Open 861: The Turing Test [game over]

[Vivax]

idk what the optimal way to play it is but i just know that town!you would be thinking about it

wouldn't scum!Ari be thinking about how town!Ari would play and how town!Ari would think about it? I don't think this is a town indicative thing

shhhh im letting her pocket me

i think its slightly town indicative. i don't think that ari's main priority as scum is to match how she'd play as town, and i don't think most people would really would have that reaction or that she would expect them to. so if it was performative it was a very directed performance

Your pocket joke there leads me to Ari mafia tbh.

[Vivax]

Spoiler:

We are currently in rvs so nothing is pinging me as awkward or stiff in an uncomfortable mafia way yet.

How do I share photos

Furtive glance and anyone else,

Want to share your old games so I can get a feel of how you play as either alignments

:curtain:

idk what the optimal way to play it is but i just know that town!you would be thinking about it

wouldn't scum!Ari be thinking about how town!Ari would play and how town!Ari would think about it? I don't think this is a town indicative thing

shhhh im letting her pocket me

i think its slightly town indicative. i don't think that ari's main priority as scum is to match how she'd play as town, and i don't think most people would really would have that reaction or that she would expect them to. so if it was performative it was a very directed performance

Why are you trying to pocket her

they seem to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek

but the random town reads from Aristeia make me uneasy, especially in this setup

this sounds like a post made by someone who feels obligated to start posting real content but doesn't really have much to say yet

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Do you believe this is due to AI programming, or a simple human instinct?

Is this going to be a game long gimmick

I'm going to be honest none of these posts or the bolded questions inside of them really feel like genuine thoughts to me. Or rather, they are very surface level questions pushed out so that you have something to say

I'm not really getting the sense you actually want the answers to any of these questions nor that you hope some productivity will spark out of them. I might be being unfair if this is a strategy you've relied on in the past but the first one especially pings me because it strikes me as highly unlikely that anyone would be able to get reasonable value out of trawling through past games of a bunch of players they are unfamiliar with

as the very first step

to getting to know them. It seems like a way to seem productive but actually avoid having to prod people about this game. Instead it would seem more natural to me if you were prodding people about this game.

granted, you are doing that too... sorta. but "how to post photos" and the "is this going to be a game long gimmick" are both questions that like don't really require an answer, or I'm not sure what value you're hoping to gain by posting them in thread

i also find the part of the fireisred's post that you latched onto like the least interesting part because it seems clearly jokey

Yes we are in RVS and you claim nothing has been pinging you as off - but that means I expect your following questions to be trying to prod people that you think are off or just trying to get people out of their comfort zone, but I feel like I'm seeing more just posts to fill space

pedit:

it is very possible your playstyle is more fluffy here and I am misreading you based off that. how would you describe how you're trying to play this early game?

Probably one of the posts you could successfully deduce Dannflor was mafia from. When you project so much rationality into an emotional and posty player like Kuti, you probably have bad intentions while floofing up an ineffective way of looking at an alignment.
That tone though, impressive.

[Vivax]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

[fireisredsir]

Fireisred is peculiar.

thanks u too

[Datisi]

vote count 1.06

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).

yeet

Greeting [3]:

Loki Dokie, Dannflor, furtiveglance

furtiveglance [3]:

Roden, Greeting, Vivax

KittyTacky [1]:

Bell

Roden [1]:

Aristeia

Vivax [1]:

fireisredsir

not voting [4]:

KittyTacky, kutiplz, GuiltyLion, Radical Rat

mod notes

~ this is a mod note.

[Vivax]

0 good wagons welp

VOTE: Aristeia

Best of the three to vote first
You‘ll maybe see why

[furtiveglance]

The three votes on me are all OMGUS. Seems about right.

[furtiveglance]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

The first two I kinda get, don't really agree with Dannflor. I don't know where you got Loki being mafia from. They seem very town, their entire gameview is based on mafia trying to get them out. I don't think scum would play like that nor have I ever seen it.

