LOST (Game Over)

[Best Bird]

What does living Luke have to do with the chance of survivability of scum!Rad? People in this game aren't stupid. scum!Rad doesn't just kill Luke and everyone's like ooooh nooooo Luke's dead what do we dooooo. Even if Luke tunnels me, who cares? People have minds of their own. It's FAR worse for scum!Rad to constantly off people who scum read him than it is to keep them in the game. I was a main wagon yesterday and you weren't talking to Luke then.

Sure. But the scum team isn’t just Rad. Almost as if there are outside factors to consider. Almost.

Yeah but your stance here is that Luke's dead due to protecting scum!Rad. It doesn't make sense. Yeah Luke should have died for sure, but if you're going to point it to me as the reason, that reason doesn't check out because scum!Rad is safer without that pressure.

What? That’s not my stance at all.

[Rad]

What does living Luke have to do with the chance of survivability of scum!Rad? People in this game aren't stupid. scum!Rad doesn't just kill Luke and everyone's like ooooh nooooo Luke's dead what do we dooooo. Even if Luke tunnels me, who cares? People have minds of their own. It's FAR worse for scum!Rad to constantly off people who scum read him than it is to keep them in the game. I was a main wagon yesterday and you weren't talking to Luke then.

Sure. But the scum team isn’t just Rad. Almost as if there are outside factors to consider. Almost.

Yeah but your stance here is that Luke's dead due to protecting scum!Rad. It doesn't make sense. Yeah Luke should have died for sure, but if you're going to point it to me as the reason, that reason doesn't check out because scum!Rad is safer without that pressure.

What? That’s not my stance at all.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in china BB?

I've won his favor back before. Why wouldn't scum!Rad think he could do it again?

because he's been pretty tunneled on you? bad risk for scum!Rad

[Best Bird]

How does that have anything to do with Luke protecting you?

[Best Bird]

Oh - I see what you’re saying. Lol - I think like is dead for not just his read on your but his general ability as town and sifting a PR beyond neighbor.

[Rad]

What? Oh I see how you misread that.

"Yeah but your stance here is that Luke's dead due to protecting scum!Rad"

I'm saying that your stance is that Luke's dead because scum killed him to protect scum!Rad. Not that Luke died protecting Rad lol

[Rad]

Yeah Luke's dead for being good in general and being likely cop confirmed.

The push that Luke's dead to protect scum!Rad is ridiculous though. It puts me in the spotlight. If I'm scum!Rad, scum team kills Luke knowing that this is the risk, not because it somehow saves scum!Rad.

Once you see I flip green, Luke also died cause it frames Rad even more, which was probably not a driving factor (I mean, I suck, who cares about killing me) but is icing on the cake for sure.

[Rad]

I think wagon dynamics today strongly suggest one of Malcolm or Mala is scum.
~Cytosine

What changed from this?

This please @Cytosine.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: malcolm

i'm bored and you're annoying

if you're scum i'll just blame everyone else idcanymore

[Rad]

oshit I wasn't expecting that lol

[butterchurn]

VOTE: johnny

malcolm doesn't seem like he would be scum, why would he keep posting after the wagon keeps coming back to him..? its clear hes just town trying to leave last reads.
if he's scum hes just leaving lots of info for us to find his partners from.
town is sooooo much more likely here.

rad is town too, hes too motivated to be scum IMO.

