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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:13 am

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what keyboard button did i press to press submit.. ahh w/.e
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:13 am

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Why would you be productive day 3 and not day 2?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:13 am

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In post 643, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 636, Ausuka wrote:
In post 628, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 625, Eiralox wrote:like this is 625. i dont wanna be thinking about 178 at this point.
The past doesn't get invalidated, not for me at least.
Hmm.. did you sin something in the past? :twisted:
I think what Eiralox is trying to say is that it's difficult to read you when you are only engaging with things that happened early on in the day
I really wanted to make/give my full thoughts for 1 game, but clearly I'm a bit lacking on the time commitment part.
I do feel like I'd be a productive member of society by Day3 or something, so I'd prefer to keep this up as is. What do you think would be the most productive course of action for me? If I read everything and tried to give my summary - I'd forget 80% of what I read and 99% of my thoughts, if I ever would have them.
I think that the most productive use of your time is to read through the game making notes of the most important things, with less depth. Maybe just make private notes so they don't need to be presentable to others. When you're done, you can form reads using all of the information available and make those arguments to others.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:14 am

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In post 647, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 619, Nero Cain wrote:I still want to know why Frog unvoted Gandi to join a smaller Juice wagon while still scum reading Gandhi.

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3rd time I've asked this
I wanted to find out what would happen and I knew I could change my vote back.
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:15 am

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In post 652, Ausuka wrote:
In post 643, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 636, Ausuka wrote:
In post 628, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 625, Eiralox wrote:like this is 625. i dont wanna be thinking about 178 at this point.
The past doesn't get invalidated, not for me at least.
Hmm.. did you sin something in the past? :twisted:
I think what Eiralox is trying to say is that it's difficult to read you when you are only engaging with things that happened early on in the day
I really wanted to make/give my full thoughts for 1 game, but clearly I'm a bit lacking on the time commitment part.
I do feel like I'd be a productive member of society by Day3 or something, so I'd prefer to keep this up as is. What do you think would be the most productive course of action for me? If I read everything and tried to give my summary - I'd forget 80% of what I read and 99% of my thoughts, if I ever would have them.
I think that the most productive use of your time is to read through the game making notes of the most important things, with less depth. Maybe just make private notes so they don't need to be presentable to others. When you're done, you can form reads using all of the information available and make those arguments to others.
But that would defeat the whole purpose because then we couldn't SEE all the deep notes they're taking.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:17 am

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I assume Frog at least read my post/-s.
Eiralox didn't even read my last submitted post and they avoided every chance to talk about my slot early in the game. I don't believe they're game solving personally.
How can they even act about not understanding me when they don't even read my posts?

Frog is frog. I hate the inherently uncooperative playstyle, but unlike Eiralox slot - Frog at least has some process going on instead of just talking empty air.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:17 am

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In post 639, Ausuka wrote:I would be willing to wagon either hutmeil or hoppip.
Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:19 am

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In post 656, Nero Cain wrote:Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?
Have you gotten me confused with someone else??? I have been vocally townreading eiralox and scumreading hoppip for a long time
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:20 am

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In post 651, Nero Cain wrote:Why would you be productive day 3 and not day 2?
It's the time I expect to have fully caught up, just instinctively.
I am productive for my own standards now fwiw. But I reckon by Day3 I'd solve this game more likely than most others. :cop:
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:21 am

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In post 654, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 652, Ausuka wrote:
In post 643, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 636, Ausuka wrote:
In post 628, Nuclear Gandhi wrote:
In post 625, Eiralox wrote:like this is 625. i dont wanna be thinking about 178 at this point.
The past doesn't get invalidated, not for me at least.
Hmm.. did you sin something in the past? :twisted:
I think what Eiralox is trying to say is that it's difficult to read you when you are only engaging with things that happened early on in the day
I really wanted to make/give my full thoughts for 1 game, but clearly I'm a bit lacking on the time commitment part.
I do feel like I'd be a productive member of society by Day3 or something, so I'd prefer to keep this up as is. What do you think would be the most productive course of action for me? If I read everything and tried to give my summary - I'd forget 80% of what I read and 99% of my thoughts, if I ever would have them.
bruh, you don't have access to my own notes, don't kid yourself.
I think that the most productive use of your time is to read through the game making notes of the most important things, with less depth. Maybe just make private notes so they don't need to be presentable to others. When you're done, you can form reads using all of the information available and make those arguments to others.
But that would defeat the whole purpose because then we couldn't SEE all the deep notes they're taking.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:22 am

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bruh, you don't have access to my own notes, don't kid yourself.*
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:25 am

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In post 657, Ausuka wrote:
In post 656, Nero Cain wrote:Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?
Have you gotten me confused with someone else??? I have been vocally townreading eiralox and scumreading hoppip for a long time
its possible
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:28 am

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In post 661, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 657, Ausuka wrote:
In post 656, Nero Cain wrote:Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?
Have you gotten me confused with someone else??? I have been vocally townreading eiralox and scumreading hoppip for a long time
its possible
This is TvT
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 8:31 am

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admittedly, there was some skimming involved but I was able to read the whole game last night,

My worry here is that Gandhi is "perpetually behind" as a scum tactic rather than actually just being too lazy/busy to catch up.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:02 am

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In post 662, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 661, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 657, Ausuka wrote:
In post 656, Nero Cain wrote:Why did eiralox drop from your scum reads? I thought you were town reading hoppip?
Have you gotten me confused with someone else??? I have been vocally townreading eiralox and scumreading hoppip for a long time
its possible
This is TvT
I mean, I am explicitly townreading Nero
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:33 am

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MHD is feeling town to me. we aren't going to eliminate gandhi.

keeping nero in the likely town pool (doesn't change my inutile read)

i like the greeting wagon. i don't want to vote until we get a VC because idk how close greeting is to hammer.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:45 am

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In post 665, DeltaWave wrote:MHD is feeling town to me. we aren't going to eliminate gandhi.

keeping nero in the likely town pool (doesn't change my inutile read)

i like the greeting wagon. i don't want to vote until we get a VC because idk how close greeting is to hammer.
My biggest issue with the Greeting wagon is that Greeting is V/la so they don't have the ability to adequately defend themselves. I also haven't checked Greeting's meta to see if they normally propose this strategy D1.

Posts like the above are fueling my confbias of a Delta/Gandhi/MHD solve.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:49 am

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Like I have 4 players in my solve right now [greeting, delta, gandhi, MHD] and apparently all 3 of them want to vote the other 1? What? This is jet fuel for conf bias.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:54 am

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Mapuche (MHD) is doing a similar strat as Gandhi right now by the way, just spread out over like 20 posts instead of massive walls.
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:55 am

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no, Ausuka says those are shitty reads
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:01 am

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I'm increasingly convinced you haven't actually read any of my posts
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:08 am

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My experience from reading through a few games I wasn't in and from playing against town!Nero as scum!Frog indicates that Nero has both good read accuracy and a tendency to get sidetracked by TvTs with other active Town players.
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:08 am

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VOTE: Frogsterking
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:09 am

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Strange vote @ furtiveglance
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:13 am

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In post 673, Frogsterking wrote:Strange vote @ furtiveglance
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