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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:41 pm

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just ignore me, I'm town so my reads are terrible.
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:43 pm

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On principle I sheep Townhunters unless I think they're scum or biased. Via scamper I can TR Gamma and Ydrasse by proxy. Via Ydrasse (who I'm guessing is a Townhunter) I can TR xoxelf by proxy I think.

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It would make it a lot easier to hit scum D1 if you can confirm there's an up to date list in your isos containing all of your town reads.
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:44 pm

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In post 1848, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1071, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 895, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 883, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 880, skitter30 wrote:also heya relly :)
hi! I think you're town because people scumread your entrance to the game in the same way I've seen people scumread you as town like 12 times :lol:

I don't have any strong scumreads except, like.... datisi? I sure hope the silent slots are scum
:? ppl are scum reading Skitter? Who?
No one is anymore really but multiple took issue with her entrance to the thread/her totally missing a joke. Reminds me of multiple times where skitter's serious tone has made people scumread her when she's just being skitter and trying to catch scum.
like I really don't think this happened and so I think he's just whiteknighting Skitter for ???? and it comes across as him knowing her alignment.

I mean, FB did vote Skitter but it was sorta a joke about ^^^ attacking anyone that tried to lim skitter b4 d3.
this is maybe the irrel point that i find the most convincing

i did think that read of things was weird
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:53 pm

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i think the following are town, unordered
[nero, ydra, scamper, hem, skitter/obscure slot]

im ok with treating the following as town for now, but am not as confident, also unordered
[datisi, deasvail, xofelf, ausuka, maaaybe ari]

im feeling slightly more sociable at the moment, ama while it lasts or don't idc
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:55 pm

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In post 1853, fireisredsir wrote:i think the following are town, unordered
[nero, ydra, scamper, hem, skitter/obscure slot]

im ok with treating the following as town for now, but am not as confident, also unordered
[datisi, deasvail, xofelf, ausuka, maaaybe ari]

im feeling slightly more sociable at the moment, ama while it lasts or don't idc
what was the last thing u ate?
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:56 pm

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just finished eating some garlic bread like 5 min ago, was v good
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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:58 pm

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In post 1853, fireisredsir wrote:ama while it lasts or don't idc
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 5:59 pm

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I think townhunting is quite silly since there will always be more town in a game than scum so it's like handing yourself a participation trophy.
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:00 pm

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In post 1847, scamper wrote:hi ari!
hi hi hi

In post 590, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 580, Aristeia wrote:I don't think I am scary at all but it is more interesting to be wagoned than the alternative so I'll allow it.
i think that if i share a reason that could be viewed as "bad" then you will not hesitate to tear it apart and it will weaken any ability to push you later and also might allow you to murder me if you want to do that

the simple reason is that it doesn't really feel like you're trying to sort anyone or move the game forward, but that isn't really my reason

what was your reason really?
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:00 pm

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In post 1856, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1853, fireisredsir wrote:ama while it lasts or don't idc
Thoughts on ConmanMick?
wagon there is fine. nothing really pinged me from his posts but i think the point about him maybe overexaggerating his understanding of the game is perhaps at least decent
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:01 pm

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In post 1855, fireisredsir wrote:just finished eating some garlic bread like 5 min ago, was v good
nicw, i havent had garlic bread in ages
In post 1851, Frogsterking wrote:@scamper @Ydrasse

It would make it a lot easier to hit scum D1 if you can confirm there's an up to date list in your isos containing all of your town reads.
will do, but i want to sleep on things a bit first
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:05 pm

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In post 1858, Aristeia wrote:what was your reason really?
there were multiple and i thought they were all kinda bad but i believed in them anyway

one was that i thought datisi's response to you asking if he was town felt like a similar vibe to the way he responded to you in lake melancholy and i remembered you townreading him for that (altho you said it was a bad reason). and that was like the only town game he's played in decades and you were right

ik you wouldn't be able to use exactly the same reasoning again bc he was made aware of it, but still it felt like your reaction here was kinda just... flat? routine? like you weren't really interested in investigating the answer

i think there were others ill go look and see if i can remember
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:07 pm

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oh another thing was what i already talked about with being confused why you just kinda let nero make a bad point and dropped it and moved somewhere else

but i think i actually kinda townread that now
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:08 pm

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In post 1859, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1856, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1853, fireisredsir wrote:ama while it lasts or don't idc
Thoughts on ConmanMick?
wagon there is fine. nothing really pinged me from his posts but i think the point about him maybe overexaggerating his understanding of the game is perhaps at least decent
Do you think VP and Datisi are the same alignment?
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:08 pm

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and your entrance overall just felt very lifeless and obligatory

maybe cause datisi wasn't here
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:09 pm

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In post 1863, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1859, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1856, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1853, fireisredsir wrote:ama while it lasts or don't idc
Thoughts on ConmanMick?
wagon there is fine. nothing really pinged me from his posts but i think the point about him maybe overexaggerating his understanding of the game is perhaps at least decent
Do you think VP and Datisi are the same alignment?
i don't feel especially s/s vibes from them. beyond that i don't know
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:11 pm

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what bad point and how would she stop me?
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:13 pm

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my gut is telling me there are some things you are leaving out of this explanation that have to do with you knowing what my alignment is this game but my gut is often wrong so I will let it slide <3
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:14 pm

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In post 1866, Nero Cain wrote:what bad point and how would she stop me?
i think was bad (from a logic standpoint, not an alignment standpoint) and i expected ari as town to take issue with it. i don't really agree with the point anymore anyway and don't have much interest in going into it further
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:14 pm

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In post 1865, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1863, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1859, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1856, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1853, fireisredsir wrote:ama while it lasts or don't idc
Thoughts on ConmanMick?
wagon there is fine. nothing really pinged me from his posts but i think the point about him maybe overexaggerating his understanding of the game is perhaps at least decent
Do you think VP and Datisi are the same alignment?
i don't feel especially s/s vibes from them. beyond that i don't know
Oh yeah, last question, any thoughts on dannflor's entrance?
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:16 pm

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In post 1867, Aristeia wrote:my gut is telling me there are some things you are leaving out of this explanation that have to do with you knowing what my alignment is this game but my gut is often wrong so I will let it slide <3
wouldn't be a town game from you without you misreading me again <3
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:18 pm

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In post 1869, Frogsterking wrote:Oh yeah, last question, any thoughts on dannflor's entrance?
it was fine

the parts that seemed to bother some people didn't bother me, and i kinda like the GL vote, but i still probably lean slightly scum on the slot overall

im ok with seeing what he does for now
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:20 pm

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In post 1871, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 1869, Frogsterking wrote:Oh yeah, last question, any thoughts on dannflor's entrance?
it was fine

the parts that seemed to bother some people didn't bother me, and i kinda like the GL vote, but i still probably lean slightly scum on the slot overall

im ok with seeing what he does for now
Huh? I interpret this as saying you town lean dann but scum read eira and lean scum on the slot overall.
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:23 pm

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i had a baseline scumlean on the slot. i think dann is good at looking towny as scum, so he has a higher bar he needs to clear for me to call it a townlean, but it pushed the needle slightly in the null/town direction
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:28 pm

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In post 652, Irrelephant11 wrote:VOTE: VP Baltar
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