In post 1939, Datisi wrote:
ausuka
- basically this slot is town lmao. like, i think their read on me and suspicion on me makes sense. the things they've been calling me out for (e.g. me ~defusing scumreads~) are a bit contrived, but they're also the correct creativity level that i'd expect after that recent micro. the rest of their reads ~make sense~, the interaction with marcistar is fine in both content and tone, their engagement levels are still what i'd expect of them from town. so, like. could ausuka be playing a Correct Scum Game on all fronts? sure, theoretically. am i going to catch that today if that's the case? very likely not.
I am not an ausuka whisperer since we maybe have 1 game together? This might even be our first, IDK. I definitely felt bad vibes from her early on like she was pulling reads out of thin air, but I don't feel confident in that read being so far behind. Curious why you think Ausuka can't play an effective scum game.
frogsterking
- *opens iso* *sees 57 posts since him repping in* *closes iso*
in all seriousness, the vibe i got from his scumplay is that he *does not want to be there* and the vibe i get from his townplay is the exact opposite. the actual reads he has as town are usually batshit insane to me so i probably won't be judging him by that metric, but. obviously i won't be locking this read yet, because it has not been even 24 hours, but i have faith that frogsterking will be making his alignment increasingly obvious over time. and if frogster dies and baltar got his alignment wrong, we are instantly yeeting baltar. that understood? good.
scamper
- vaguely judging him by meta, i *think* he's town. i don't sense aggression that i kinda did in his scum game. i think scum!him wouldn't have tried to break up fights like he did here. case on irrel was really good and made sense, in my (probs biased) opinion. many of his townreads / defenses (e.g. me in early game) feel like something he doesn't make as scum bc i feel like it would benefit him more for those to just keep happening rather than him stepping in. like, i feel like this stuff is all something he *could* fake, but on balance i don't think it's overly likely he is rn.
I don't have scamper meta either. I would say your town read feels stronger than I'd commit there.
humaneatingmonkey
- the main reason why i'm townreading this slot if because his thoughts on me and around me make sense, see my
1343. otherwise, this seems like a... quiet-town game from him. what i mean is, i don't get the feeling that he's trying to brute force or shitpush things through, and i feel like there were several moments he could've gone more aggressive (like on his push on me) and did not do that. and my impression of him as a scum player is that he *would* have done that. so i'm fine lowkey townbinning him for now.
guiltylion
- pain pain pain pain. i wanted this to be a scumread, i really did, but i don't think it is. like.
1409,
1511, and the points on dannflor i all actually *like*. and i know that guiltylion sees things differently from me sometimes, and that i sometimes scumread him because "why are we not mindmelding on every single fucking thing in the game" but that's not a good metric probably. so like. he can be town for now. i'l re-evaluate him in the later days. if i'm dead n1 he's prob scum tho :3
fireisredsir
- i like the find on eira, i like the openness he was posting with wrt his own emotions, and i feel like "as scum, there's stuff to do but as town there's not" is something i am more likely to hear from town (when the person who's saying that is good at scum). i am fine townbinning him for now, i feel like the ~waviness~ is +town, but god knows i don't remember shit from invictus so this is another "take it with a grain of salt" read.
I'd say I'm about in the same place with fire. Biggest thing giving me pause is he is reading me correctly, so...
vp baltar
- every bone in my body is telling me to yeet him, which is about standard as either alignment so whatever.
1310 is veering into TSTBS territory for me. maybe. because "hehehoho i have 3 scumreads and zero townreads" is such a fucking. horrible take that i feel like scum just Doesn't hit submit on a post like that. i hate the way he's playing around me bc it feels like he's afraid to either townread or scumread me because he knows that i am gonna be all over his read if i deem that it's not what i imagine it has to be, and guessing THAT is basically impossible because not even i know what i think it should be right now. but uh, giving this a bit more time until he's a little bit less busy i guess, but. idk. pain.
nero cain
- i have a crackpot theory that
1741 is informed, because we semi-recently played a game with 19 players and 5 scum, so that feels off, but other than that. this feels lightly town. no, i don't have any good reasons other than "vibes". his play feels like pushing the game in the direction that he seems to be pro-town, but not in a way to give off an appearance of solving without actual solving. does that make sense. and nothing he's posted has yet made me feel like something is wrong. the one caveat i have here is that (afair) both times i played with nero, he was town, and he was getting into some shitfigths and i don't feel like he's entered a proper one yet. yes i know that is pretty weak, but.
I can get down with about all of this.
aristeia
- i already see she's not going to be a fan of her own placing, but it is what it is. she's lightly town for ~quiet solving~ and seemingly not being forceful in this game (e.g. sheeping other people), because i know her scumgame is more forceful and she's not afraid to push things when she needs to. the obvious * is that, if the game is going well for her already, she doesn't *need* to push things anywhere. and i haven't yet felt like she's obvtowned herself via solving. so. can be slightly +town for now, i guess.
