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[Vivax]

I dunno, but once all the claims come out you come outbwith your extra bit of info which just so happens to corroborate some of the other claims. I have the fear....

I have lots of fear right now

How's that? Want to claim doctor?

[Datisi]

replacing Firebringer.

[Greeting]

I dunno, but once all the claims come out you come outbwith your extra bit of info which just so happens to corroborate some of the other claims. I have the fear....

I have lots of fear right now

Let's look at this logically. Most mafia power roles are useless if there is no town power roles. Three town PRs are dead, fourth one already claimed and their role has been fully used. Even if we assume that

Mala

's role claim is not truthful, how many useful roles can there be left? We are on Day 4, many of them are bound to already have been used up anyway.

I can agree to a compromise to claim on Day 5, like I said before. But I think we will need to do a massclaim then, because the game is dying, the arguments keep running in circles and town, as a whole, has no clear direction on where to go next.

[Greeting]

So we doin this or what?

Assume that we are. Pick the order.

[Lowell]

Here’s the order. Apologies if I missed a claim or two.

Unsure
Mala
Prince
Crescent
Gera
Enchant
Viv
Fire
Greeting

[Crescent]

Like everything hurts right now but I exist again yay. I haven't read anything but the most recent page and it already gives me plenty to comment on given the thoughts I currently have.

Also yeah the game is dying and looking at that last posted chart.. Yikes. I feel like Greeting has a point though.. Basically all our biggest arguments are played out and the game has a circular feel. There really hasn't any serious new ground to discuss today.

But really the fact of the matter is if Mala is town, the POE we're operating under this game is simply too small, and thus someone who's been brushed aside has to be scum.

I've already brought up it makes it a fair bit more likely Prince was actually a good train yesterday (I don't like the way he started today either, but after that you have maybe Unsure.. And then you have a giant pile of townread people that

must

contain scum.

So basically, if Mala is town, there must be at least one, if not two, scum inside the common core of Fire's replacement, Gera, Greeting, Owen, Vivax, and myself... But, if Mala is scum, Prince is much more likely to be town. The same scenario still applies unless the other two scum are specifically Enchant and Unsure. The game being dead is a nightmare scenario for reasons above, but I'm also not sure how to fix it.

It's also kind of worrying that Greeting and I have been kinda pointing at each other today as probably the closest this game actually has to leadership. I've put Fire, Gera, and Vivax under virtually no scrutiny since day 1. I've been up his ass since early day 2. If he's town, we're basically living in scum's dream scenario.

I still think chances are decent a cop claim is lying, but voting off Mala today kinda feels like a nope. I think Prince is the opposite alignment of Mala and would kinda rather she be resolved before him... Which pretty much leaves only Unsure and that "town core" that probably has at least one scum in it.

But like if Unsure is voted off today and flips town, all hell effectively breaks loose. We wouldn't even be at lylo, but practically everyone in the game is pulled into the POE. Something is grievously wrong with essentially everyone's perception of the game at this point if he's town. It would be

decisive evidence

that our towncore is functionally broken, and may even contain multiple scum.

One thing I will say is even if Owen is scum, is that Lowell is most likely still town, with how much Owen kept trying to kill him. Lowell is highly likely to be town in any scenario.

Basically I feel like there's only two paths to take here.. Take the "safe" voteoff in Unsure, or basically flip over a table and see what shakes out, if anything. The latter is kind of hard when it's so low energy.

Anyway it's almost 1am and that was way more than I actually expected to phone post from bed . If anyone disagrees with my summation of the current gamestate, give me a reason why.

[Unsure]

Like do people really believe I'm scum or are you guys just lazy

[Unsure]

What can I even do to change minds here? Seems like I'm being pushed as "scummiest" but there's really nothing to support that.

[Unsure]

Tell me what's the plan after I'm gone so I can consent to being voted out.

VT btw.

[Prince of Paterson]

Anyway it's almost 1am and that was way more than I actually expected to phone post from bed . If anyone disagrees with my summation of the current gamestate, give me a reason why.

I mostly agree. I do think that Mala is scum, and Enchant probably is too. After the massclaim we can assess who the best elim is. Crescent, Greeting, and Geraint are my strongest townreads now. I doubt UNOwen is scum, and even if he is, Lowell should be town. Fire is probably just town. That leaves Unsure and Vivax.

I'll claim VT now since Mala has already claimed.

[geraintm]

crescent's post feels mostly correct. they do feel town - but like they said they have the Fear that somewhere something doesn't add up and it only takes one scum to slip through into the town pile and we are doomed. my fear is that it is crescent, as i have no idea how to spot them as scum.

i think i have to wait for crescent to claim before i do

[UNOwen]

VT btw.