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okay i'll force the use of it tonight HOJHIDFS whenever i suggest using it gamma keeps saying no but ill slide it in so it isn't noticed GIEUORFJ

He isn't really doing this, though. He hasn't posted much at all lately, and anything he has posted has just continued his Rad push from earlier. I don't think that makes him scum, since I haven't had a lot of time to post either, but I don't think he should be cleared for something that isn't happening.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oshit I wasn't expecting that lol

if you nag me enough ill just give up because i dont care enough about this game

[Rad]

Sorry if I negatively affected the game for you pooky. I had absolutely no expectation that you would jump wagons. I was just busy defending myself against shit I know isn't true but maybe I get too into it. If you're town I hope you can get back into the game. I mean you've been wrong about me but I don't want you jumping over to malcolm just because I'm annoying you. I'm not totally sure about malcolm as it is so I'd rather we had people who were also reading him scum to join the wagon or to hold off if it doesn't make sense. We got ~9 days still... If this is a TvT I'm banking on people smarter than me to stop it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i literally do not care i stopped caring about the game on day 1

[Mislim Bait]

VOTE: johnny

malcolm doesn't seem like he would be scum, why would he keep posting after the wagon keeps coming back to him..? its clear hes just town trying to leave last reads.
if he's scum hes just leaving lots of info for us to find his partners from.
town is sooooo much more likely here.

rad is town too, hes too motivated to be scum IMO.

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okay i'll force the use of it tonight HOJHIDFS whenever i suggest using it gamma keeps saying no but ill slide it in so it isn't noticed GIEUORFJ

How is this a real read?
"He keeps posting when he gets wagoned so he's town"

[Rad]

i literally do not care i stopped caring about the game on day 1

I thought you did awesome day 1. The spreadsheet was fucking sick. What's put you off?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have a certain amount of energy every day for life and if something is enjoyable I will spend energy on it

when that thing becomes not enjoyable I will not spend energy on it.

there is no point for me to spend energy on this game.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: malcolm

i'm bored and you're annoying

if

you're scum i'll just blame everyone

else idcanymore

Blame people for a wolf flip?
Do we not wanna vote a wolf Pooky?

[furtiveglance]

Hi, I hope we r voting mafia off, 3 in 16 chance!

[Off The Hook]

How is this a real read?
"He keeps posting when he gets wagoned so he's town"

how is anything you've posted real content??!?!??!

stop making me feel like an idiot honey xoxo im trying my best

[MalcolmTucker]

oshit I wasn't expecting that lol

This is so obvious and transparent here.

[MalcolmTucker]

Rad continually tries to convince Pooky they're being unreasonable for a solid read, Pooky then suddenly changes their vote and Rad gets all nice and apologetic suddenly. Obvious scum, eliminate this slot.

[butterflies]

i have a certain amount of energy every day for life and if something is enjoyable I will spend energy on it

when that thing becomes not enjoyable I will not spend energy on it.

there is no point for me to spend energy on this game.

Pooky, you are being extremely frustrating. If you genuinely think Malcolm is a better vote, great but to switch a vote because you don’t care about the game is extremely unhelpful. :/

[MalcolmTucker]

I find your argument for clearing yourself based on your primary pusher being nightkilled to be absurd.

It's especially absurd given Rad's push on me, which would involve me eliminating Luke who was strongly townreading me.

Rad's play consistently involves "this scummy action cannot be from me because it'd make me look too scummy" which is inherently a terrible defence. Yes, scum want to hide, but sometimes scum can play aggressively to eliminate threats and achieve their goals. If Rad killed Luke then he's already managed to get away with it for one turn. It's hardly immediately eliminated him from the game.

[MalcolmTucker]

i have a certain amount of energy every day for life and if something is enjoyable I will spend energy on it

when that thing becomes not enjoyable I will not spend energy on it.

there is no point for me to spend energy on this game.

Pooky, you are being extremely frustrating. If you genuinely think Malcolm is a better vote, great but to switch a vote because you don’t care about the game is extremely unhelpful. :/

Yeah, I get why Pooky is frustrated here but we have a decent number of votes on Rad and can still push it through. It's a good vote for all the reasons (and more) Pooky has outlined.

[MalcolmTucker]

Malcolm and Rad wagons are neck and neck

there's no reason for a scum!Malcolm to give up and stop posting.

For what it's worth I was genuinely just busy for most of yesterday (and a lot of this week) - the lack of content yesterday should be taken as NAI.