Mini Normal 2279: VGSR - GAME OVER

[Ausuka]

I mean
1) I do not think normals are designed to meet expectations and sometimes mods design setups that violate those expectations just for the sake of doing so

2) even if that were the case I do not think a setup with 3 goons really violates expectations?? I think that's rather normal?

[Frogsterking]

I mean
1) I do not think normals are designed to meet expectations and sometimes mods design setups that violate those expectations just for the sake of doing so

2) even if that were the case I do not think a setup with 3 goons really violates expectations?? I think that's rather normal?

I think you're making good points that aren't shutting down what I'm saying. I'm willing to accept that my argument Delta benefitted the most from the NK is

unorthodox

and I'm not willing to accept that it's

bad

...yet.

[Frogsterking]

*emotionally reacts*

I'm at the movie theaters, I'm about to watch Bodies Bodies Bodies

Was good by the way

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm so far behind in this game it's not even funny.

I'll try at some point today.

[DeltaWave]

And why would you make that assumption?

i have a feeling that frog has some good insights into the composition of the scumteam, which is how he can make this assumption.

basically what frog is doing today is a mirror of what he did with ausuka yesterday: decide his target, work backwards to create an obviously fabricated case, and see if it gains traction. it didn't with ausuka yesterday, so he moved on.

i take note of the various tactics frog uses to distance himself from his own arguments. for example, frog talks about how greeting called his play "bad townplay" and then described it as "wise of him." (post 1618.) how can frog make these ultra-confident posts and then also think it's wise to describe him as engaging in bad townplay. it doesn't make sense, unless frog knows he's wrong and wants to establish that he's just generally off-target as a matter of course. in the past, frog has gone very far out of his way to describe himself as engaging in "confbias" (see post 666, 696... or just search his ISO for the word confbias. It comes up a lot, all in reference to himself.) again, distancing himself from his own actions so he can be like "ooops i confbiased too hard lol" when i flip town.

i still haven't heard how (1) shading him as my #2 counts as a pocket attempt and (2) how i lied on the survey. these are probably the most absurd angles aside from the "how could anyone but dw decide to nk a cop" which is just silly.

the greeting stuff is also funny because as ausuka pointed out, frog went pretty hard on greeting yesterday - both sussing him and voting him to "test his claim."

[Frogsterking]

Wolfy pop-ins spotted

[DeltaWave]

it's funny how you don't even try to defend your complete stretch of a case

[DeltaWave]

kind of interesting how one of furtive's last acts was to place frog at the top of the scumlist

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Where we at with votes?

[Frogsterking]

Where we at with votes?

We're pretty close to mis-hammer time if you'd like to do the honors.

[Frogsterking]

i have a feeling that frog has some good insights into the composition of the scumteam, which is how he can make this assumption.

This is starting to reach too-scummy-to-be-scum territory for me, I feel like scum don't usually say things which look this bad on paper.

UNVOTE: Delta

[Eiralox]

[Frogsterking]

i have a feeling that frog has some good insights into the composition of the scumteam, which is how he can make this assumption.

This is starting to reach too-scummy-to-be-scum territory for me, I feel like scum don't usually say things which look this bad on paper.

UNVOTE: Delta

FMPOV when I've been pushed as scum I've often felt
"Oh this person has good insight" and then deliberately NOT posted that information. I guess I'm either overthinking it, Eira was scum after all, or the scum player is a player who would risk bussing themselves into auto loss.

[Frogsterking]

i have a feeling that frog has some good insights into the composition of the scumteam, which is how he can make this assumption.

This is starting to reach too-scummy-to-be-scum territory for me, I feel like scum don't usually say things which look this bad on paper.

UNVOTE: Delta

FMPOV when I've been pushed as scum I've often felt
"Oh this person has good insight" and then deliberately NOT posted that information. I guess I'm either overthinking it, Eira was scum after all, or the scum player is a player who would risk bussing themselves into auto loss.

It's most likely that I'm overthinking it.

VOTE: Delta

[Frogsterking]

i have a feeling that frog has some good insights into the composition of the scumteam, which is how he can make this assumption.

This is starting to reach too-scummy-to-be-scum territory for me, I feel like scum don't usually say things which look this bad on paper.

UNVOTE: Delta

FMPOV when I've been pushed as scum I've often felt
"Oh this person has good insight" and then deliberately NOT posted that information. I guess I'm either overthinking it, Eira was scum after all, or the scum player is a player who would risk bussing themselves into auto loss.

It's most likely that I'm overthinking it.

VOTE: Delta

UNVOTE: Delta

[Frogsterking]

There is another explanation I just realized:

Perhaps crescent being on Greeting is a good look for Greeting? Whatever.
VOTE: hoppip

Start of D2, intended for distancing.

Not Known 15 (6!):

Klick

, Ausuka, BlueBloodedToffee, Nero Cain, Greeting, Mapuche Never Die

It IS possible that Klick forgot to unvote.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Frogster

[Eiralox]

i am tempted

[Ausuka]

I'm also tempted to be fair

I think frog is maybe 40% to flip scum?

If this is a townflip I guess I'll have another look at Delta overnight

[Eiralox]

my power is going down in 2 hours for 2 hours. at this point i feel a claim from frogster is mandatory. don't know whether i'll be on again in 4 hours.

[Eiralox]

i have very good reasons to hammer this, went through frogster iso in a flash today and formed some.... further conclusions. Klick is off the table for me. I'll expand on what i think of frogster before i go dark

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[Klick]

I think Frogster's flailing because his wincon depends on surviving

[Eiralox]

Frogsterking, can you please frame how delta scum fits in with their partners?

[Gamma Emerald]

bibbidy

[Gamma Emerald]

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