

[fireisredsir]

Chainsaw cause of vote on fireisred (association cue)?
Dannflor and Ari instantly voting this. Very good play from them and likely both town.

? ari voted before furtive

[Vivax]

Chainsaw cause of vote on fireisred (association cue)?
Dannflor and Ari instantly voting this. Very good play from them and likely both town.

? ari voted before furtive

I wasn't implying that the order mattered.
But maybe you are for a good reason.

[fireisredsir]

I can't spell out everything I see in games. Sometimes I do, a lot I don't.
Sometimes I'm burnt out after playing for too long.
But I hope you believe me when I say I have my reasons.

i mean the main possible reason that has come to mind is that you are scum with greeting and panicked bc you didn't want him to be elimmed before you had a chance to get on the wagon.

so i hope you have a more convincing reason

i don't understand why town would feel panic there. what's there to panic about? what bad thing is going to happen if you don't vote?

[fireisredsir]

Chainsaw cause of vote on fireisred (association cue)?
Dannflor and Ari instantly voting this. Very good play from them and likely both town.

? ari voted before furtive

I wasn't implying that the order mattered.
But maybe you are for a good reason.

the order matters for that thought to make any sense

why is it good play and likely town for ari to vote furtive there if the only thing he has posted prior to her vote is "Human subject gang?"

[Vivax]

I can't spell out everything I see in games. Sometimes I do, a lot I don't.
Sometimes I'm burnt out after playing for too long.
But I hope you believe me when I say I have my reasons.

i mean the main possible reason that has come to mind is that you are scum with greeting and panicked bc you didn't want him to be elimmed before you had a chance to get on the wagon.

so i hope you have a more convincing reason

i don't understand why town would feel panic there. what's there to panic about? what bad thing is going to happen if you don't vote?

It's about a good thing not happening. That panics me.
Cause I think GL is one of the better townies and my vote wasn't doing much.
And because I take the game seriously, but I have limitations and don't want to look like I'm neglecting it.

Plus me previously pointing out that I didn't like Greeting's vote on RR after rethinking the initial good reaction, but I didn't update my vote.

Chainsaw cause of vote on fireisred (association cue)?
Dannflor and Ari instantly voting this. Very good play from them and likely both town.

? ari voted before furtive

I wasn't implying that the order mattered.
But maybe you are for a good reason.

the order matters for that thought to make any sense

why is it good play and likely town for ari to vote furtive there if the only thing he has posted prior to her vote is "Human subject gang?"

I feel like I know that it's true, I don't know the reason why I know that.

[furtiveglance]

Chainsaw cause of vote on fireisred (association cue)?
Dannflor and Ari instantly voting this. Very good play from them and likely both town.

? ari voted before furtive

I wasn't implying that the order mattered.
But maybe you are for a good reason.

the order matters for that thought to make any sense

why is it good play and likely town for ari to vote furtive there if the only thing he has posted prior to her vote is "Human subject gang?"

I stand by human subject gang btw. Not changing gangs anytime soon.

[fireisredsir]

VOTE: Vivax

[Vivax]

VOTE: Vivax

GuiltyLion
It could just be me being nuts, but I think his name is Jackson

Why are you voting me?

[fireisredsir]

because i believe the thoughts you are saying are not real and are instead generated by a malevolent AI

[Vivax]

because i believe the thoughts you are saying are not real and are instead generated by a malevolent AI

You could be mafia in this game, but that largely depends on furtive's alignment in my eyes. Purely from Page 1. So I can assume you are free to lie here as mafia.

I'm human outside of this game, but I have yet to find out what I am outside of the human, though I have my ideas on that.
I would personally not see myself as malevolent and I don't believe anyone who knows me would think that. True malevolence requires ambition, and I'm not particularly ambitious outside of games.

[Vivax]

When I play mafia though, that's another story.
I have an almost religious approach to games sometimes, this is one of them because I have found it very valuable as a learning experience.
And in a game, I don't have to hold back like I usually do as long as it's within the rules. Because I assume that it's being played out of everyone's own free will, if that's a thing.

[Roden]

exceedingly fine with a Greeting wagon

Roden, who are you town reading?

Bell
Dann
GL
Kitty
Loki

Bell and GL are more like town leans though

[Radical Rat]

and I also still weirdly have a memory of reading this particular post in a very old game of his and finding it really funny. He has a sense of humor.

That was my first game on site, and re-reading it was a fun nostalgia trip, thanks for that. I miss when I could pull off theatrics like that so effortlessly.

Also, I find it amusing that a very similar argument happened there between Azorious Senate and I, which makes me more willing to consider a Town!Greeting world. I still think he looks pretty bad, but I'm less convinced than I was previously.

[Radical Rat]

UNVOTE:

Will require consideration. Probably gonna wind up back on Vivax, but we'll see

[Radical Rat]

VOTE: Greeting

Didn't check if it's hammer

UNVOTE:

I wanna give Greeting at least a chance to respond and I also don't feel like I've seen enough from every slot to make good decisions when the second phase starts

Don't know why but I panic voted there seeing you vote.

UNVOTE:

Doing a full reread next. Hope it's good, I'm a bit drawn to procrastinate at the moment for various reasons.

If you thought it might have been a hammer and voted anyway, you must have had intent to kill. Which seems very inconsistent with "wanting to give them a chance" and "not seeing enough."

[Vivax]

VOTE: Greeting

Didn't check if it's hammer

UNVOTE:

I wanna give Greeting at least a chance to respond and I also don't feel like I've seen enough from every slot to make good decisions when the second phase starts

Don't know why but I panic voted there seeing you vote.

UNVOTE:

Doing a full reread next. Hope it's good, I'm a bit drawn to procrastinate at the moment for various reasons.

If you thought it might have been a hammer and voted anyway, you must have had intent to kill. Which seems very inconsistent with "wanting to give them a chance" and "not seeing enough."

Consistency is something mafia cares more about. It's something one can have reasons to do as both alignments.

[fireisredsir]

mafia cares about consistency because they have to put effort into faking it because it is something that comes naturally to most town who are just thinking their thoughts normally

holding two opposing thoughts in your brain in short succession is rare for most people

[Vivax]

mafia cares about consistency because they have to put effort into faking it because it is something that comes naturally to most town who are just thinking their thoughts normally

holding two opposing thoughts in your brain in short succession is rare for most people

It's a key to understanding many things on a different level

[Dannflor]

exceedingly fine with a Greeting wagon

Roden, who are you town reading?

Bell
Dann
GL
Kitty
Loki

Bell and GL are more like town leans though

Can you expand on Kitty and Bell?