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Post Post #14900 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:52 pm

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Sorry don’t mean to be a bitch or offend anyone but I’m at my wits’ end with the ridiculous srs. There is absolutely none and I repeat fucking NONE reason for me to ever kill Pooky here and I refuse to allow anymore of my dying neurons to argue this beyond obvious point.
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Post Post #14901 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:52 pm

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Sorry don’t mean to be a bitch or offend anyone but I’m at my wits’ end with the ridiculous srs. There is absolutely none and I repeat fucking NONE reason for me to ever kill Pooky here and I refuse to allow anymore of my dying neurons to argue this beyond obvious point.
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Post Post #14902 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:59 pm

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Again, didn’t intend to be so mean. I seriously don’t want to upset anyone. I’m just beyond losing patience with some people, nothing personal. <3

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Post Post #14903 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:56 pm

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It points to you because I think you're capable of doing it. You can say my logic is weak or whatever but I just don't see Noraa killing pooky over Roden. And if I'm not the scum, nor is Roden or Mislim, that leaves you, BB and Hook.
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Post Post #14904 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:10 pm

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In post 14903, JohnnyFarrar wrote:It points to you because I think you're capable of doing it. You can say my logic is weak or whatever but I just don't see Noraa killing pooky over Roden. And if I'm not the scum, nor is Roden or Mislim, that leaves you, BB and Hook.
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How does it point to me? I don’t believe you because your thought process here makes absolutely no sense. Why the fuck do I ever kill Pooky here?

And you’re “I’m capable of doing it” isn’t an answer. Whomever is scum here - and that’s 100% never me - is obviously “capable”, so this is again a really scummy answer.

Pooky wanted to lim you next followed by OtH. There is absolutely no logical reason for you to think that Pooky klll points to me in thr slightest. There is 0 logic and real thought in this answer and I think there absolutely would be if you were town.
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Post Post #14905 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:15 pm

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And ftr, I am not disagreeing on Noraa. I have been hard tr that slot since Toog’s second post but Pooky wasn’t sr EITHER of us, so what you’re saying makes 0 sense,.

Why do I kill Pooky over Roden, when Roden is confitown and Pooky is miselimable and lockcleared me? Like at least try to make an iota of sense here.
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Post Post #14906 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:32 pm

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I mean i could spitball here but I'm not really interested. Like i said I've townread basically everyone here at some point. I consider very few people clear on d11, much less in a bastard game. I'm navigating the only way I know how, judging how people feel. And you're in my bottom half.

Unless you're arguing I should think someone is MORE scummy than you (other than Hook cuz I agree) I don't see what you want from me here? I don't make cases, I'm not some town leader. The remaining scum have played well and I think the right play is to kill me here. My dying hero solve is Hook and BB.

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Post Post #14907 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 7:50 pm

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There is nothing about my play that is scummy. DNA already cleared me with their paraphrase of Math trying to run me up in their pt. Like that’s why I’m voting you because your sr on me makes absolutely no sense. Yes, after Drap flip, my solve was Pooky/you but then he got nk’d and that 100% points away from BOTH me and Noraa, so I don’t understand how you wouldn’t see that?

So fmpov. it reads like you were trying to shade me for bs reasons and then you continuing to claim that you hard tr confitown, doesn’t really help me either.

Roden and Butter are claimed masons. Butter flipped town, therefore Roden is confirmed to be town. There is NO possibility that he isn’t town here.

So if you’re actually town and didn’t kill Pooky, you shouldn’t only remove confitown!Roden but BOTH me and Noraa from the equation because NEITHER of us have any motive whatsoever to kill Pooky here and you not removing me is one of the reasons I think you’re scum here.
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Post Post #14908 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:25 pm

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Keep that same energy toward Hook and BB tomorrow and town's the winner! If you're town.
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Post Post #14909 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:26 pm

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UNVOTE:

for now.

You’re still my strongest sr and will probably revote you but I don’t want to rush this day.

Roden is never scum. I am never scum here and I don’t believe Noraa is either. So we start from there, maybe we can actually solve this game.
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Post Post #14910 (ISO) » Tue Sep 13, 2022 8:31 pm

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In post 14908, JohnnyFarrar wrote:Keep that same energy toward Hook and BB tomorrow and town's the winner! If you're town.
I am and have been far too passive in my voting. I still think you look scummier than either of them but I’m have enough doubts to want to think about this more.

I also don’t see why MB kills Pooky either, so it’s a seriously weird kill.
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Post Post #14911 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:54 am

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@Roden, @Noraa and @Mislim Bait, please don’t vote yet. If Johnny is actually town here, we could be fucked.

We need to really be confident on this and I’m not, anymore.

I admit that my rage at Drap was also affecting me. I really wanted Johnny to be scum to throw it in his face but I’m no longer so sure about that.
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Post Post #14912 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:54 am

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In post 14911, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:@Roden, @Noraa and @Mislim Bait, please don’t vote yet. If Johnny is actually town here, we could be fucked.

We need to really be confident on this and I’m not, anymore.

I admit that my rage at Drap was also affecting me. I really wanted Johnny to be scum to throw it in his face but I’m no longer so sure about that.
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Post Post #14913 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:18 am

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Tbh I'd feel a lot better about today if we weren't forced to waste an elim on Drapion yesterday. Because if Johnny flips town then I think his PoE is correct, and we'd have a chance to get through it safely with an extra day to vote. Like I get what he was doing but it kinda cost us our safety net. :/

Also I feel for Johnny here because this final 7 also consists of my town reads and I feel like it's a genuine reaction to be like "idk what to do here" at this point of the game.

