LOST (Game Over)

[ProfessorDrapion]

I said my last post would be... my last, but I'll make an exception as I don't expect you all to casually connect the dots here.

Here is my theory: scum have an ability to cause a player to flip scum. Scum which includes Drapion used it on us last night (or at some point in the game). Drapion then fake claims a guilty on us to seal a free mislim, and we flip scum because of the ability. That ability would be the bastard element because we are aligned with the town. Drapion then coasts to victory. It would probably explain Drapion's reluctance to state their result. They were probably double-checking to make sure they didn't mess anything up. As farfetched as my theory may sound, I think it's bastard enough for the mod to advertise the game as having (nontrivial*) bastard elements while not being overly bastard. I also think it matches with this game not having role pms flip.

I guess the only alternate explanation is scum (which doesn't include Drapion) have an ability to tracker-frame someone, and they used it last night on us to score a free mislim on both us and Drapion. It's a possibility, but I honestly don't think it's likely. Drapion's claim has had issues throughout the game of choosing poor tracks even despite the Bella track.

Option 3 is scum Drapion is confident their partner can coast to victory. It's plausible, but I'm not sure that even Drapion has the guts to do that with two alive masons and a fairly solid PoE. It still would make me wonder though why Drapion would guilty us here when they could probably still get our lim without a guilty. After all, they could always claim our partner made the kill (and that would almost certainly be true).

(* - It has to be nontrivial otherwise the moderator would have probably specified precisely what the bastard element was or could be.)

This is truly my last post. Good luck once again.
~Cytosine

I am town and I am Tracker and I am probably going to be miss executed but please read Option 3 and then ask yourself if I would actually do it as a wolf. (Cause I wouldn’t do such a bad wolf play for an easy ML like that.)

[ProfessorDrapion]

Dude if I was going to do Option 3 it would be on someone like Pooky.

[Noraa]

Pooky who is drap's partner if drap is scum?

[ProfessorDrapion]

That’s the kinda wolf I am.
I go big or go home.
I don’t waste my life pushing a slot that’s an easy ML.

[ProfessorDrapion]

VOTE: unvote

I should probably not throw lol.
But let’s just use this time to discuss things. As I made it very clear I think Butterflies is a wolf.

[Noraa]

Dude if I was going to do Option 3 it would be on someone like Pooky.

pooky is immortal. guilties cant hurt him :3 based on what gamestate looks like right now, this argument doesn't stand too well.

[ProfessorDrapion]

GTH I think I may have miss cleared your slot and I legit wolf sided hard day 1 for your slot and your wolves with Butterflies.
But I can also see Butterflies with Hook.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I think Johnny is still only a wolf if it’s with Your Slot or Hook.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I don’t think Butterflies/Best Bird/ML Bait/Pooky are a wolf with Johnny.

[ProfessorDrapion]

Tracking us would have cleared some paranoia from multitasking suggestions

~GE

Hmm actually idk if this can be a wolf.

I’d always go Butterflies over this any day.


VOTE: Butterflies

[ProfessorDrapion]

I understand so why is Drap voting you then?

He claimed he was going to track you but no explanation, just a vote.

^^^^^^
Like this is wolf with TMI.

[ProfessorDrapion]

@Pooky
@Hook
@BestBird

I mean it’s fine if you vote me out, cause it does seem like a jerk move to do I’ll admit.
But trust me on Butterflies here.

[JohnnyFarrar]

MONNNNNNNNNNN I SAW YOU ON THE LIST AND I WAS LIKE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSS
kookie monster been inactive so long D:

When I popped in a couple months ago yours was the first name I looked for :')

[ProfessorDrapion]

If you ask me why I didn’t track Butterflies it’s because I really wanted to check Pooky and I checked Butterflies before and I didn’t know who they would be wolves with.
I’m still not 100% but I’m pretty confident Pooky is town here.

[ProfessorDrapion]

MONNNNNNNNNNN I SAW YOU ON THE LIST AND I WAS LIKE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSS
kookie monster been inactive so long D:

When I popped in a couple months ago yours was the first name I looked for :')

Johnny what’s your thoughts?

