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[Aristeia]

I kinda think Dann is just town from skimming his entry again but not like something very certain.

[ConManMick]

Ebwop or whatever - I agree with 1599

[Datisi]

What's your opinion on aristeia? You know her better than me, tell me what you think of her play vs what you expect to see and all that jazz

i made a readslist a few pages ago!!!

tldr she can be either lazy town or lazy scum rn. slightly leaning town based on vibes but only slightly. if she's scum, hear team is probably doing at least okay which is why she isn't trying to brute force stuff.

i will keep you updated if something happens that makes me read her more strongly one way or another.

[scamper]

Has anyone who is scum reading elephant done a meta dive on them?

i took a look but his scum games are all 3+ years old and there's no obvious differences or tells, he's fairly competent at the alignment. any research at this point is probably just going to reaffirm my existing biases


hes still my only scumread of significance tbh. i have some theories on other people but theyre weak and ive cooled on cmm being scum even if others disagree

[ConManMick]

What's your opinion on aristeia? You know her better than me, tell me what you think of her play vs what you expect to see and all that jazz

i made a readslist a few pages ago!!!

tldr she can be either lazy town or lazy scum rn. slightly leaning town based on vibes but only slightly. if she's scum, hear team is probably doing at least okay which is why she isn't trying to brute force stuff.

i will keep you updated if something happens that makes me read her more strongly one way or another.

That's my bad dude I keep coming I here lit

[Gamma Emerald]

What's your opinion on aristeia? You know her better than me, tell me what you think of her play vs what you expect to see and all that jazz

i made a readslist a few pages ago!!!

tldr she can be either lazy town or lazy scum rn. slightly leaning town based on vibes but only slightly. if she's scum, hear team is probably doing at least okay which is why she isn't trying to brute force stuff.

i will keep you updated if something happens that makes me read her more strongly one way or another.

I feel like I’ve seen someone describe me like this in a game once
Was it you?

[scamper]

I kinda think Dann is just town from skimming his entry again but not like something very certain.

ari do u have people u want to vote? im meh on wagoning cmm now

[Nero Cain]

I thought conman's opening salvo was fine so I kinda was gut town on him. I really hated the wagon on him and thought it was scum driven.

I did feel like his second group of posts wasn't as good and I thought "hrmmm" but that's just FOMO.

[Aristeia]

I kind of think CMM is mafia but if you want to change to someone else I am happy to sheep you

[Aristeia]

firebringer or baltar? I'm not sure are you trying to pressure to solve or just consolidate for an elim?

[scamper]

I kind of think CMM is mafia but if you want to change to someone else I am happy to sheep you

firebringer or baltar? I'm not sure are you trying to pressure to solve or just consolidate for an elim?

just checking to see if we have reads we agree on, had forgotten whether your vote on conman was a sheep vote or not. i dont have any scumreads im strongly confident in, i cld vote vpb if there was a pivot to him

[Aristeia]

Spoiler: his comments

the egos who think they're beyond being elimmed

who is this comment about?

Pedit yeah maybe it wasn't a nice way to say it but all that shit you have to say about your fantastic leading games from the back of your own wagon just rubs me the wrong way

so I thought it didn't make a lot of sense for you to push me to sort me in this game because I don't think anyone's really caught me as scum by wagoning me.

I don't think you would think of me as a scum player who can be sorted with pressure or solved with pressure.

in fact it's almost dangerous in a way to push scum me because I am fairly decent at looking

good

and gaining thread control by getting people to vote for me I think.

and this is something you're

aware of

because you stated you didn't want to give me reasoning for the push because you are worried scum me can just judo flip you and kill you easily because ripping apart bad cases is very easy for me and people here have seen me do it as town to scum and mercilessly kill them. You would be essentially giving me the tools to kill you if I was scum with very little gain or upside for yourself. You can't get me to be yeeted without providing very solid reasoning and you don't have the reasoning or ammo to put into the push.

So why would you push me here if you suspect I'm scum? I actually kind of think you wouldn't if you thought I was scum because you simply don't have the thread influence or reasoning to make a push that is likely to kill me and if you're not likely to kill me then why do I even care? You're basically giving me free weapons and making me look better atp.

Like I don't know what your intent here is but it just rankles me, it reads like "don't try to sort me because I am simply too good at this game" and maybe I'm just missing context from your previous game that you're referencing, but when I see those kind of "a wagon on me is useless" posts it just makes me want to hit the big red button.

