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MathBlade · Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:15 am

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85633

Take a look here:

This is an example where the entire scum team was caught D1.

The only thing I could really do is poison the well that the day was going on too long.

Town died because the people who were right were drowned out by petty infighting. I just never bothered to try to fix it.

People want to be heroes way too much.

MathBlade · Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:19 am

The only reason I was miselimmed is we thought Titus was our traitor with how bad our reads were.

It almost became a dead sweep.

I am very good at scum because it requires actively listening and then giving people what they want.

But if you’re in a bad spot you manipulate the gamestate and people’s minds.

As outed scum this game left me continue to plan and speak and move chess pieces on the board.

Some assumptions people made are accurate and some I have poisoned the well.

When you see the mafia PT post game there is a key assumption (I won’t say what) that I am not correcting.

MathBlade · Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:26 am

453,463 for post game reference to this.

Certain alive players are assuming because (x is true) therefore (y is true)

But x doesn’t always necessitate y.

MathBlade · Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 7:33 am

In post 152, ProfessorDrapion wrote:I mean if not for my gambit I may have not realized that butterflies and Taly were wolves.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12582299

Why you never fake guilties and slow play real ones.

butterchurn · Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:46 am

I don't think there's much point in engaging with Drapion because even once he ends up being wrong he will find a way to twist it into him being right all along and that he made the correct play.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:43 am

The way Butterflies is treated Nora is funny.
They talked to Nora in a term that Is actually directed to everyone except Nora.
They said “Taly Gladiate” to Nora implying they aren’t directing it to Nora but they clearly are.

MathBlade · Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:04 am

In post 180, ProfessorDrapion wrote:The way Butterflies is treated Nora is funny.
They talked to Nora in a term that Is actually directed to everyone except Nora.
They said “Taly Gladiate” to Nora implying they aren’t directing it to Nora but they clearly are.

That’s pretty weak sauce.

Someone doesn’t talk the way I do is a crap scum case.

RH9 · Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:12 am

In post 177, MathBlade wrote:Certain alive players are assuming because (x is true) therefore (y is true)

But x doesn’t always necessitate y.

This is a good point.
I hope that they realise this.

MalcolmTucker · Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:45 am

In post 175, MathBlade wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85633

Take a look here:

This is an example where the entire scum team was caught D1.

The only thing I could really do is poison the well that the day was going on too long.

Town died because the people who were right were drowned out by petty infighting. I just never bothered to try to fix it.

People want to be heroes way too much.

Agreed, feel like there's been a few times where town was headed down a good path but ends up straying away from it due to infighting. I feel like it probably helped me survive a day or two longer than I expected to for example, feel like there were a couple of occasions where I couldn't be active for a while at points where I was under suspicion, but by the time I came back there'd been about 15 pages worth of arguing that went nowhere and town had gone down the wrong path. Probably why I think Rad's approach was good in the end - much as it delayed my elimination a turn they realised they didn't necessarily need to be around for town endgame for town to still win at the time.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:21 pm

If things happened my way, you would have been the execution and not Mala.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:38 pm

LOL
Butterflies going “oh I’ll probably die”
“Mafia wants me dead”

LOL.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:38 pm

Roden always dies.

Malakittens · Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:24 pm

Pi can you give me a hug.

Idk why, but I want a hug right now.

;-;

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:26 pm

*Hug*

MathBlade · Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:45 pm

In post 187, Malakittens wrote:Pi can you give me a hug.

Idk why, but I want a hug right now.

;-;

Deploying hugs and headpats. <3

MathBlade · Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:46 pm

In post 184, ProfessorDrapion wrote:If things happened my way, you would have been the execution and not Mala.

Interesting.

And what if your way was worse for town?

MathBlade · Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:46 pm

Town isn’t a “my way” thing. It’s an our way when done well.

MathBlade · Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:47 pm

In post 182, RH9 wrote:
In post 177, MathBlade wrote:Certain alive players are assuming because (x is true) therefore (y is true)

But x doesn’t always necessitate y.
This is a good point.
I hope that they realise this.

Interesting good luck solving for x and y

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:30 pm

If I’m wrong I will apologize but I shouldn’t be wrong on this.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 6:24 pm

sup mathblade

hows life been

RH9 · Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:08 pm

In post 14854, Noraa wrote:also to be clear because im like extremely tired right now and probably not speaking coherently, im not saying that i think johnny is town. im questioning the confidence behind an argument that doesnt make sense to me for johnny scum.
pooky flip =/= johnny scum
.
can johnny be scum? yes, but not for this reason.

This is a good point from Noraa.
I think that it can also apply to butterflies as well.

MathBlade · Post Post #196 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:00 pm

In post 194, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:sup mathblade

hows life been

Busy. Lots of OT.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #197 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:09 pm

Again Johnny is Town.
Johnny killing Pooky makes not much sense based on his mention of Pooky last day.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:10 pm

In post 195, RH9 wrote:
In post 14854, Noraa wrote:also to be clear because im like extremely tired right now and probably not speaking coherently, im not saying that i think johnny is town. im questioning the confidence behind an argument that doesnt make sense to me for johnny scum.
pooky flip =/= johnny scum
.
can johnny be scum? yes, but not for this reason.
This is a good point from Noraa.
I think that it can also apply to butterflies as well.

I think Nora pointed it out because Butterflies is their partner but you probably already knew that’s what I think.

ProfessorDrapion · Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 3:12 pm

In post 181, MathBlade wrote:
In post 180, ProfessorDrapion wrote:The way Butterflies is treated Nora is funny.
They talked to Nora in a term that Is actually directed to everyone except Nora.
They said “Taly Gladiate” to Nora implying they aren’t directing it to Nora but they clearly are.
That’s pretty weak sauce.

Someone doesn’t talk the way I do is a crap scum case.

LOL
But that’s not what I’m saying?
Issue is people need to understand I am not the best at communicating.

See Butterflies is taking as if to try and talk to others reading rather then Nora themselves.