LOST (Game Over)

[butterflies]

I <3 CSF’s posts.

So what’s the argument for BBT? He thought Dunn was a mason? I think he softed vig but him pushing me for being hesitant on Bella was whack.

[butterflies]

Scum obviously have some sort of strongman then.

BBT, why is there no paranoia of a Bella fake claim here?

Then check this out T-Bone

I'd vote BBT

BBT and I were both town in C9++, and we literally saw a scum fakeclaim doctor - this was around the same time Bella claimed doc. In C9++, BBT was less hesitant to doubt Enchant's doctor claim, and ultimately even voted Enchant.

Spoiler: Posts from C9++

Subject: Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

Aw my pagetop.

I am Doctor.

Subject: Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

VOTE: Enchant

Hoping to wake up to a hammer.

Subject: Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

Enchant has been eliminated. They were a

Mafia Roleblocker

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It is now Night 1. The night deadline is in (expired on 2022-07-25 21:12:56).

The night can end early if all living players agree.

This is pretty compelling.

I could definitely see scum gambiting with out of two strongly sr players, the survivor would get towncred from the flip.

~Nancyfly

[butterflies]

VOTE: bbt

I actually read some of ktane as it was happening, not enough to follow all the bomb stuff, enough to grab some town reads.

UNVOTE:

Scum do this kind of thing a lot to distance but not actually put their buddy in danger, so Bella’s interactions with BBT aren’t clearing.

[butterflies]

I’m kind of getting buddy interactions with Corwin. Corwin engaged with BBT problem more than he did Frogs but on a very friendly way’

[butterflies]

Corwin, talk more about your read on me? In our newbie, you said you came into the game with a lean scum read on me before you replaced in.

Given that, why are you suddenly so paranoid about trying to read me?

I'm down for a Toad wagon as well. Haven't seen much from them in the 20 pages I've read but enough to vote.

Nobody interested in Penguin?

Bleh. You could have link our T/T game where I nuked you immediately because I was paranoid you were manipulating me so they've got context. I'd rather just forget that game happened.

@Raad https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89555

I don't know why everyone thinks I'm paranoid of you here. I think you're hard to read, and

you'll do a lot of scummy shit as town so you can get away with scummy shit as scum

. As I said in one of my last posts, I'm pretty null on you... I'm pretty null on most people until there are elims and actual information unless there's a good reason not to be, then I'll go look at votes, interactions, associations. Right now you're just another player, who I'd rather not nuke D1 out of kindness and fun potential.

Looks like potentially setting up BBT to not be sr.

[butterflies]

9 Cephrir (ProfessorDrapion, JohnnyFarrar, Taly, Off the Hook, T-Bone, Lukewarm, PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dancing Puppets)
8 Taly (Dunnstral, Cephrir, Frogsterking, Klick, MalcolmTucker, RCEnigma, Roden, Bell)

What 180 on Taly?

I thought you flipped your read on them, if I misunderstood you, please feel free to correct me on that.

I have no read

My top theory is she is scum but that’s a theory

back it up with a vote im tired of this fencesitting

I am fine fencesitting tyvm

Stating the obvious that Taly is never SvS with Math.

[butterflies]

Re-IS0’d BBT and his progression on my slot feels fake considering how he interacted with me pre-Bella flip.

VOTE: BBT

[BlueBloodedToffee]

How many votes is that?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Just the 4 at the moment?

Light work. Keep going guys, you can do it.

Been trying to mislim me from Day One. It's not happening.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

BBT is a great counter wagon to just about anyone. If you see a wagon gaining momentum and you want to stop it, just vote for BBT. BOOM instant competing 3-6 person BBT wagon!

Still relevant I guess.

[MalcolmTucker]

I still think BBT is town and despite my read on Rad the above is a good point. Drap is obviously town and genuinely scumreads the slot in a way we can't necessarily say others do but it's not a great wagon.

