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Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:43 am

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Gamma is conftown, because does nothing, but fuels wagon on me.
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Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:43 am

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I wanted to write "Confscum".

Fuck.
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Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:44 am

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In post 1657, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1656, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1654, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.
I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.
Well, I can only go from Anything uPick, Chromavalon and PYP and don’t recall any of the types of posts I just mentioned.

So this is one of the main reasons a goldfish replace in would be great because how I read that slot would possibly tell us a lot about Enchant.

What info do you think you’d get from a scum!Jake?
What about Terminator?
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Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:06 am

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In post 1700, Enchant wrote:Gamma is
conftown
confscum, because does nothing, but fuels wagon on me.

I'll grant this, Gamma hasn't really done much in terms of justification for their stances.
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Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:52 am

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In post 1689, Something_Smart wrote:
Kop replaces GoldfishFromTheMoon!
Oh thank God, finally. Hopefully this will finally get this game moving.
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Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:54 am

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In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
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Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 1700, Enchant wrote:Gamma is conftown, because does nothing, but fuels wagon on me.
In post 1701, Enchant wrote:I wanted to write "Confscum".

Fuck.
Why can’t he be confibiased town from your perspective?
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Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 10:58 am

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In post 1702, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1657, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1656, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1654, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:Unless Enchant has drastically switched up his scumgame, his making posts like “99% wrong”, questioning if another player is town are things I don’t recall seeing from past Enchant scumgames. Do you disagree? @Gamma.
I don’t really read Enchant on content, I read him on vibes. He’s given me more of a scum vibe than a town vibe but if the data supports your theory I’m willing to go with it. But unless a suspect comes up that’s better than either of Jake/Enchant, I’d rather vote out Enchant today because I feel like leaving Jake alive might tell us more if he is scum.
Well, I can only go from Anything uPick, Chromavalon and PYP and don’t recall any of the types of posts I just mentioned.

So this is one of the main reasons a goldfish replace in would be great because how I read that slot would possibly tell us a lot about Enchant.

What info do you think you’d get from a scum!Jake?
What about Terminator?
He was pretty obviously townie in that. I really couldn’t tell with him in Schadd’s game.
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Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:03 am

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In post 1705, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
What was something you'd hope they do?
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Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:07 am

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In post 1708, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1705, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
What was something you'd hope they do?
If I can get a strong read on that slot one way or another, that’s will really help me hopefully decide who to vote.
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Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:10 am

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In post 1709, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1708, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1705, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
What was something you'd hope they do?
If I can get a strong read on that slot one way or another, that’s will really help me hopefully decide who to vote.
How will that help decide?
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Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:16 am

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In post 1710, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1709, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1708, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1705, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
What was something you'd hope they do?
If I can get a strong read on that slot one way or another, that’s will really help me hopefully decide who to vote.
How will that help decide?
I’m hoping. Well, if they’re really townie, it would confirm for me that Enchant is probably town because they usually don’t defend town as scum. A lot of players have expressed opinions on that slot and since Goldfish really didn’t do pretty much anything AI, that might possibly be informative, no?
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Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:50 am

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In post 1711, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1710, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1709, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1708, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1705, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
What was something you'd hope they do?
If I can get a strong read on that slot one way or another, that’s will really help me hopefully decide who to vote.
How will that help decide?
I’m hoping. Well, if they’re really townie, it would confirm for me that Enchant is probably town because they usually don’t defend town as scum. A lot of players have expressed opinions on that slot and since Goldfish really didn’t do pretty much anything AI, that might possibly be informative, no?
Could a scum Enchant be defending a town Goldfish because it would be an easy person to defend?
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Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:56 am

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In post 1712, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1711, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1710, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1709, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1708, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1705, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1693, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Gamma, Nancy, and Friend, What are your current reasons for not voting?
I was waiting for replace in to do something. Hopefully that happens very soon.
What was something you'd hope they do?
If I can get a strong read on that slot one way or another, that’s will really help me hopefully decide who to vote.
How will that help decide?
I’m hoping. Well, if they’re really townie, it would confirm for me that Enchant is probably town because they usually don’t defend town as scum. A lot of players have expressed opinions on that slot and since Goldfish really didn’t do pretty much anything AI, that might possibly be informative, no?
Could a scum Enchant be defending a town Goldfish because it would be an easy person to defend?
Sure it’s possible but in my experience playing with scum!Enchant, he’s far less likely to do that.
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Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 11:58 am

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In post 1706, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1700, Enchant wrote:Gamma is conftown, because does nothing, but fuels wagon on me.
In post 1701, Enchant wrote:I wanted to write "Confscum".

Fuck.
Why can’t he be confibiased town from your perspective?

I played with Gamma, and never before failed to read me, this is... Probably first or maybe second time.
It's possible that town of course, but... Meeeh. I don't feel so.



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Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:30 pm

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I don’t think you’re scum here, you’re just doing way too many things I see as pretty much being absent from your scumgame.
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Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:15 pm

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In post 1715, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:I don’t think you’re scum here, you’re just doing way too many things I see as pretty much being absent from your scumgame.
This is a funny phrasing of this, you sure this is what you meant?
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Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:43 pm

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In post 1716, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1715, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:I don’t think you’re scum here, you’re just doing way too many things I see as pretty much being absent from your scumgame.
This is a funny phrasing of this, you sure this is what you meant?
What’s “funny” about it?

I think it’s extremely clear. I don’t think Enchant is scum here because his play here doesn’t line up with his scum meta.
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Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:15 pm

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Alright, I misinterpreted it.
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Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:13 am

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BBT i’d kinda hoped you would have answered questions aimed at you by now.
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Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2022 12:48 am

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I haven't been active for the past day or so.

What questions need answering?
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Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:41 am

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In post 1621, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1619, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1583, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Likelihood of both Enchant and Jake being town?

High.
How did you go from this to back to voting Jake?
Yeah, how did you go from this to putting one of us at E-1?
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Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:44 am

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In post 1678, Don Draper x Mistress wrote:
In post 1585, Enchant wrote:Aw shit. Here we go again.


Look, likelyhood of Somnus being town is already high.
No one scumread Goldfish for real, and only idea is "Let's kill Goldfish because null, if we are wrong, we get conftown anyway and can protect him!". Conftowning person who is already town is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda dumb, especially because with idea "Why not, we can protect him!".


It's just not worth it mechanically, unless there's like 80%+ chance of goldfish being mafia, and i am pretty confident that Goldfish is Town than not, but that's me (i can't provide reasonable explainings).
Even if Goldfish is mafia (which can be possible, like anything possible), it may be even benefiting to ignore him for a moment, where we are unsure. I strongly believe that he turns obvious lategame, and this way Somnus will be alive as well, which easies game a bit.


In unpredicted case, where Somnus and Goldfish both mafs (Which i am 99% sure NOT a case, but still), i still belive it's worth to watch them, not risk likelytowns just for sake of risk.
I agree with this, and this makes me feel better about Enchant's slot. Goldfish is the one who has a claimed inno on them, yeah? I don't want to lim Goldfish either.

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Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:17 am

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Have you read up on the game so far?
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Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Sun Aug 21, 2022 3:27 am

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I think if there is scum between Enchant and Jake then Jake is more likely.

I'd rather not elim any but that doesn't seem to be an option. So, shrug.
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