[Vivax]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

The first two I kinda get, don't really agree with Dannflor. I don't know where you got Loki being mafia from. They seem very town, their entire gameview is based on mafia trying to get them out. I don't think scum would play like that nor have I ever seen it.

Hey there.
You never get tired of pulling off that fake shit?

[furtiveglance]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

The first two I kinda get, don't really agree with Dannflor. I don't know where you got Loki being mafia from. They seem very town, their entire gameview is based on mafia trying to get them out. I don't think scum would play like that nor have I ever seen it.

Hey there.
You never get tired of pulling off that fake shit?

Never.

I love doing fake shit, like calling someone town and then calling them fake 2 posts later.

[Vivax]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

The first two I kinda get, don't really agree with Dannflor. I don't know where you got Loki being mafia from. They seem very town, their entire gameview is based on mafia trying to get them out. I don't think scum would play like that nor have I ever seen it.

Hey there.
You never get tired of pulling off that fake shit?

Never.

I love doing fake shit, like calling someone town and then calling them fake 2 posts later.

Good, that makes one of us

[Bell]

I want to vote Fire.

[Bell]

I can't put my finger on it. It just feels like they're borderline providing wrong opinions that are only wrong when you think abut them.

[furtiveglance]

I want to vote Fire.

Vote Fire then. Free country.

[Aristeia]

I think KittyTacky is a better vote tbh Bell

VOTE: Kitty

[Loki Dokie]

exceedingly fine with a Greeting wagon

Roden, who are you town reading?

Bell
Dann
GL
Kitty
Loki

Bell and GL are more like town leans though

Roden is very likely town for this. While people who have reads that are diametrically opposed to mine can of course also be too, I tend to tr players who are mindmelding with me in general.

[Radical Rat]

I can't put my finger on it. It just feels like they're borderline providing wrong opinions that are only wrong when you think abut them.

Do you have examples?

[Loki Dokie]

mafia cares about consistency because they have to put effort into faking it because it is something that comes naturally to most town who are just thinking their thoughts normally

holding two opposing thoughts in your brain in short succession is rare for most people

That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re good at it though. That’s how I eventually realized sheep was scum in Forrest Fire. His progression on pretty much anything made 0 sense.

@Greeting can yoiu link a town game of his where you had a similar type of opening as in this game for me please?

Because when I saw that opening, I was struck by in my brief metadive I couldn’t find any towngames with you making a similar kind of entrance but it’s possible you have and I somehow missed it?

[Loki Dokie]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

Extremely incomplete.

[Loki Dokie]

Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.

Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.

Fireisred is peculiar.

The first two I kinda get, don't really agree with Dannflor. I don't know where you got Loki being mafia from. They seem very town, their entire gameview is based on mafia trying to get them out. I don't think scum would play like that nor have I ever seen it.

Hey there.
You never get tired of pulling off that fake shit?

Are we reading the same game?

[Aristeia]

Loki help me vote Kitty pls it will be fun

[Loki Dokie]

Loki help me vote Kitty pls it will be fun

No thanks, I prefer to keep my vote on a player whom I think has a much > rand chance of flipping scum not on one who is very likely to flip town.

[Aristeia]

Loki Dokie

, you are creating artificial and unnecessary pressure for a

Roden

wagon. It's true that his ISO isn't very towny, but this is not obvscum. If you're town, then take a step back and let him explain himself.

I have a hard time believing Greeting posts this if Roden is town and Greeting is scum. It doesn't feel white-knighty in the least

[KittyTacky]

I don't understand the Roden wagon. He's got three posts, and none of them strike me as particularly scummy.

Yeah same. Roden is very null to me.

I don't understand how you can sus the loki voters and also be null on roden

this feels like a contradiction to me.

I'm not heavily scumreading the Loki voters. And explain how is it a contradiction?

like um

which loki voters are you exactly sussing?

The ones who actually gave content so far. I can't read someone who made so few posts at all regardless of if they made a naked vote or not.

[KittyTacky]

hmm ok there's 4 other scum we can wagon a different one

VOTE: KittyTacky

Elaborate.