I guess my issue with his thought process here is that I don't think he organically comes up with this on his own as he's never really played with me like ever?

I have a theory that someone in the scum pt told CMM that he wasn't going to get me limmed so he should just move his vote somewhere else and do something useful and that's where his frustration with me stems from.

I'm not sure it's frustration rooted in "ari is scum and nobody believes me" so much as frustration in "she's playing so badly and scummily but nobody wants to vote her" and the later feels like more of a scum thought process to me.

I don't feel that certain about this so I'm p ok with voting somewhere else if you want to do something else.

[Aristeia]

my readlist is around here rn:

town mayor:

scamper

angels:

Ari, Ausuka, Marci, Ydrasse



Probably Good:

Gamma, HEM, Nero, Frogster, GuiltyLion, Obscure, xof,

Null+:

Dann, Relly,

Idk:

Deasvail

groupscum:

datisi, vpb, fireisredsir, conmanmick

mafia traitor:

firebringer

this is mostly where i'm at now.

[Frogsterking]

Dann: I like you, like a ton. I think your entrance was pretty okay and it's not really pinging me bad the same way it seems to be other people, but some of those people I like and trust their opinions aren't sure on you, so I wanna just look at you closer under that lens. But I'm not so sure about you that I want to vote you. Also who you replaced was just null af IMO.

I think this is maybe the most favorable assessment of dann coming within the towncore IIRC and it's biased in favor of dann because xoxo writes "I like you, like a ton."

[fireisredsir]

something about vp's assessment of the wagons rubbed me the wrong way a bit but i haven't seen much else that i feel strongly about for him

[Irrelephant11]

I kind of think CMM is mafia but if you want to change to someone else I am happy to sheep you

Still very sick so I’m just reading the last page as a way to continue to be in this game. This post reminds me of town Aristeia in the boat party game, deferentially trying to help someone she thought should be town leader but still having unique reads. Idk this is my one brain cell trying to make a read. Back to sleep now

[Ausuka]

Yeah I guess you're asking me more about marci as a person here rather than the generic player in the game and I don't know marci like that. I do t have a meta read or whatever, on most of the players here in fact, so I'm gonna deal with what's in front of me. And what's in front of me reads at best as a sort of vague indifference ranging to posting for the sake of being seen, and that just strikes me as anti town.

I know it's not a meta read. I guess what I'm getting is that Marci doing one liners seems pretty blatantly NAI for her - I really don't think anyone posts one liners specifically as scum only - and I find it difficult to believe it's a real read for you. I'm asking you to clarify why you believe Marci would play differently as town, even if you think she's behaving in an anti town way.

[Datisi]

I feel like I’ve seen someone describe me like this in a game once
Was it you?

i have zero impressions of your scumgame so it was not me

i kinda don't wanna yeet baltar solely because i feel like he gets more readable as the game goes on, but we can't do that if he's yeeted. and i am thinking he might be scum rn but like i always think that early on. yes i am aware that this does not help the concerns that we're scumbuddies that ari has but what can you do really.

for the record i don't think ari's tinfoil theory on conman is very likely to be true, *however* it does touch into my problems with the dude, in that his emotions kinda mismatch with his actions and reads. like idk, 2245 feels weird because why is he being snarky towards me? i'm not voting him, (even if i was, the post still doesn't make sense,) he didn't have a townread on dann, and the post itself would make you think that he has been pushing a scumcase on someone for like 3 years but even after i poke him about it, he says basically nothing about aristeia.

[Nero Cain]

I've seen you post like this as town. But I think I've also seen you post like this as scum

See, it's not just me. Most players are going to be similar regardless of alignment b/c it the same user posting. I also believe that a lot of players will try to blend their games and make themselves not super easy to read. But it's not like I scum read you or anyone for not having a similar style of play as to me. Still think you are scum in this game though, Gamma.

[DeasVail]

UNVOTE:

[DeasVail]

Idk:

Deasvail

<3

[marcistar]

VOTE: gamma

[Nero Cain]

bye marci, ty for finally voting

[marcistar]

thank u i worked very hard on that vote im on my way to work rn

[DeasVail]

[Ausuka, scamper, xofelf, ydrasse]
[HEM, Aristeia, fireisred, obscure, relly]
[Datisi, Dannflor, Firebringer]
[Nero Cain, VP Baltar, GuiltyLion, Frogsterking]
[Gamma, Marci, Conman]