LOST (Game Over)

[Rad]

Rad you are so genuine if you're scum here I'll never trust you again.

All good, I have that same feeling about Nancy

[Save The Dragons]

Flavor

Vote Count 5.3

5 MalcolmTucker (BlueBloodedToffee, Mislim Bait, Cytosine and Guanine)
5 Malakittens (Malakittens, Best Bird, Rad, butterchurn, ProfessorDrapion, butterflies)

2 Rad (MalcolmTucker, PookyTheMagicalBear)
2 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever, Off the Hook)

1 Cat Scratch Fever (JohnnyFarrar)
1 Best Bird (Roden)
1 ProfessorDrapion (T-Bone)

Not Voting (Taly, RCEnigma)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-08-13 19:28:13)

Mod Notes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mala is town i think

You haven't read the past 30 pages

minor details

[Save The Dragons]

prodding Taly

[Rad]

Further, drap targets bb and doc on drap. Mafia has to kill bb to prevent this plan which they probably won't want to do because bb is fairly hard to read here if town. If bb doesn't target me drap knows it. If drap is scum and claims town!bb doesn't visit bb dies followed by drap. If drap dies at night there is no doc.

[Rad]

Plan fails completely if bb and drap are both scum, or if bb is scum with that pr.

[JohnnyFarrar]

2 JohnnyFarrar (Cat Scratch Fever, Off the Hook)

Lol didn't even realize my top 2 scumreads were voting me. I'm open to reevaluation

[Rad]

If bb is town, plan fails if mafia targets him, but that's ok because you now have me and bb to look at associations, town!bb is probably mislimable so that's a waste for scum, mala and oth can claim their reads on me which I think you make mala claim first, and no one has to worry about all the nonsense pointing to scum!rad anymore.

[Rad]

Plan in full:

I agree role is nai but it's possible here that mala isn't even coroner because she's targeted only previously outted town and scum. So she would have to guess from the entire pool of possible roles to confirm she's even coroner in the scenario where she's lying.

Ok how about this. I know bb would probably prefer to talk to Luke or someone else, and I don't think I'm hugely useful for my reads, but if bb agrees, you guys can flip me. I flip green. Only I know what my role is right now. I'll tell bb when he targets me tonight. Oth and mala also target me tonight. They get to both claim my role and bb can confirm.

This is assuming oth doesn't have a role where the mod announces the result. I can't remember if that's the case with oth's outted role.

Further, drap targets bb and doc on drap. Mafia has to kill bb to prevent this plan which they probably won't want to do because bb is fairly hard to read here if town. If bb doesn't target me drap knows it. If drap is scum and claims town!bb doesn't visit bb dies followed by drap. If drap dies at night there is no doc.

Plan fails completely if bb and drap are both scum, or if bb is scum with that pr.

If bb is town, plan fails if mafia targets him, but that's ok because you now have me and bb to look at associations, town!bb is probably mislimable so that's a waste for scum, mala and oth can claim their reads on me which I think you make mala claim first, and no one has to worry about all the nonsense pointing to scum!rad anymore.

Town should decide if this is a good plan. If not, ok, but let's get a flip. I'm up for Mala and Malcolm, or we can go with my plan above and flip me if everyone agrees to it. Or you can just conclude I'm scum and flip me without a plan. I don't think there are any other viable wagons today given the current game state.

[T-Bone]

Vote: Drapion

I’m extremely glad you don’t have a gladiate

Maybe I do you don't know

[T-Bone]

Stop making plans if Drapion is town he needs to do his own thing lol

[T-Bone]

VOTE: Mislim Bait

[Off The Hook]

This is assuming oth doesn't have a role where the mod announces the result. I can't remember if that's the case with oth's outted role.

"one shot public corner" is my role

do you know what public means :rosejudge:

[Malakittens]

Apparently he does bc he is coroner-god

[butterchurn]

mala is town i think

Do you have thoughts on who is scum beyond Rad? I'm not as confident on Rad being scum anymore.

[Rad]

This is assuming oth doesn't have a role where the mod announces the result. I can't remember if that's the case with oth's outted role.

"one shot public corner" is my role

do you know what public means :rosejudge:

From the wiki: "Sometimes a Coroner will even automatically cause the truth about any dead player to be publicly revealed, functioning as a sort of Enabler for flips" - do you know if it's this version? Like 1 shot, reveal everyone? Or is it 1 shot, reveal target?

Also can you use it only at night or can you trigger it during the day? I guess it would say "Day Coroner" according to wiki but just verifying.

[Rad]

Apparently he does bc he is coroner-god

So salty.

[Rad]

Stop making plans if Drapion is town he needs to do his own thing lol

He can disagree here if he wants. Hell everyone in the game can agree and he can disagree and that's that. I think my plan is mechanically sound but everyone's gotta agree to it.

[Rad]

Actually if OTH's skill is night only, I guess the plan is just off since it's public.

[Malakittens]

Apparently he does bc he is coroner-god

So salty.

You have angered me.

So you’re gonna see it for the rest of the game now.

[Rad]

Apparently he does bc he is coroner-god

So salty.

You have angered me.

So you’re gonna see it for the rest of the game now.

If that triggers town!Mala to play the game, awesome! Find scum and prove me wrong.

Otherwise scum!Mala can just whine at/about me all she wants. I really don't care lol

[butterflies]

I’m to be insufferable all game. all fucking game..

I mean at least I can talk to the dead.

VOTE: dancingpuppets

Do scum really soft their role this early?

I don't think so.

I feel like Mala very much has their own unique playing style a lot of the time, I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not entirely convinced by the scumcase here. I feel like there's a risk Mala becomes a sort of easy elimination by default here. But maybe I'm just too tunnelled on Rad to see it - certainly if Mala does come back scum it gives us lots of useful info.

Talk me through your Rad tunnel then? Cause I'm not seeing it. The catchup tl;dr had a lot of information, nobody challenged it and it reminded someone of something. everything I'm seeing here since my arrival is good, honestly.

-butterflea

Just that I believe Rad is scum - I'm aware I've been on this path for a lot of the game though (albeit with some wavering around D3 if I remember correctly). Mala coming back scum would confirm Rad is town right enough, and I'm aware I could be in the wrong.

So its a habit, with nothing substancial to it?

-Butterflea

[butterflies]

Sorry I’m just in a foul mood

And this stupid bull shut if

she must be scum because she’s playing differently when I am trying to change my meta because I’m sick of my scum and my town play being day and night so yes maybe I’m trying to make my town Meta similar to my scum meta because I’m just sick of being transparent scum

Why would you try to emulate your scum meta here?

And if you’re town here, why would this even be a pressing concern for you in THIS game?

~NF

VOTE: Mala

This specific AtE about her being sick of being “transparent scum” makes very little sense to me, if she’s actually town here.

~N

Seconded.
-ButterFlea

[butterflies]

I haven't read any of the last 30 pages but just based on this page I think Mala is like locktown

Mala said she’s trying to replicate her scumgame as town because she’s tired of being “transparent scum” in a game where she’s town. makes sense to you, how?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why are people scumreading mala again