Then who do you think is the last scum then?In post 1522, Vivax wrote:What's the point of bait if you're both not up for decision? Seems like an honest angle out of pure curiosity.Updated answer: AristeiaIn post 1505, Radical Rat wrote:[quote="In post 1462
Rat who do you think is scum that's not in the test right now?In post 1472, Aristeia wrote:I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for VultureThis is bait, and it's coming from scum. Not for scumreading me, but for trying to goad me into specific actions under the threat of scumreading me.In post 1474, Aristeia wrote:it kind of almost feels like RR is in the same position Bell was in on D1
Think you and Ari both villa atp.
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And that’s not the only time Greeting contradicts himself.In post 1523, GuiltyLion wrote:
but how does town!Greeting evolve from "I understand why furtive is annoyed" to "There's no reason for town to be annoyed"? If they did understand it in the first place, they'd understand why town might act that way. To me it seems like one of those statements has to be a lie. the best case I can make for a town explanation is that Greeting was exaggerating in the second post to try to sell a case, but even that still seems fundamentally disingenuousIn post 1521, Aristeia wrote:I don't think 1494 is definitive either way - contradictions are not solid evidence of alignment imo.
Greeting went from Roden isn’t doing anything to I want to hear Roden’s scumcase on furtive.- Loki Dokie
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In post 425, Greeting wrote:So apparently analysing and votingRodenshould be my priority now. Let's look at his ISO.
Rodenis emotional when town, hates being wrongly accused, fiercely fights back when wrongly accused.
Rodenis much colder when scum.
This shouldn't be hard.
His game start was... bad. I know that he tends to get eliminated Day 1 really often and he's limbait pretty much though. That's why I wanted to cut him some slack and give him a chance to prove himself and why I consciously decided to ignore his pre-existing 4 posts when I joined the game. Nonetheless, it also does feel like a convenient excuse to not make an entrance and sneak back in the game only once it's started.
I noticed thatLoki Dokieis being unusually aggressive in pursuingRodenfor essentailly a naked vote in 188. The justification being that:
This sounds like a very highly personal read and apparently un-outed alts are involved too, so it's also not provable. SorryIn post 406, Loki Dokie wrote:
If I’m somehow wrong on you, vote Roden. He has never wrongly sr me in any game ever. He’s one of those players like Mastina who never srs me as town.In post 402, Greeting wrote:
So you checked my random town game and decided that whatever it is doesn't match to what I'm doing here?In post 358, Loki Dokie wrote:VOTE: Greeting
I did a meta dive and based off of that, I think he could be scum here.
Mission failed successfully.Loki Dokie, but on the surface this is a bad reason to push a read so strongly. That is a minus for scumRodenin my books actually.
Still,Roden's attitude towards this game doesn't seem very towny.
Where's the scumhunting energy? All I see is never ending excuses for why there is none.In post 367, Roden wrote:
Ngl I opened up the browser when I got home, quoted the Loki post, and then just smoked and went on youtube for a few hours insteadIn post 363, Aristeia wrote:In post 352, Roden wrote:Posting just to say I'm not lurking, I've been dealing with a crisis with a friend and I'm more focused on that atm. I'll respond to stuff later tonight.
roden not actually following up feels pretty significantly +scum equity
What game were we both in where I was scum? Or is that just a general read?In post 446, Greeting wrote:
How so?In post 434, furtiveglance wrote:I'm becoming increasingly confident on Greeting, and Vivax hasn't really changed my mind, but I think I'll move my vote in the interests of momentum.
Greeting is playing, quite literally, like a robot.