Maybe? Ari is pretty dead null for me, which isn't great. I'm not sure why she is so reserved this game. I could as easily see an argument that scum with a lot of good players in the game is more gun shy as I could see the town argument you're making. Not a slot I'm worried about having feelings on today is probably my biggest feeling.
ydrasse
- "hold on, ydrasse has more than 100 posts?" is the first thing i thought of because i don't remember almost any of them. don't think that's actually scum!indicative for ydra as i said for someone like gamma, tho, bc i know scum!ydra can Post when she wants to post, and that town!ydra is sometimes flaky.
1891 is something i liked, because i can't sense any immediate scum agenda from them, and they overall Make Sense. (the one thing i may be kinda worried about is the fact she seems to townread me without interacting much with me, but we're out of the early game where i was getting lolscumread so i don't think it's an especially useful or successful pocket attempt, if so. maybe it is if i'm falling for it like this. anyway.) i have also learned that i don't really know how to read ydrasse so this is another one of "will think about this later" reads but yeah ok
firebringer
- he ended up in the town side of the triangle?? anyway, i still dislike the early stuff that i said earlier, but like. am i stupid for townreading a post like 1783? maybe i am, i don't know. i don't know why i feel like firebringer would've reacted differently to that post, but i just *do*. obviously, jury's still out on this one and i'll give an updated read here once he's properly in the game, but here we are for now.
Scum read for me early that I need to revisit and see if they posted anything better.
marcistar
- this is town purely on (1) vibes; (2) idea that scum-marci would be giving out at least *some* sorta reads rather than purely shitposting. and i agree with ausuka that the earlier emotional posts were townie. (inb4 "why did you say you thought scum-her would push on you" i wanted to see her reaction to it if i did that. no, the reaction wasn't interesting. inb4 "datisi are you cleverly defusing scumreads on you again" shut up ausuka i'm town this game stop trying to make scumtisi happen it's not going to happen)
agree. Also, I don't see how you're agreeing that GL has a legit viewpoint on scum reading this slot. I think at worst you'd call null here.
obscure
- i feel like he's lowkey townie. i don't *like* a lot of his reads, but i feel like that can be explained with him not being familiar with the site meta and w/e. iguess his posts overall give me a feeling of pureness? also, i feel like the "if i die, i want to have my thoughts out" is a kind of townie thought to have. idk.
We're arriving at the same read for different reasons here.
deasvail
- i think he's lightly town for the townread on me, both for the content and the timing of it. nothing else jumps out at me much.
I have a stronger town read on DV for the way he's mixing it up with folks.
xof
- slightly town. very close to "true null" to me, but slightly veering into town. might be because i really *want* them to be town, but. the things that they're choosing to focus on make sense to me, and it overall gives off the feeling that they're just doing their own thing. the thing i'm probably most interested in right now is their updated read on me, but for now they can stay in this position.
We're in about the same confidence level here. I don't know how to read xofelf, but they're ok to me.
gamma emerald
- god, this iso feels *boring*. i'm putting her at slightly-scum because i gathered literally nothing that jumped at me from that iso that interested me at all, and that's probably scummy. idk i'll think about this slot when there's something to think about.
I could see this. I would add the level of emotion actually feels kind of dead to me and given how much pressure they've been under at times, I feel like I'd expect more reactionary lashing out from a town!gamma.
dannflor
- eh. i don't like the read on frosterking. i don't like the read on guilty. i'm gonna give this a bit more time b/c i know it's annoying when people are jumping at you right out of the game, but. not a fan, currently.
I've addressed my read here. I'm less sold on the frogster thing than most I think, mostly because of personal bias of having the same reax. Good reminder that I need to check if Dann responded to me asking about them playing together before though.
conmanmick
- meeeh, his entrance feels like a textbook scum entrance. like he is giving reads, but none of them are actually interesting. and something about him having just three townreads (me/nero/gl) feels off? especially when the reasoning for that seems to be a minimal "they do be solving" reasoning.
this reads to me like we drew the same points from his posts, but you gave more weight to the shit reads and I gave more weight to the "this guy hasn't played with many of these people and is misreading personality as scumminess." Maybe I'm being too generous here, but his points strike me as bad because he doesn't know what he's talking about rather than an agenda.
irrel
- i've talked about my issues with his read on me already. i didn't like the post where he was like "i love when the wagon is on town, makes vca easier", first because it reads like fake bravado, second because i don't get the feeling he's actually done any vca. what's giving me pause is the recent vent-posting, because i feel like that *usually* comes from town, but good scum definitely can replicate it so it's not a greta point but it still is giving me pause.
a read I keep avoiding going to the ISO well for. fuck if I know. I actually didn't mind his push on you. Still on my to-do list forever because I don't wanna
