Open 862: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[NorwegianboyEE]

But ready to fight me for whole day about it.

Sure.

That it is mechanically a good lim is undeniable.
The exception being if the slot is not scummy. But the slot hasn’t done anything townie because they are null.

[Enchant]

Ok, weeb.

Sell me on it, because i think it's not worth of risk to kill Nullread (that's it, person you don't even scumread), just for sake of POSSIBILITY to kill maf, or for producing one town who probably doesh't change gamestate much anyway, because is ALREADY likely town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You haven’t really done anything to show why me suggestion is wrong other than loudly complain. Which only makes me curious if you have some ulterior motive in defending the cop claim.

[Enchant]

Because your suggestion is on stock bad.

You achieve nothing by it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok, weeb.

Sell me on it, because i think it's not worth of risk to kill Nullread (that's it, person you don't even scumread), just for sake of POSSIBILITY to kill maf, or for producing one town who probably doesh't change gamestate much anyway, because is ALREADY likely town.

Any elimination is an risk, what is an less risky elimination then? You haven’t given any good alternative so why should anyone listen to you?

[Enchant]

I don't need to provide alternatives to say which elim is bad, and which is good from mech perspective.

If elim is bad, it's bad. That's it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because your suggestion is on stock bad.

You achieve nothing by it.

Anyway i thought their early N1 claim on D2 -> "why you guys didn’t wait for me??" -> nothing was an scummy type of play so strictly speaking i’ve actually been harboring an scumread on the slot this entire time but i was hoping they would be scummy!active instead so i could build an better case. But circumstances didn’t turn out that way.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't need to provide alternatives to say which elim is bad, and which is good from mech perspective.

If elim is bad, it's bad. That's it.

No Stalin. You live in an democratic society and what you say doesn’t just go around here. You need to back up your claims and ideas with FACT and LOGIC.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Enchant, why is Goldfish a bad elim?

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not sure either.

Neither am I

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Imagine a world where NM and Enchant are scum.

That would be wild.

[Enchant]

I already provided FACT and LOGIC why killing nullcop just for sake of that is dumb, it gives nothing and not worth of risk of having to babysit one person.

If you want kill this cop so much, do it LATER, so we actually benefit more from having conftown.

[Enchant]

Imagine a world where NM and Enchant are scum.

That would be wild.

Sometimes i dream about rolling Masons with NM. ANd then quickhammering shit out of everything.

But it's dreams. Is it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Do you think if Goldfish is telling the truth that losing Somnus is a massive loss for town right now?

[Enchant]

Do you consider Somnus town?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I think he could be town, yeah. But he isn't providing much to the gamestate right now, is he?

[Bellaphant]

I'd rather do goldfish over somnus 100%

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Yeah, I wasn't talking about elimming Somnus.

I meant that if we elim Goldfish and it turns out he is town, then scum are forced (?) to kill Somnus as he is confirmed. Given Somnus isn't providing a whole lot right now, it doesn't seem the biggest loss in the world.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not even saying I want to elim Goldfish either to be fair, just thinking out loud.

At the very least we wait for Goldfish to be replaced and so in the mean time I would like to elim Bella.

[Bellaphant]

See, I was agreeing with you until the last few words.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I can see why you would disagree with that.

But I'm just not getting town feels from you so I'm sorry <3 I've been burned by this before and I can't let it happen again

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah, I wasn't talking about elimming Somnus.

I meant that if we elim Goldfish and it turns out he is town, then scum are forced (?) to kill Somnus as he is confirmed. Given Somnus isn't providing a whole lot right now, it doesn't seem the biggest loss in the world.

I don’t think in the world where A: Goldfish is town and B: Somnus is made conf!town.
That there is even much threat to Somnus dying given that town likely has an N2 doctor that could protect them in that case and mafia would probably be keenly aware of that so maybe not even dare try.

[Enchant]

I think he could be town, yeah. But he isn't providing much to the gamestate right now, is he?

Simple fact that he is not likely maf is providing gamestate.

Do you disagree?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm not sure a N2 doctor is that high in probability?

Pedit - Read my previous posts Enchant for clarification on why I was asking what I was asking.

I'm not interested in elimming Somnus, or even Goldfish, but if Somnus is town I feel he could be doing much more.

[Enchant]

Yeah, I wasn't talking about elimming Somnus.

I meant that if we elim Goldfish and it turns out he is town, then scum are forced (?) to kill Somnus as he is confirmed. Given Somnus isn't providing a whole lot right now, it doesn't seem the biggest loss in the world.

I don’t think in the world where A: Goldfish is town and B: Somnus is made conf!town.
That there is even much threat to Somnus dying given that town likely has an N2 doctor that could protect them in that case and mafia would probably be keenly aware of that so maybe not even dare try.

We still lost one townie for conftowning another. While we already considered him town.

If you SCUMREAD Goldfish then maybe it makes sense, but you mostly "not sure" and going for it because it gives you conftown.
Which is useless.

Aye?