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[Klick]

Hey Greeting why didn't you die last night

Might as well stick it on the top of the page

[Greeting]

Hey Greeting why didn't you die last night

That's a great question, why don't you ask

Eiralox

?

[Ausuka]

I mean eliminating an uncc'd pr can be a good idea I think

I don't think it is, in this case specifically

[Eiralox]

Hey Greeting why didn't you die last night

That's a great question, why don't you ask

Eiralox

?

maybe ur immortal

[Ausuka]

greeting is actually a town simple disloyal bulletproof

[Greeting]

Hey Greeting why didn't you die last night

That's a great question, why don't you ask

Eiralox

?

maybe ur immortal

It doesn't say so in my PM. Fun idea though, Bulletproof Cop. Wonder how many strong PRs the mafia would need to have for a game with a Bulletproof Cop to be balanced.

[Ausuka]

bulletproof cop
2-shot vigilante
jailkeeper
vt x 7

strongman
universal backup
ascetic

this feels balanced-ish and sort of fun if gimmicky but haven't thought about it too hard

[Eiralox]

So I was making my morning tea and something suddenly dawned on me, in these exact words: "Why the fuck is Hutmeil not on Greeting?"

Hutmeil claimed he scum reads Greeting in #850, and there are just a few hours left in the day. Why isn't he voting him? The only other person in his stated POE who even has a vote is BBT, who is at 1.

i thought about it before and chalked it up to wariness/disengagement/unsurity. hopmeil is a gandhi.

Oh.

[Mapuche Never Die]

Nero seems very stuck in a tunnel.

Eiralox (3):

Mapuche Never Die

, Greeting, Nero Cain

!!!

…okay, that doesn’t mean my post is scummy

[Mapuche Never Die]

Nero is saying questionable reasons for scumreading Eiralox, I still scumread Eiralox, and I don’t scumread Nero.

[Mapuche Never Die]

VLA BETWEEN THE 7TH AND 9TH

[Mapuche Never Die]

VOTE: Greeting

I want to test the claim.

How does limming greeting test the claim

[Mapuche Never Die]

VOTE: Greeting

I want to test the claim.

Hey Greeting why didn't you die last night

I don’t like this post at all. There are a million different reasons why scum would want to kill furtive over town!Greeting, and this post implies that scum!Klick killed furtive to frame Greeting.

[Ausuka]

that would be impressive since klick wasn't in the game on night 1

[Ausuka]

although now that i think about it

@klick, in frog images your scumteam left kittytacky alive in a similar situation - a suspected but powerful PR claim

why would you expect this game to be different to that

[Mapuche Never Die]

that would be impressive since klick wasn't in the game on night 1

My point still stands - the scum team thought that Greeting was a likely lim so they kept Greeting alive

[Ausuka]

i mean, i agree they probably did do that - i don't think the kill could have been made with the intent for klick to frame greeting, although i guess it's possible klick is just making the best of what arguments he has available. i'm sure scum would love to not have to use a kill on greeting

i vaguely like most of klick's actual content since replacing in but obviously would still like to see more

[Klick]

VOTE: Greeting

I want to test the claim.

Hey Greeting why didn't you die last night

I don’t like this post at all. There are a million different reasons why scum would want to kill furtive over town!Greeting, and this post implies that scum!Klick killed furtive to frame Greeting.

although now that i think about it

@klick, in frog images your scumteam left kittytacky alive in a similar situation - a suspected but powerful PR claim

why would you expect this game to be different to that

The main difference here is that Greeting finds Mafia Goons and literally claimed on D1 'I am going to investigate Crescent' who was a Mafia Goon

If Greeting is town, the scumteam willingly let a guilty go through on them to instead kill furtiveglance

[Frogsterking]

VOTE: BBT this seems like a better compromise then.

[Klick]

And I'm not saying that's not possible. But I don't currently understand why that would happen

[DeltaWave]

VOTE: Greeting

I want to test the claim.

Is voting to eliminate an uncc'd PR wise?

there are several things i dislike about this reply

Like what?

alright. where do i start, because there's a lot.

1. the overall self-preservation tone of this post
2. your argument relies solely on the fact that you haven't been counter-claimed instead of anything of any real substance
3. feels like there's potentially some fishing for a counter-claim
4. your post 1068 - "I consider myself to be a rather intelligent person, but I'm not smart enough to make such a sophisticated fake claim, honestly. I would need to have someone from my team invent it for me (10% effort) and then successfully convince me to use it (90% effort), which overall makes it highly improbable." this lengthy explanation as to how you could never ever come up with such an elaborate fakeclaim raises my eyebrows. you echoed the same sentiment in 1246, where you say that you are "town cleared" because of your "very unlikely to fake claim."
5. you refused to provide a reads list in 1258 and said you would if you survive to d3. again, more self-preservation stuff that doesn't actually assist scumhunting
6. your claim hasn't actually confirmed anything because crescent died at night.
7. your post 1260 - "My guess is that there are no more Mafia Goons in this game and so my role isn't a threat to the mafia anymore." it feels like you're setting yourself up to get no-reads later on. the type of cop you claimed would get "no result" on a townie or a mafia PR, so you could conceivably report "no result" every night without repercussions.
8. if your current operating theory is that your power is not a threat to mafia, the "you can't lim me because nobody counter-claimed me" argument becomes way weaker.
9. you seem to assume that a day lim is the only way to lim you, since apparently you value getting through the day over actually providing scumreads (see point 5, and well a whole bunch of other points too.)

what it boils down to is that you've largely been doing self-preservation stuff and resting on the "no counterclaim" argument as if that's open and shut, which it really isn't

i feel like if you really were a cop you'd be doing the best you can to participate as much as you can, since you are an obvious NK target. this is in contrast to point 5 above, where you said you'd only provide a list of reads if you're alive in d3.

p-edit: Im fine with BBT today

[DeltaWave]

i really think you should provide some scumreads greeting

[Ausuka]

I mean that is definitely a good point and it's possible greeting is, like, an informed mafioso or something weird like that?

I didn't get the vibe crescent and greeting were partners but maybe I need to review

[Ausuka]

For some reason I was thinking that scum greeting wouldn't lock himself to targeting Crescent but like

d1 scum had no reason to think anything would happen to crescent so it'd make sense for him to do that actually

hmm

still wanna hear from nk15 but this is making me reconsider

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: BBT this seems like a better compromise then.

Bad OMGUS is bad.