Hahahaha, no you aren't.

Full claim: I'm a n2 neapolitan, n3 cop. Unsure was my n2 target and he isn't a VT.

[UNOwen]

That's two scum locked down, we can continue the mass claim then try to find the third (might actually just be Prince after all) or just vote off Unsure/Malakittens and leave the solve to whoever is still alive on day 6. I don't mind either way.

[Enchant]

VOTE: UNSURE

[geraintm]

VOTE: unsure

[Greeting]

Omg I knew this was a scum. I’ve been pushing him since forever. Now please hammer

Unsure

.

[Vivax]

Anyway it's almost 1am and that was way more than I actually expected to phone post from bed . If anyone disagrees with my summation of the current gamestate, give me a reason why.

I mostly agree. I do think that Mala is scum, and Enchant probably is too. After the massclaim we can assess who the best elim is. Crescent, Greeting, and Geraint are my strongest townreads now. I doubt UNOwen is scum, and even if he is, Lowell should be town. Fire is probably just town. That leaves Unsure and Vivax.

I'll claim VT now since Mala has already claimed.

Crescent, geraint as strongest townreads?
Lockscum tbh

[Vivax]

Prince that is

[Vivax]

Like everything hurts right now but I exist again yay. I haven't read anything but the most recent page and it already gives me plenty to comment on given the thoughts I currently have.

Also yeah the game is dying and looking at that last posted chart.. Yikes. I feel like Greeting has a point though.. Basically all our biggest arguments are played out and the game has a circular feel. There really hasn't any serious new ground to discuss today.

But really the fact of the matter is if Mala is town, the POE we're operating under this game is simply too small, and thus someone who's been brushed aside has to be scum.

I've already brought up it makes it a fair bit more likely Prince was actually a good train yesterday (I don't like the way he started today either, but after that you have maybe Unsure.. And then you have a giant pile of townread people that

must

contain scum.

So basically, if Mala is town, there must be at least one, if not two, scum inside the common core of Fire's replacement, Gera, Greeting, Owen, Vivax, and myself... But, if Mala is scum, Prince is much more likely to be town. The same scenario still applies unless the other two scum are specifically Enchant and Unsure. The game being dead is a nightmare scenario for reasons above, but I'm also not sure how to fix it.

It's also kind of worrying that Greeting and I have been kinda pointing at each other today as probably the closest this game actually has to leadership. I've put Fire, Gera, and Vivax under virtually no scrutiny since day 1. I've been up his ass since early day 2. If he's town, we're basically living in scum's dream scenario.

I still think chances are decent a cop claim is lying, but voting off Mala today kinda feels like a nope. I think Prince is the opposite alignment of Mala and would kinda rather she be resolved before him... Which pretty much leaves only Unsure and that "town core" that probably has at least one scum in it.

But like if Unsure is voted off today and flips town, all hell effectively breaks loose. We wouldn't even be at lylo, but practically everyone in the game is pulled into the POE. Something is grievously wrong with essentially everyone's perception of the game at this point if he's town. It would be

decisive evidence

that our towncore is functionally broken, and may even contain multiple scum.

One thing I will say is even if Owen is scum, is that Lowell is most likely still town, with how much Owen kept trying to kill him. Lowell is highly likely to be town in any scenario.

Basically I feel like there's only two paths to take here.. Take the "safe" voteoff in Unsure, or basically flip over a table and see what shakes out, if anything. The latter is kind of hard when it's so low energy.

Anyway it's almost 1am and that was way more than I actually expected to phone post from bed . If anyone disagrees with my summation of the current gamestate, give me a reason why.

Here's another mofia

Tempting to say 'just for the formatting'

[Vivax]

And gera as third atm, but I can bother about that after the other two. If this game ever launches them, which is very doubtful.

I claim VT

[Unsure]

STOP. Im a D6 Miller.

[Unsure]

I didnt want to eat the NK because scum is focused on doing killing roles and thats why im focused on staying alive

[Unsure]

VOTE: Unsure

Oh fuck my vote tripped

[Greeting]

STOP. Im a D6 Miller.

Don't believe this claim. Not only did he already claim VT and get

exposed

for lying in 2386, the probability of such a role existing in this game, or any game for that matter is minuscule.

Don't let him get away. I am sussing everyone who is unwilling to vote

Unsure

now.

[Vivax]

If you simp (metaphorically) for mafia in a game I‘m in a crocodile will pull you into the toilet next time you sit on it
or maybe you will get lightningstruck