Regardless I think we still have to vote him, and if not him I'd only accept OTH as an alternative today.
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Post Post #14914 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:03 am

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god i already know this is gonna be one of those games where i get behind and never get caught up again. ugh. something that just hit me in the face was a johnny-butterflies team. i fucking dont know at this point. everything is making me paranoid. hell you could probably convince me that the game is so bastard a mason is scum right now.

like butterflies backing off johnny is so weird to me. my brain just keeps screaming oh my fucking god butterflies thought johnny was doomed and wanted cred but now that johnny wagon isnt going flash, butterflies wants to keep him. but then every time im like ugh johnny might be town and if i think too hard im like no gamestate means he's probably scum so them im like huh maybe butterflies feels this way too. but then my brain goes back to the first argument and its like i solved the game! and then im like wait but what if ....? nancy can you just not reply to this for a bit btw? i need to let this float around for a bit
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Post Post #14915 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:14 am

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my brain right now: flipflopflpfopflipfopfipflipflopslfoppfloopp
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Post Post #14916 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:11 pm

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wait guys can we talk it thru first im kinda worried :/
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Post Post #14917 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:11 pm

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johnny why do u even think im scum lol
i thought u would be more wary considering the mini normal : 3
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Post Post #14918 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:33 pm

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did anyone ever answer my question from before smhs
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Post Post #14919 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:35 pm

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ive never at any point thought "this is hard to fake" when reading a miselim post, so what clears them as town..? their posts all seem fairly easy for scum to make?
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Post Post #14920 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:11 pm

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Vote Count 11.22 JohnnyFarrar (Best Bird, Off the Hook)

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Not Voting (Noraa, Roden, JohnnyFarrar, Mislim Bait, butterflies)

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Post Post #14921 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 14914, Noraa wrote:god i already know this is gonna be one of those games where i get behind and never get caught up again. ugh. something that just hit me in the face was a johnny-butterflies team. i fucking dont know at this point. everything is making me paranoid. hell you could probably convince me that the game is so bastard a mason is scum right now.

like butterflies backing off johnny is so weird to me. my brain just keeps screaming oh my fucking god butterflies thought johnny was doomed and wanted cred but now that johnny wagon isnt going flash, butterflies wants to keep him. but then every time im like ugh johnny might be town and if i think too hard im like no gamestate means he's probably scum so them im like huh maybe butterflies feels this way too. but then my brain goes back to the first argument and its like i solved the game! and then im like wait but what if ....? nancy can you just not reply to this for a bit btw? i need to let this float around for a bit
Why is it weird Noraa? I don’t know what Johnny’s going to flip. Are you convinced he’s scum here because I’m not and if he’s town, then we get two town and two scum tomorrow and Idk if scum’s wincon is parity or killing all the townies but in any case, we absolutely can’t afford to rush this vote - which is what you claimed to have wanted.

I’m saying I’m not confident Johnny’s scum anymore and you should realize that scum!me wouldn’t gaf about that. Like it’s almost like you want to sr me no matter what I do here.

I’m not confident on Johnny’s alignment, so I think it would be seriously fucking stupid to rush this vote.

Also, Johnny supposedly kills Pooky why? to avoid getting run up? But Pooky died and Johhny still got put up to e-1, so if Johnny!scum actually killed Pooky, how did it help him?

Also, Johhny made me question an assumption I had that scum was obviously going to bus Johnny but I realized from my scumgames that I would only bus if my buddy was dead in the water scum, so I think that it’s suboptimal for scum to bus here if Johnny is in fact scum. It’s entirely possible that I’m also wrong but I have enough doubt to think that I could very possibly be right and as idiotic as Drap’s read on me was, he was right on Rad and yeah, I think it’s possible that Johhny could possibly be a miselim here.
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Post Post #14922 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 1:57 pm

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In post 14914, Noraa wrote:hell you could probably convince me that the game is so bastard a mason is scum right now.
I absolutely feel this but I'm just so willing to lose to that at this point.
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Post Post #14923 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:00 pm

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I don’t give a fuck about cred, I don’t want to lose if Johnny’s actually town here. If I honestly cared about that I wouldn’t have been pushing so hard for a no lim in the gladiate because it seemed extremely obvious to me that scum was fine with either Ceph or Taly flip and I just had the pick the right side and be golden but I didn’t care about that. I just didn’t want to vote out my tr.

And I don’t want to lose this game if Johhny flips town here. It’s not fucking rocket science.
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Post Post #14924 (ISO) » Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:12 pm

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So if I’m right about it being suboptimal for scum to bus here, than who is Johnny aligned with? He got put up to e-1 yesterday, so who was defending him? I’m saying if my no bussing theory is correct, than that means that Johnny isn’t aligned with anyone but I’m open to arguments that I’m wrong but I just think that of Johnny’s scum here, killing Pooky didn’t help him in the slightest based off of him getting put up to e-1.

I think MB/Klick looks antipartnery with Math/Bella because Bella kept jumping on Titus for voting Klick and that read to me like Bella was maybe tming Klick town? So if I’m right about you (Noraa) being town and I obviously know I am, who’s Johnny alligned with?
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