Open 862: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Not_Mafia]

Game is in autowin from my perspective but I still want to get it right today and dispel any lingering doubts that I'm town

[Somnus]

Assuming the following two claims are correct, I would appreciate if Norwegian and Not_Mafia could full-claim in that exact order, please:

Penguin: Night 3 Doctor
Gamma: Night 4 Cop

[NorwegianboyEE]

Penguin was a really bad check if true claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Which makes fake claim much more likely.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was night 3 doctor. Target Somnus that night. Afterwards pretended to be night 4 doctor.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gamma checked Penguin. But conveniently me and N_M are the harder to solve slots based on the flips.
Gamma then comes in with an PoE of me and N_M.
It is obvious what they are doing here.
Don’t do N_M tommorow.

[Gamma Emerald]

I have personal history of sucking at sorting PP, so imo that was a fine check

[NorwegianboyEE]

Confirmed scum was on Penguin wagon yesterday.
It was the worst possible check.

[Somnus]

I was night 3 doctor. Target Somnus that night. Afterwards pretended to be night 4 doctor.

But why? Penguin had claimed night 3 doctor. Even if he were lying, scum!Penguin wouldn’t have been able to kill me that night without outing himself (unless you think he would have protected someone else?)

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was night 3 doctor. Target Somnus that night. Afterwards pretended to be night 4 doctor.

But why? Penguin had claimed night 3 doctor. Even if he were lying, scum!Penguin wouldn’t have been able to kill me that night without outing himself (unless you think he would have protected someone else?)

I didn’t put much thought into it as i was reeling from the Kop elim.

[Not_Mafia]

VC 2.5

Jake The Wolfie

(4)- Not_Mafia,

PenguinPower,

Nancy Drew 39

,

BlueBloodedToffee

GoldfishFromTheMoon

(1)- NorwegianboyEE

Not voting (6)-

GoldfishFromTheMoon

, Gamma Emerald,

Enchant

,

Jake The Wolfie

,

Somnus

,

Bellaphant

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

This is where the Jake wagon begins to form. Norwee is on a counterwagon, Gamma is hanging back but I don't think that's particularly AI for him.

VC 2.7

Jake The Wolfie

(5)- Not_Mafia,

PenguinPower,

Enchant

,

Somnus

,

BlueBloodedToffee

(E-1)

Enchant

(3)-

Bellaphant

, NorwegianboyEE,

Jake The Wolfie

Not voting (3)-

GoldfishFromTheMoon

, Gamma Emerald,

Don Draper x Mistress

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

VC 2.FINAL

Jake The Wolfie

(6)- Not_Mafia,

Enchant

,

Somnus

,

BlueBloodedToffee

,

PenguinPower,

Gamma Emerald (HAMMER)

Enchant

(3)-

Bellaphant

, NorwegianboyEE,

Jake The Wolfie

Not voting (2)-

Kop

,

Don Draper x Mistress

With 11 alive it takes 6 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-22 16:00:00)

Mod notes: I apologize for being easily distractible

Are scum really this committed to the Enchant wagon? This is a set-up with a lot of potential guilties but it feels excessive for Norwee to be scum here with how poisoned the slot was from froggo

VC 3.4

PenguinPower (4)- NorwegianboyEE,

Kop

,

Bellaphant

, Gamma Emerald (E-1)
NorwegianboyEE (2)-

BlueBloodedToffee

,

PenguinPower

Kop

(1)- Not_Mafia

Not voting (2)-

Somnus

,

Enchant

With 9 alive it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-09-07 17:00:00)

2 scum hopping on hoping to get Penguin limmed or was Penguin a target from the beginning, it felt like organic wagon at the time with scum hopping on late

VC 3.FINAL

Kop

(5)- Not_Mafia, Gamma Emerald,

PenguinPower,

BlueBloodedToffee

,

Enchant

(HAMMER)
PenguinPower (1)- NorwegianboyEE
NorwegianboyEE (1)-

Somnus

Not voting (2)-

Kop

,

Bellaphant

With 9 alive it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-09-07 17:00:00)

Mod notes: Kop is a German word meaning "head". At least, when you add the F in the chat they just received.