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There is absolutely no way this happened because both Greeting and Bell were in KTANE - a very recent game, so why would Greeting think that Bell’s memory is so bad that he’d forget that Greeting was also in that game.Datisi wrote:
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wait hold up, I think Greeting is just replying to that last bit in Bell's post, about their reads list being "kill all lurkers". I don't think Greeting was actually responding to the first bit about alts. So that should resolve Rat's point/concern"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- Loki Dokie
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Oh and look who was also in this game - that took placeIn post 1528, Loki Dokie wrote:Spoiler:
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There is absolutely no way this happened because both Greeting and Bell were in KTANE - a very recent game, so why would Greeting think that Bell’s memory is so bad that he’d forget that Greeting was also in that game.Datisi wrote:
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Greeting, Bell and Andante were all in a game together that happened 5 months ago, so why would Greeting think that Bell would mix him up with Andante?In post 318, Greeting wrote:In post 316, Bell wrote:Are you the other dog avatar. Because you’re the only player that comes into a game as an alt and immediately claims that they’re obviously the sog avatar when you’re significantly goofier when you’re the dog.
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@RR?In post 1511, Loki Dokie wrote:
@RR don’t you think this interaction with Ari and Bell looks antipartnery?In post 1502, Loki Dokie wrote:
So Bell was actually telling the truth here, he just meant that Ari was wrong on Dann not him.Post Post #1212 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:35 pm
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I have bad news.i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over
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well...In post 1525, Loki Dokie wrote:
Then who do you think is the last scum then?In post 1522, Vivax wrote:
What's the point of bait if you're both not up for decision? Seems like an honest angle out of pure curiosity.
Updated answer: AristeiaIn post 1505, Radical Rat wrote:[quote="In post 1462
Rat who do you think is scum that's not in the test right now?In post 1472, Aristeia wrote:I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture
This is bait, and it's coming from scum. Not for scumreading me, but for trying to goad me into specific actions under the threat of scumreading me.In post 1474, Aristeia wrote:it kind of almost feels like RR is in the same position Bell was in on D1
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In post 987, Roden wrote:I...don't know why I'm alive. That was one of my worst Day 1's in awhile, I expected to get thrown in the pit for an easy scum point.
I understand Kitty flipped red but I genuinely don't know why he got flipped at all. Every time I've seem scum!Kitty, he fights hard to live and gets hard protected by his allies, with all the pressure on him and no real defense I thought he was just town LHF again. There's no way he wasn't bussed, because I still don't think he did anything particularly scummy for people to want him out as badly as everyone did.In post 1014, Roden wrote:
Kuti is an odd choice, my only guess is that mafia needs Dann dead and that they think they can send me up against pretty much anyone and score. A dead influential townie now and a free point later isn't the worst strat in hindsight.In post 989, GuiltyLion wrote:Roden, if you're town and Dann is never scum here, why do you think mafia put mafia!kuti against town!Dann instead of you
If we get this right, we won’t have to worry who it is and I still think it’s Vulture. Roden’s vote on me may have been bad but Vulture tried to rush Dann vote and hard doubt my furtive readIn post 1015, Roden wrote:
It sure is fun getting accused of being bad level zero scum every single gameIn post 1003, GuiltyLion wrote:I dunno I need to sleep on it and really articulate it but I have this knawing fear that Dann is the deep wolf and furtive/Vivax/fire/Loki/Ari is basically the town bloc and Rat and Roden are trying to go for this "the simple explanation is correct kuti is kafia" tack with like NO apparent doubt that Dann might be scum, to try to get it back to even. Why would mafia be ok with risking going down 2-0, at that point town could fluke into a win on any of the last three tests it's such a dangerous position. If I were mafia and down 1-0 I'd be putting forward what I thought was one of our best chances to win a point
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with 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2022-08-29 23:15:00).
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Sorry, brain's been a bit scattered lately.In post 1532, Loki Dokie wrote:
@RR?In post 1511, Loki Dokie wrote:
@RR don’t you think this interaction with Ari and Bell looks antipartnery?In post 1502, Loki Dokie wrote:
So Bell was actually telling the truth here, he just meant that Ari was wrong on Dann not him.Post Post #1212 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:35 pm
In post 1149, Aristeia wrote:
I have bad news.i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over
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I think that the vote placements of both Loki and Roden around these pages are sus, they're both placed at pos 3 or 4 after getting wagoned respectively, but Loki voted Roden after this progression:
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Most based votecount I foundIn post 919, Datisi wrote:vote count 1.11
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).