[MalcolmTucker]

BBT is a great counter wagon to just about anyone. If you see a wagon gaining momentum and you want to stop it, just vote for BBT. BOOM instant competing 3-6 person BBT wagon!

Still relevant I guess.

Out of interest here though, who do you specifically think is running you up with scum motives in mind, and who is it to stop from being eliminated? Drap isn't scum, Butterflies is incredibly unlikely to be scum, do you think it's CSF? Given I'm town and I scumread CSF myself, and given CSF kind of scumreads me, I don't necessarily see the motivation for them to prioritise voting you to stop an elimination on Mala or Johnny, because they don't particularly look partnered with either of those slots, especially Johnny.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I still think Butterflies can be scum, I think CSF could be scum as well but I felt like Bella's read on CSF discounted this a bit.

[Roden]

sure you can - i did

find it interesting he joined me on your wagon though - must have realized he was emotional and not logical

No you're just bussing.

[Best Bird]

strong plan to bus every single one of my scumbuddies!

[RCEnigma]

The more drap argues someone is scum the more town I think that person is ngl.

[RCEnigma]

I feel CSF and Malcolm have decent partner equity.

[T-Bone]

Just the 4 at the moment?

Light work. Keep going guys, you can do it.

Been trying to mislim me from Day One. It's not happening.

It might happen. I’m finding the latest page compelling. You know if I vote they will fall in line.

[T-Bone]

The more drap argues someone is scum the more town I think that person is ngl.

I know, right???????

[Best Bird]

The more drap argues someone is scum the more town I think that person is ngl.

But...he is a GOD...

[RCEnigma]

Flavor

Vote Count 5.5

4 MalcolmTucker (BlueBloodedToffee, Mislim Bait, Cytosine and Guanine, PookyTheMagicalBear)
4 Malakittens (Best Bird, Rad, ProfessorDrapion, MalcolmTucker)
4 JohnnyFarrar (Off the Hook, Cat Scratch Fever, butterchurn, Malakittens)

1 Cat Scratch Fever (JohnnyFarrar)
1 Best Bird (Roden)
1 Mislim Bait (T-Bone)

Not Voting (Taly, RCEnigma, butterflies)

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to yeet.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-08-13 19:28:13)

Mod Notes

Prodding Mislim Bait
Prodding BlueBloodedToffee
Replacing Taly

Also buy that math spews Taly town, Nancy/flea is town, TBone town or paired with Pooky (Pooky can be scum without TBone but doesn’t work vice versa. Roden mason or paired with butter, Johnny town from bellaspew. Fmpov all scum are on wagon.

Going through the VCs CSF/Malcolm stuck out as paired voters pre gladiate. BBT’s day 2 with math coming out of the gate pushing them but bbt not ending up on maths wagon is suspect, then the Bella stuff. I also forgot why I thought bbt was townish today, it’s been a long game already.

Ummm I think CSF/OTH are another pairing I was considering.

Rads positioning with math day 1 and day 2 look good and I think in other wagon seedlings they show up in good company (with town or confirmed town)

There was also a VC that I can’t think of off the top of my head but they one at the height of the mala wagon d1 made me think mala was likely town. I can expand on any of these thoughts in isolation but I don’t want to go in depth on every little thing I thought interesting in one post.

[RCEnigma]

The more drap argues someone is scum the more town I think that person is ngl.

But...he is a GOD...

So I’ve heard.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I’m kind of getting buddy interactions with Corwin. Corwin engaged with BBT problem more than he did Frogs but on a very friendly way’

Thing was.
I’d expect BBT to vote Math when Math pushed them but BBT didn’t.
Like he didn’t want Math to go over

[Best Bird]

I could vote BBT, but I want Mala to confirm she is going to coroner Luke.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Just the 4 at the moment?

Light work. Keep going guys, you can do it.

Been trying to mislim me from Day One. It's not happening.

Executing a wolf isn’t a MisLim.