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[Fredrick A Campbell]

Spoiler: post 882 by MeekMeerkat

ummmm feeling really torn but Frederick I choose you! If you'll be my neighbor

Spoiler: post 840 as requested by the moderators

Frederick will you neighborhood with me?

Dunnstral will you neighborhood with me?

I can’t remember if you have a neighbor.

Neighbourhood Accept (MeekMeerkat)

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Spoiler: post 884 by Gamma Emerald

Spoiler: Wall of assorted read thoughts

Tictac’s read on me sucks ass, I think he’s trying to push the most surface-level scummy thing he could have found to push me, and I also expect better after he’s seen scum!me a couple times recently
I’m cool with a Sara lim, I don’t know exactly what to make of her confusion but I get bad vibes from it
I think Titus is obvtown based on how she clearly was actively trying to make her role as pro-town as possible by curbing possible downsides, so I do not sympathize with anyone pushing her at this point. And to make this clear now that the parameters are cleared for this, the game which I was referring to where Titus was obvscum in a hood was Mini Normal 2272.
I would very much still appreciate if Fred could elucidate me on his progression on me and maybe some other slots (can’t think of anything I have particular interest in so it’s his choice of what to expand on if he does so, aside from me specifically wanting him to explain his thought on me). He waffles from me being town to naked voting me to backing off, which is concerning. My immediate conclusion is he thought I was an easy push based on outdated content but swiftly realized I was townposting more recently.
I’m softly mindmelding with Meerkat here, which means while our reads don’t match I think I see his thought process and it tracks.
Meerkat also has a solid point regarding Nomsy that Titus’ role makes Nomsy’s existence potentially overpowering if they and their controller are scum.
I want to see what beeboy does going forward but I think Fred’s vote there is okayish.
Yume is locktown, doubt I need to explain why I feel this way
Toog of town I think should have done something spicey by now, so I think they can be scum
Mala I still trust rn
Frogster I thought was somewhat towny irt, I think I wanna double check that with an ISO read
Still think Vivax is sketchy
Still think Enchant is fine
NDMath idk how I feel, he’s basically always been a question mark in any game I’ve played with him?
Cakez I still think is town

"I would very much still appreciate if Fred could elucidate me on his progression on me and maybe some other slots (can’t think of anything I have particular interest in so it’s his choice of what to expand on if he does so, aside from me specifically wanting him to explain his thought on me)."

My read on you was initially null until I read your ISO. It became a very slight townlean after I read your ISO. I then placed a random vote on you. The reaction I got was, unfortunately for me, kind of useless to read you. It is thus my read on you is still a very slight townlean.

That is kind of all I remember. I'm sure the actual progression has a lot more fluctuations after I started to pay attention to your posts.

[Enchant]

I can only wonder if Titus ability could be used to hydra with mafs and then die with them all.

VOTE: Sara

[Vivax]

My townreads currently are Gamma, Legends, Meek, Enchant, and Yume, although Yume is because there's multiple people telling me their blatant obvtown rather than any of my own thoughts.
Also to a lesser extent than my other townreads, Fredrick.
Dunn, Beeboy, and Sircakez are roughly null to me.
Which leaves {Vivax Tictac Sara Toog Mala} as south of null; I plan to review these and attempt to explain my thoughts in the next hourish.

On Sara this is their towniest game imo after a short meta dive and idk what to think about that. Nomsy's argument about the vigshot looks weaker than I initially thought since Sara's iso before and after mastina's death looks pretty similar.

On Toog I agree with Gamma's thoughts:

Toog of town I think should have done something spicey by now, so I think they can be scum

My impression of toogeloo being there is usually more to remark on their play when town whereas here toogeloo has been rather low impact and less engaged than my previous experiences with them, granted it's been awhile since I last played with Toog.

On Tictac they're a scumlean for their weaker posting , #877 is their best post but I'm not convinced of their reasoning supporting their scumread on gamma enough.

On Mala, that scumlean was primarily from Mastina's push and I'm not feeling as good about the read currently with some other details I'm rereading.

On Vivax, starting in the 400s they have a number of weird posts imo, specifically regarding their scumreads. Such as their talk of me bussing meek was nonsensical, they make multiple weird claims relating to Nomsy slot interactions, and meek/me/enchant is an almost lazy trio of scumreads they've clung to nearly the whole game thus far.

[Yume]

Fine then. Ignore everything I say. As usual.

[Yume]

This is why I don't do readlists anymore. Everyone ignores them.