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Oh you think I’m the last scum here? Well you’d be 100% wrong in that case, so if that’s the sole basis for your Roden vote, I strongly advise you to rethink it.In post 1538, Vivax wrote:I think that the vote placements of both Loki and Roden around these pages are sus, they're both placed at pos 3 or 4 after getting wagoned respectively, but Loki voted Roden after this progression:
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In that case you'd HAVE to think and promote that fire is scumIn post 1541, Loki Dokie wrote:
Oh you think I’m the last scum here? Well you’d be 100% wrong in that case, so if that’s the sole basis for your Roden vote, I strongly advise you to rethink it.In post 1538, Vivax wrote:I think that the vote placements of both Loki and Roden around these pages are sus, they're both placed at pos 3 or 4 after getting wagoned respectively, but Loki voted Roden after this progression:
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Why? I don’t think it’s fire. Why would I want to push slots I think are town?In post 1542, Vivax wrote:
In that case you'd HAVE to think and promote that fire is scumIn post 1541, Loki Dokie wrote:
Oh you think I’m the last scum here? Well you’d be 100% wrong in that case, so if that’s the sole basis for your Roden vote, I strongly advise you to rethink it.In post 1538, Vivax wrote:I think that the vote placements of both Loki and Roden around these pages are sus, they're both placed at pos 3 or 4 after getting wagoned respectively, but Loki voted Roden after this progression:
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233 indicates coin flip read
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I don’t want us to lose, so no I have 0 interest in pushing my trs.- Loki Dokie
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I think that fire, GL and Ari are town. I thought you were as well but I’m slightly paranoing on you now. I still think last scum is probably RR unless it’s actually you.
GL - sounds like his towngame
ARi - anti-associates with Bell
+ after being wrong on Dann, wanted to sheep fire.
fire - like duh, has had the correct takes every single fucking time!
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Because either you or fire were not hammering KTIn post 1539, Vivax wrote:
Most based votecount I foundIn post 919, Datisi wrote:vote count 1.11
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).
VOTE: Roden
While I've had 2 flipped scum on me at minimum
And KT had one flipped on them
So either you argue both wagons were scum, or that you and fire are always a t/m combo and try to reach Rodens alignment from there
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Just reposting this, just in case Vivax actually is seriously bad town here.[/b]In post 532, furtiveglance wrote:
The first two I kinda get, don't really agree with Dannflor.In post 527, Vivax wrote:Ari, Dann, Loki are mafia on an incomplete reread.
Roden, Furtive maybe town from page 8 behaviour.
Fireisred is peculiar.I don't know where you got Loki being mafia from. They seem very town, their entire gameview is based on mafia trying to get them out. I don't think scum would play like that nor have I ever seen it.
Only think he’s managed to accomplish is doubt my sr on RR because I know it’s not me obviously and I seriously doubt it’s ever GL, Ari and especially fire.
That definitely really pinged me, that Vivax asked me to make a scumcase on the most obvious town player still alive in the game, to prove I’m not scum.
Like maybe it actually is Vivax and I’m wrong on RR?- Loki Dokie
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Why wouldn’t Vulture pile on you as scum?In post 1547, Vivax wrote:
Because either you or fire were not hammering KTIn post 1539, Vivax wrote:
Most based votecount I foundIn post 919, Datisi wrote:vote count 1.11
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).
VOTE: Roden
While I've had 2 flipped scum on me at minimum
And KT had one flipped on them
So either you argue both wagons were scum, or that you and fire are always a t/m combo and try to reach Rodens alignment from there
Knowing I'm town, I highly doubt Vulture wouldn't pile on me as scum there, for me it's easier to reach the conclusion that Roden is the one we lim
How does fire make sense as scum? He strongly advocated us to vote for both Kuti and Bell? Which means we would have actually fucking won. - Loki Dokie
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