Was the Kop wagon really pure?

VC 4.2

BlueBloodedToffee

(3)- Gamma Emerald,

Bellaphant

, NorwegianboyEE (E-1)

Bellaphant

(3)-

BlueBloodedToffee

,

Somnus

, Not_Mafia (E-1)

Not voting (1)-

PenguinPower

With 7 alive it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-09-19 16:00:00)

Mod notes: my sleep schedule is extremely borked rn

VC 4.FINAL

Bellaphant

(4)-

BlueBloodedToffee

,

Somnus

, Not_Mafia, NorwegianboyEE (HAMMER)

BlueBloodedToffee

(2)- Gamma Emerald,

Bellaphant

Not voting (1)-

PenguinPower

With 7 alive it takes 4 to reach a majority.

Deadline is in (expired on 2022-09-19 16:00:00)

Mod notes: today is my grandma's bday

Penguin was definitely seeming like he ready to hammer Bella, looks like Norwee hopping on for credit at the end there.

[Not_Mafia]

Norwee why did you switch wagons all of a sudden yesterday?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee why did you switch wagons all of a sudden yesterday?

You want me to repeat what i had already laid out pretty plainly yesterday?

[Not_Mafia]

I’m just gonna say it
That’s a weird ass kill.

Really, I thought Nancy was pretty universally townread

somnus was "cleared" so while killing kop would have cleared somnus and provided an IC w/a potentially future-dated action with likely protects. killing somnus doesn't necessarily clear kop and eliminates that potential. what does killing nancy gain?

i guess there is something to be said for the wifom of scum clearing scum though.

There are potentially multiple docs per night in this set-up, any doc would have been on somnus

I was night 2 doc and of course protected Somnus, I hinted at it here

[Not_Mafia]

Norwee why did you switch wagons all of a sudden yesterday?

You want me to repeat what i had already laid out pretty plainly yesterday?

I want a retrospective summary of why you changed and why you changed when you did, yes

[NorwegianboyEE]

Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.

[Not_Mafia]

Gamma checked Penguin. But conveniently me and N_M are the harder to solve slots based on the flips.
Gamma then comes in with an PoE of me and N_M.
It is obvious what they are doing here.
Don’t do N_M tommorow.

This is a good point actually, scum!Gamma can't come in with a guilty, so basically has to pick a slot to clear and conveniently it's Penguin who was defacto conf town

[NorwegianboyEE]

What’s important is scum was elimmed and that scum is limmed tommorow.

[Not_Mafia]

Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.

Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place

[NorwegianboyEE]

And tbh. I’d rather be the elim today and if i was wrong, game ends tommorow. Rather than possibly be wrong today and then told how scummy i am and then limmed in ElO.

[Not_Mafia]

Okay, if you can't be bothered, I can't be bothered

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

[NorwegianboyEE]

Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.

Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place

I was always wary about Bella possibly just townreading me as an matter of convenience. Them turning their read around at the flip of an hat confirmed my suspicions to the point where i seriously began to consider they might be mafia, when they were put on E-1 with me as an possivle hammer. They then turned very quiet. Confirming to me that they were very likely mafia. It was an gamestate read essentially.

[Not_Mafia]

UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I have a unique angle on this game that might potentially solve things

[Not_Mafia]

Read back on what i said or just don’t bother, it doesn’t matter to me either way. I don’t care enough to reiterate my solving process.

Just humour me, I want to hear it from a less emotionally charged place

I was always wary about Bella possibly just townreading me as an matter of convenience. Them turning their read around at the flip of an hat confirmed my suspicions to the point where i seriously began to consider they might be mafia, when they were put on E-1 with me as an possivle hammer. They then turned very quiet. Confirming to me that they were very likely mafia. It was an gamestate read essentially.

You were pretty aggressive against BBT though, what I'm trying to understand is why the turnaround was quick when your BBT read seemed so strong?