Mini Normal 2279: VGSR - GAME OVER

[Ausuka]

FWIW I think I see where BBT is coming from overall - scum often do like to avoid 'keeping their hands dirty' on wagons where possible

But also like... look at the wagon composition there. I think hutmeil and hoppip are the most suspicious players in the game right now, they both jumped on the wagon, and there's a serious lack of momentum on doing literally anything else in this game. If they're trying to exploit the (numerous) opportunities to wagon players like hutmeil and Mohab, I think that's an indication probably at least two scum are engaged with this instead.

Also Juice is like, the easiest target ever here. Scum don't even have to justify their vote really because like... come on.

[Ausuka]

What are your reads on other players

Not gonna do a comprehensive one, but here's my readslist:

[Obviously!]

hutmeil

[The they make sense list (at least for me) and are actively trying to solve things]

Frogsterking
inutile
Eiralox
DeltaWave
Ausuka

[The not so active but presented enough information to get a pass on D1]
furtiveglance
Greeting
Nuclear Gandhi
Mohab500
BlueBloodedToffee
hoppip

[Already explained this. Basically, the slot lurks but is good enough for an elim because he has voted and given his read, so we can get some info next day]

Juice

I mean look at hutmeil's ISO and this post in particular

No one is talking about this guy or pushing him

[Juice]

What are your reads on other players

Not gonna do a comprehensive one, but here's my readslist:

[Obviously!]

hutmeil

[The they make sense list (at least for me) and are actively trying to solve things]

Frogsterking
inutile
Eiralox
DeltaWave
Ausuka

[The not so active but presented enough information to get a pass on D1]
furtiveglance
Greeting
Nuclear Gandhi
Mohab500
BlueBloodedToffee
hoppip

[Already explained this. Basically, the slot lurks but is good enough for an elim because he has voted and given his read, so we can get some info next day]

Juice

not really a read list.

more like - you jsut point out four players that have been more active.

then just everyone else.
then the person you want lynched.

quite an embarrassing list really. Also you've nearly had as many posts as me. so i'd ask how come you have a read list - but have nothing to show for it? youn sounds like mafia - looking for an easy day 1 push on someone who has been a bit AFK

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Any thoughts on the game in general Juice?

[Juice]

Asuka, BBT and Delta Wave I think seem the most town - but I have been semi-active so need to really look through the game - probably later tonigt

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Do you have any scum reads?

What makes you think Delta is town?

[DeltaWave]

Also Juice is like, the easiest target ever here. Scum don't even have to justify their vote really because like... come on.

from my perspective, this is primarily a pressurewagon although i see there was almost a hammer last night. not really happy with that.

[Ausuka]

Also Juice is like, the easiest target ever here. Scum don't even have to justify their vote really because like... come on.

from my perspective, this is primarily a pressurewagon although i see there was almost a hammer last night. not really happy with that.

I mean, sure. But no one is defending Juice and they were at E-1 with two people declaring intent to hammer. I don't think I'm wrong about what I'm saying.

[DeltaWave]

i'm concerned about many of the same things you are but i think what matters the most is (1) why people are on the wagon and (2) why the hammerers were going to hammer. just being on the wagon itself doesn't concern me since that can easily be scum bussing a scumbuddy, etc.

[DeltaWave]

basically i don't care so much about what people do but rather why they do it.

[Ausuka]

I mean, sure, but given there's not a lot of substance to actually say about Juice's posting beyond pointing out the obvious issues it is difficult to differentiate

I find hutmeil and hoppip suspicious and they were on the wagon, what do you think of them

[DeltaWave]

hutmeil providing some consensus reads and not much else looks scummy to me.

hoppip might also be scum or might also be a very new player who somehow got into a normal game and i'm not sure which one it is. his account is literally like a week old.

[DeltaWave]

the part i don't get is why anyone would want to hammer juice right now. we're only about half way through day 1 and i don't understand why we would want it to end early.

[Ausuka]

Hoppip is pretty obviously an alt and iirc said so himself

What do you think of the fact that most of what hutmeil has actually done, except the easy Juice vote, has been prompted by someone else

[Ausuka]

@Delta

@hutmeil

@BBT

What do you make of 237?

Interesting that he started his RVS on page 8. It could be he's just getting started.

I'll give the slot the benefit of the doubt but I guess the slot earns some scum points for me.

UNVOTE: juice

Nice. I guess townie points for you. I'm still waiting for your survey though.

What are your reads on other players

Not gonna do a comprehensive one, but here's my readslist:

[Obviously!]

hutmeil

[The they make sense list (at least for me) and are actively trying to solve things]

Frogsterking
inutile
Eiralox
DeltaWave
Ausuka

[The not so active but presented enough information to get a pass on D1]
furtiveglance
Greeting
Nuclear Gandhi
Mohab500
BlueBloodedToffee
hoppip

[Already explained this. Basically, the slot lurks but is good enough for an elim because he has voted and given his read, so we can get some info next day]

Juice

[DeltaWave]

i must have missed the alt thing. i will have to reevaluate in that light.

being 100% reactive is a potential tell. however there is still time today for useful content to be provided. UNLESS WE HAMMER EARLY WHICH WE SHOULDNT DO

[Ausuka]

I was trying to quote+ and actually make a point in that post. I failed miserably.

Anyway, these posts make up pretty much all of hutmeil's game content. You can see for yourself how reactive it all is. His Juice push originated from Frog, an active player who is probably town, basically suggesting it to him. He made an engagement with frog because frog unvoted after his vote. He made his (pretty empty) readslist basically because I asked him to. None of these are a problem individually, but when you consider this is *pretty much all he does* he comes across as incredibly reactive.

I guess I should check his meta.

[Ausuka]

inutile, hutmeil, Mohab500, hopefully you three can vote soon, even if you vote me I think it would be helpful to see where you want to push!

Will do so later on my laptop. Will reread there and then vote.

Initially I gave Juice the benefit of the doubt (late RVS??). Then the slot voted Delta which I town lean, then town reads Ausuka for no given reason.

VOTE: Juice

As for the other slots, I'm willing to give a pass since it's still D1.

This is E-1 (if I counted correctly).

Oh actually - the Juice vote was because hoppip asked him to as well

[Ausuka]

I checked his meta and while he isn't the most active player - there is *definitely* something missing here.

VOTE: hutmeil

[Frogsterking]

Yall self-described lurkers should be filling out my survey. It helped me understand Mohab (I think) based some of the categories I can eyeball and I haven't even scored it yet.

[DeltaWave]

i'm not 100% clear on what the survey is supposed to do, tbh

[Frogsterking]

i'm not 100% clear on what the survey is supposed to do, tbh

Are you hiding something?

[Ausuka]

Delta wants to hide her Myers-Briggs type

[Frogsterking]

i'm not 100% clear on what the survey is supposed to do, tbh

Are you hiding something?

I mean it takes less than 5 minutes to do and you're playing a game where nothing outside of some mechs is 100% certain.

PEdit:



Technically this survey is measuring 15 of the 30 sub facets of the NEO-IPIP which has better test validity and predictive utility than the Meyers-Briggs

[Gamma Emerald]

Juice is being replaced.