[ProfessorDrapion]

If your town and don’t want to be ML’ed your gonna need to start sharing them!

[butterflies]

I mean I tracked them to CSF but here’s my full tracks, I’m pretty sure this is the correct order from memory of submission:
CSF - No Result
Bella - Wolf
BestBird - No Visit
MisLim - No Visit
Butterflies - No Visit
Butters (Mason Claim) - No Visit
Blue - Visited Me
G&C - Visited CSF

You not only outright lied with your track on DNA, you also mixed up the order of your BBT and mason track.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I feel bad for voting you because I think you're a pretty good player with a fun style, but no way I trust you here anymore, drap.

Other than that, my vote would probably go on pooky. I think Malcolm only makes the kill when csf jailed them because the remaining scum can't risk a guilty at this stage, and I think pooky fits that bill. Otherwise I'm just entirely wrong on one of my townreads

[butterflies]

Tracking us would have cleared some paranoia from multitasking suggestions

~GE

Hmm actually idk if this can be a wolf.

I’d always go Butterflies over this any day.


VOTE: Butterflies

I understand so why is Drap voting you then?

He claimed he was going to track you but no explanation, just a vote.

^^^^^^
Like this is wolf with TMI.

@Pooky
@Hook
@BestBird

I mean it’s fine if you vote me out, cause it does seem like a jerk move to do I’ll admit.
But trust me on Butterflies here.

You really don’t care what you have to do to self-pres, lie push repeated miselims. I’m happy with my vote.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my poe is down to drapion - johnnyfarrar - off the hooook

[butterflies]

If C&G is town, kill Drapion tomorrow, don't let him talk his way out of it

. We might have to re-assess the POE a bit from there, since we're down one kill. I do somewhat believe C&G because it doesn't make much sense for C&G to be the one to carry out the kill with two scum left and Drapion already claimed that they were going to track there. We obviously still have to kill C&G first, though. Maybe Drapion knew that if he didn't die tonight, he would be outed, and so he might as well take someone with him. Hard to say. It's also possible that the 5th mafia cannot carry out the kill for some reason. They could have some ability that prevents them from killing. Traitor would probably make mafia too weak, so I doubt that would be it.

~Nancyfly

[ProfessorDrapion]

I mean I tracked them to CSF but here’s my full tracks, I’m pretty sure this is the correct order from memory of submission:
CSF - No Result
Bella - Wolf
BestBird - No Visit
MisLim - No Visit
Butterflies - No Visit
Butters (Mason Claim) - No Visit
Blue - Visited Me
G&C - Visited CSF

You not only outright lied with your track on DNA, you also mixed up the order of your BBT and mason track.

Yet you call it out now? Lol.

I also said memory of submission implying I wasn’t 100% sure.

[ProfessorDrapion]

my poe is down to drapion - johnnyfarrar - off the hooook

Again, vote Butterflies.

[ProfessorDrapion]

If C&G is town, kill Drapion tomorrow, don't let him talk his way out of it

. We might have to re-assess the POE a bit from there, since we're down one kill. I do somewhat believe C&G because it doesn't make much sense for C&G to be the one to carry out the kill with two scum left and Drapion already claimed that they were going to track there. We obviously still have to kill C&G first, though. Maybe Drapion knew that if he didn't die tonight, he would be outed, and so he might as well take someone with him. Hard to say. It's also possible that the 5th mafia cannot carry out the kill for some reason. They could have some ability that prevents them from killing. Traitor would probably make mafia too weak, so I doubt that would be it.

~Nancyfly

Yeah I’m aware and wolves took that as an advantage, why do you think I self voted?

[ProfessorDrapion]

I feel bad for voting you because I think you're a pretty good player with a fun style, but no way I trust you here anymore, drap.

Other than that, my vote would probably go on pooky. I think Malcolm only makes the kill when csf jailed them because the remaining scum can't risk a guilty at this stage, and I think pooky fits that bill. Otherwise I'm just entirely wrong on one of my townreads

I think Butterflies also fits that bill and also showed TMI.