Nice, so, we bring up something that genuinely frustrates me IRL, but don't wanna talk about it? ok, well, I'm clearly not able to sleep like this, so here we go! I'll walk you through my entire Ali progression, since that seems to be the issue here. and I'll spell out every little thing for you.
In post 293, Fun Times wrote:ok, well, I think Sommus is town, I'm pretty certain Alianna is scum, that ISO is atrocious. like, you start the game off claiming VT - cause you think you're being funny? and then you acknowldge you see a claim but "I don't know what to think of it" then right after BlueBlooded votes Enchant, you vote enchant... and only after no one else joins, you back off. like, why is your reaction to a claim "idk what I think of the claim. OH I MUST VOTE IT!!!" then later claim "lol I was RVS testing Enchant" since when do we ever RVS test pr claims?? like.. idk, nothing about that ISO looks good, looks like others are SRing Alianna, so hey, maybe I'm right!
Nancy can have our vote though, I'm just here to let people know what I think.
-Andante
^ So I picked a name that was just kinda around to go ISO, I did. and I HATED that ISO, like, later, I was trying to think on the "who would start the game claiming VT when there's no VTs" but that thought process wasn't going super far, cause I can honestly see both saying it, the Enchant voting stuff just really didn't seem towny to me, and like the timing of pivoting off of enchant just felt like scum going "ok, this won't go any further, time to go elsewhere" I had these thoughts, and shared them, no one really cared, thus my next post... (explained below)
In post 372, Fun Times wrote: In post 362, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Alianne’s vote on Ausuka was a bit of an overreaction, and the ensuing downplaying of their vote and read was pretty bad, so i’m fine voting there.
That's the only reason you're fine voting there?
-Andante
^ In my next post I even make about Aliana, I question someone's SR there, cause it's for an entirely different reasoning than mine, and it's not at all for anything that I actually SRed, so I was curious and wanted to know more about what norwee was thinking.
In post 374, Fun Times wrote:oh yall don't have much from her? look idk, I just got here, that sounds like something yall can talk to her about, we're a hydra, are we not? there's 2 of us. so 1 can cover for the other. it's as simple as that. I'm just kinda confused on why you're all "I need your other half!!!" like, I'm here, why isn't that good enough?
on another note, idk why but I'm kinda hesitant of this aliana thing, cause Norwee's single reason.. like it's standing out so much... "Oh I'll join the wagon cause of this 1 thing" where it's like, I SR like 5 other things... idk though,
-Andante
^ Like, I even started having doubts, I mean, in hindsight I should've started talking to the other Aliana voters, but hey, I only got to talk to norwee, and I believe around this point is where I kinda just drop the sr, like it's still there, but if no one else is interested, I just go "ok whatever"
In post 398, Fun Times wrote:
WE ARE!!! You're in charge!!! I sheep!!
All is good, cat and dog aren't killing each other, dog wants walk though so..... yeah probably gonna go do that soon before it's 100...
but yeah, overall I don't have a lot of reads here, unsure of where to go, Alliana was my 1 confident SR, BlueBlooded feels a bit odd, like, why are you focussed on where my hydra partner is? When I'm the one who outed the Alliana read, so if you have questions on that you just ask me?
but like overall, half yall are just like purposely trying to be impossible to read? idk what yall are doing, whelp. hopefully I can come up with a reads list in the next 7 days, and I'll be living by that tbh cause yeah... reasons
-Andante
^ The gamestate was just kinda weird, like I was messing around having fun, around this time, no one there was discussing alianna with me (I don't think) I'm giving my raw unfiltered thoughts, like you were more than welcome to have asked me about anything there, I mean now, after a town flip, I really do think BlueBlood's actions that "I was gonna TR on a scumflip" are odd, but hey, not like anyone is gonna want to hear about that. uhhh here I even go "I was confident on alianna, but people elsewhere are grabbing my attention" (so focus was probably just gonna shift)
In post 421, Fun Times wrote:well if we spend the next 8 IRL days on day 1, I'll be useless the rest of the game, and most people seem to just be going "idk it's d1.."
like.. so do we just yeet alliana and move on? or are we sitting here for 8 more days?
-Andante
^No one was actually doing anything even close to "playing the game" I thought it was a 14 day d1, so for 6 days in, I thought waiting around for 8 more days was going to be just completely useless - and hey, no one wanted to point out to me it just started (also, side note, not related to this at all, goldfish was all "no one let me post day 1" well, we had almost 2 full IRL days for day 1... which isn't "no time" so like, you saying "yall didn't let me post" actually makes me feel a little sus of your slot... that's a later thing though)
We had enchant starting d2 here "no one listened to me!!!" however, I will point out, I kept repeating over and over, I was sus of alianna... plenty of opportunities to go "Andante, no."