[Vivax]

On Sara this is their towniest game imo after a short meta dive and idk what to think about that. - What?

and meek/me/enchant is an almost lazy trio of scumreads they've clung to nearly the whole game thus far. - You + Enchant is a thing. Meek is now in TRs

Dunn, Beeboy, and Sircakez are roughly null to me - 1 or 2 scum in here *grin*

On Vivax, starting in the 400s they have a number of weird posts imo - Hate to break it to you, but I am weird posting in the flesh

Well

Town: Vivax, you, me
Scum: Mala, Nomsy
Null: Everybody else

Fine, am I doing this right?

Best friends augment: Yume

[Yume]

That was mostly to Gamma.

Also, I am already paired up.

[Yume]

That is, unless Legends too dies, in which case, fml.

[Vivax]

Hm.

Titus, how many times you can hydra?
And do people you hydra will die with you?

Type of info scum is interested in tbh

@ Yume

What are you trying to achieve by calling GE to your readslist?

[Dunnstral]

"Legends" has discussed reads during coffee break and has decided not to specify which hydra head feels which way. This is being done in order to avoid pocketing attempts by scum!

Legends has decided to make the following statements:

1) Legends believes Tic tac is scum.

2) Legends believes the following players are Town and has a request for them.

• @Mala
  @Gamma
  @Meerkat
  @Dunnstral
  @SirCakez replacement
  @Yume

Legends believes you're all Town. Yay!

Legends requests updated reads lists from each of you at your earliest opportunity to write one.

Thank you for your time!
-Frog

It is day 1 but there are a few things to form a read off of:

1) How people treated Mastina before the shot

It's possible mafia were planning this shot a bit in advance, in which case it is unlikely they went out of their way to call Mastina mafia. They could have possibly called Mastina town.

2) How people reacted to Mastina being shot

This includes people who did not react at all, of which there are quite a few, I believe.

3) How people reacted to Titus forming the Legends hydra

Again, this includes a lack of reaction. This is something worth commenting on, in my opinion, and not doing so means you are trying to stay away for some reason. Not including people who simply haven't posted since either of these events.

4) Augment voting

What people thought about the augments and how they voted.

5) Neighborhood management

How players have reacted to this power being available.

[Dunnstral]

I think my ideal scum is somebody who has avoided conflict with mastina, had no or low reaction to them being shot, had no or low reaction to Titus forming the Legends hydra, and have seemed generally disinterested in forming neighborhoods, or doing so only as an afterthought.

Ignoring Augment voting as there was a lot of speculation but we didn't know what the powers did.

[Dunnstral]

NDMath seems to fit all of the above criteria, and they are active enough that they didn't simply miss out.

VOTE: NDMath

[Dunnstral]

beeboy if you come back I am open to forming a neighborhood with you.

[Yume]

Hm.

Titus, how many times you can hydra?
And do people you hydra will die with you?

Type of info scum is interested in tbh

@ Yume

What are you trying to achieve by calling GE to your readslist?

Well, he asked me to provide reasons, and then didn't even bother to respond when I gave them. I want him to respond to them.

[Yume]

Same goes for Legends.

[Dunnstral]

Vivax, want to form a neighborhood?

[Vivax]

Vivax, want to form a neighborhood?

Aaye!

>>>>>>>>>

Hood request accepted

<<<<<<<<<

Should be hard to miss for the mods

[Legends]

Besides. There is a reason she was killed, so at keast one of her scumreads is right. But I am the only one who thinks like that, I guess.

That's one of the possibilities we have been considering.

1) Right reads (or soon to be right reads)

2) Kill to stop town cohesion.

I'm not going to be around as much today. Mandatory work party.

~Titus

[Dunnstral]

The Town Win Conditions is: "You win when all non-town aligned players have been eliminated"

@mod what happens if a non-town player is removed by ways other than an elimination, such as by dying during the night?

I realize that this is a pedantic question,but mastina wasn't eliminated; she

died

. If she were mafia, would town no longer be able to have eliminated all non-town players, therefore losing?

[Legends]

Dunn, that would mean scum could ruin town's ability to win by getting modkilled. Scum deaths have to be by any means necessary and legal.

~Titus

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if a player is not alive, they are "eliminated"


some hypothetical examples:

nightkilled - eliminated

daykilled - eliminated

modkilled - eliminated

disappeared into a different game but might return later - not eliminated.

joined a new account by some other mechanism - not eliminated as long as the new account is alive

[Toogeloo]

VOTE: Sara
Might be E-2, I think.

I could also vote SirCakez at this point just to save on a replacement.

Also no one answered my last question.

I think that the current motivations from all players means we should probably just end day and let any night actions help propel the game.

[Vivax]

[5]

Sara

: Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant, Toogeloo
[3]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral
[1]

beeboy

: Fredrick A Campbell
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: tictac

[10]

Not voting

: Sara, NDMath, beeboy, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, Legends

Is this correct? Hopped off the last official VC, maybe Fred is willing to help

Hammer is at 9