In post 424, Fun Times wrote:yeah, like it hit e-1 then started dissolving, I'd also just be down to yeet NM and call it a day... maybe. I haven't seen Alliana here since I started calling her maf, frozen scum?
-Andante
^ At this point it was almost 24 hours since my first "I think Alianna is maf" and most people check in at least every 24 hours, so that's where I was starting to actually get sus, I see scum freeze all the time!!
In post 426, Fun Times wrote: In post 263, Alianna wrote: In post 261, froggodoggo wrote:What are our thoughts on claiming this game? I don’t see any particular claim that would make me want to unvote someone, even a N1 cop since if I think they are scum then I can’t trust the check anyways. Should we skip the whole claim after intent thing? I’m not super experienced in this regard so would like to hear opinions on this!!
I think claiming after intent is a good thing. If we wagon a cop with a result, we want to know what that result is before we flip them. Otherwise, claims don't mean much.
If we're talking massclaim, the major upside is that maf are basically locked into their claims and can't get away with as many shenanigans. The downside is that they'd be able to strategize around knowing what everyone is.
mech talk is usually something scum does... and like, basically nothing in this ISO is "I think ..."
-Andante
^ EVERY single game I play, I've seen scum just sit there and talk mech.. like that's all this post was screaming to me... "MECH... SCUM!" cause it's "should we claim? cause this could happen or this" and hey, scum LOVES mech. it's "busywork" that makes them look productive... and I comment on nothing in the ISO being like "here's my reads" so, if we're not giving reads, and talking mech, I'm going to sr it.
^ I vote, and let people know 2 more to lim, so no one accidentally hammers/we're aware of what the numbers are looking like.
In post 430, Fun Times wrote: In post 429, PenguinPower wrote: In post 428, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In post 424, Fun Times wrote:yeah, like it hit e-1 then started dissolving, I'd also just be down to yeet NM and call it a day... maybe. I haven't seen Alliana here since I started calling her maf, frozen scum?
-Andante
Didn’t you call her scum just some hours ago? And you say the could be frozen scum?
She called me frozen scum after 45 seconds so...seems she wants a very rapid response.
HEY HEY!!!
Your case was different!!
I 100% said something yesterday about Alianna being scum, and she still hasn't responded... sus
-Andante
^ 24 hours, no answer.. I try to talk to someone about it, cause I was ignored earlier.
In post 446, Fun Times wrote: In post 443, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Only fair she gets a chance to respond to the wagon, no?
I would think a stranger process is just to yeet her while she isn't here
yeah fun fact, nancy is opposed to limming her before she shows up, but no one is doing anything, and I'm trigger happy soooooo this frozen scum looks great to me!
-Andante
I wanted her to have the chance to show up and defend herself before actually yeeting - well, nancy wanted her to show up, but like I agreed that was the best move
^ And then to show up immediately after we're like "needs to show up before getting yeeted" I thought FOR SURE this was scum in scumchat going "yo, you need to go post" - and this is where I know I became tunneled, because at this point, all signs point to maf, no signs point to town, and yeah.
In post 454, Fun Times wrote: In post 447, Alianna wrote:Hi.
I'm back.
I apologize for having been a village idiot.
What specifically do y'all want me to respond to?
"I missed everything, but I know yall want me to respond to stuff" right... if you know we want a response, you know of at least 1 post, this is literally scum that was told to go post... you can't convince me otherwise
-Andante
Like, here, it just screams that she's been following along, like... the only way you'd know there's "lots to respond to" is you've been following along, but then also, in the ISO, if you look at where Alianna was gon, then returns, each time she came back, she'd quote stuff and give comments. here? she didn't. it was this "I know I'm top lim, how do I fix this" vibe, and like, yeah, I SR that
In post 455, Fun Times wrote:The timing of that pop in too... right as "we're gonna wait for Ali to do stuff before doing anything" like, there is no freaking way that was a coincidence... lmaoooooooo this is too great
-Andante
^ I was CONVINCED we had a maf, explained with above
In post 464, Fun Times wrote:in Ali's ISO it looks like she'd quote stuff to respond to.. when she returned from not being here... that is not the cause here. now she's in panic mode, like "what's up? tell me what I missed!!" like, just read the game from where you left off.. quote the stuff you wanna respond to? like you've been doing....
frozen scum... like, I'll say it again, there's no freaking way ali is town here.
-Andante
and I explained this in 2 above, it's like, at this point in time, my entire mind was just SCREAMING "you are right!! gottem!!!" I mean, idk how else to explain it? like, a typical andante sr? yeah. I mean, if Ali went "I'm overwhelmed" I probably would've tried to ask some easy questions, but she was just there. responding to some things in the moment, clearly not rereading, cause if she really was gone, she'd be reading for what she missed... then yeah she selfed and that was it.
-Andante
p.edit, oooh you did answer me!! well, I'll post this then see what concerns you have, it's way too late for this right now lol