Datisi's Café [game over!]

[furtiveglance]

I thought I'd do a 'big' post since people have expressed concern for game length. You don't have to read the spoilered bits if you don't want! In this 'readslist', I will give my input into how 'sus' selected players are as we build and reshape this new social hierarchy.

Disclaimer: some of this relies on meta. I've just fully embraced meta now. Sorry BBT and my former self.

Uncrowned

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Seems to be exploring the thread really openly, my strongest townread so far. Progression on Roden looks good. There's an offchance they're mafia playing really comfortably but in that scenario they probably drop later so I'm happy to invoke the dreaded 'locktown' status here for the time being.

Petapan

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I've gone from scumreading to townreading this player. Early vote hopping with strange poetry was just different from Newbie 2101, but since then they've put out some substantial reads. They also seem not to be S/S with Ircher (yes a pre-flip associative. Tell me 485 and 502 are paired). The read on Titus seems genuine, although I don't agree.

Titus

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Town for me. 192 looks towny, as does 221. I often see pre-flip stuff criticised but I haven't seen it come from mafia all that often (if you have, fine). Also banging on about Ircher 'freezing' looks towny whether Titus is right or wrong. Just the strength of conviction seems genuine to me.

Nero Cain

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I found the songs annoying (sorry) but 522 is one of the more genuine posts I've seen all game so far, especially regretting not taking it further. Also Nero feels really similar to Newbie 2101 in this game. Maybe that's just the tone. Still town.

Vivax

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This is a slot that I'm townreading based on Open 861: The Turing Test (https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go) - 290 is an example of a more lucid post, which I find towny. Not the strongest read, more of a lean.

RC

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Town. Gives early reads, offers to protect Roden (100), 219 and 359 also look solvey. Not getting the scumreads here.

Roden

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432 and 474 both townread players (PP and Petapan) for the same reason: being reasonable about something (setup balance and how often to post). I not only don't see the logic, but find it hard to believe this is how Roden gets his reads. The only other read from Roden so far is a complex townlean on Titus (473). I'm scumleaning Roden so far, but sometimes they get townier as the game goes on. We'll see.

Ircher

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451 is not an adequate response to being ran up charged with a 'slip'. "4 is pretty typical for a game of this size." 321 from PP lists some 4-scum large games, so I was probably mistaken in thinking 5 was more typical. However, my response to 451 is that I want to vote Ircher again and see if it does anything. Quoting the word 'guess' in Lukewarm's post is obviously a conscious decision, but it hasn't worked on me! As for the vote on Vivax, it's partly the destination of the vote, but also the reasoning given that I don't like - "but Vivax is sticking out like a sore thumb." This can mean 2 things: 1) Vivax is obvious mafia, or 2) Vivax is playing weirdly. I interpreted it the 2nd way, which never feels like the most compelling reason for a scumread and it's a reason I often see mafia give.

[furtiveglance]

^I thought these were the kind of 'main characters' lately, let me know who else you want me to feature!

[Vivax]

Can‘t stop staring at uncrowned avi‘s, zooming in n out wondering what kinda creature that is with such a name. Looks like a mutant cat that someone stepped on, but luckily PETA is here to find the culprit.

[Nero Cain]

I'M GREEN!

[Nero Cain]

dw, some of those songs did suck. I was just typing in work on youtube and that's what came up

[Nero Cain]

I think Vivax seems way more fluffy here than he did in Turing Test. I will use 300% productivity to kill him but I guess we are doing Ircher today wich is ok, I could see it.

[Vivax]

I think Vivax seems way more fluffy here than he did in Turing Test. I will use 300% productivity to kill him but I guess we are doing Ircher today wich is ok, I could see it.

You lowkey have hidden desires to kill fluffy things? Gotchilla

[Uncrowned]

Can‘t stop staring at uncrowned avi‘s, zooming in n out wondering what kinda creature that is with such a name. Looks like a mutant cat that someone stepped on, but luckily PETA is here to find the culprit.

BRO ITS SO FUCKING CUTE

it's a sable theyre beautiful lil long bois

[Nero Cain]

or maybe idk, damn malfunctioning blaster

[Uncrowned]

^I thought these were the kind of 'main characters' lately, let me know who else you want me to feature!

fire

[Nero Cain]

its a brown panda!

[Nero Cain]

its a brown panda!

[furtiveglance]

^I thought these were the kind of 'main characters' lately, let me know who else you want me to feature!

fire

For a second I thought you meant this line was fire from me. Never mind, I forgot Fire and I needed some kind of 'inspection'.

Background to this one is Turing Test obviously. If you go and read the dead thread, I was convinced that Fire was the last mafia until the last day, and so was at least one other player. Initially in this game I kind of scumleaned Fire at first, for the comment about posting too much, I've never really cared about post count. You mentioned 86 already, in hindsight idk how scummy it is. Fire is quite a stream of consciousness-y player as town. 208 is a bit early to townread me, I'm not sure I really had memed as much as Turing Test at that point. Actually there are a few posts. 240 one of the most towny posts I can point to.

Basically to conclude, Fire isn't quite a strong townread yet but could become one with time. Not a major suspect either. I suppose this is more a townlean than a null, I hate nulling players.

[Datisi]

vote count 1.06

with 21 votes in play, it takes 11 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-09-29 01:45:00).

firing

Ircher [9]:

mastina, Lukewarm, Titus, furtiveglance, Ausuka, RCEnigma, Klick, BlueBloodedToffee, Vivax

Ydrasse [5]:

Roden, Andresvmb, jjh927, PenguinPower, Nero Cain

Uncrowned [2]:

fireisredsir, Ydrasse

Titus [2]:

petapan, Malakittens

petapan [1]:

Something_Smart

Vivax [1]:

Ircher

Roden [1]:

Uncrowned

not voting [0]:

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[Lukewarm]

^I thought these were the kind of 'main characters' lately, let me know who else you want me to feature!

Heartbroken.

Spoiler:

Relegated to a supporting role

[Uncrowned]

I always have had a little bit of main character syndrome ngl

[jjh927]

As a useful reference, my true entrance will be in about 4 hours when I'm off work.

[Titus]

Looking forward to it jjh.

[petapan]

isn't bad vibes just scumreads

i'm playing semantics but my intention wit using "vibes" rather than "reads" was to emphasize that these are mostly loose instinctual feelings rather than reasoned conclusions i feel strongly about because hey it's really early

I've gone from scumreading to townreading this player.

Early vote hopping with strange poetry was just different from Newbie 2101

, but since then they've put out some substantial reads. They also seem not to be S/S with Ircher (yes a pre-flip associative. Tell me 485 and 502 are paired). The read on Titus seems genuine, although I don't agree.

lol you're precious for so many reasons

^I thought these were the kind of 'main characters' lately, let me know who else you want me to feature!

Heartbroken.

Spoiler:

Relegated to a supporting role

you're the one who chose a fluffy mascot character as an avatar, seems like you cosigned yourself to that role

[Ydrasse]

I could put ircher on e-1

[Ydrasse]

I have that power

[PenguinPower]

^I thought these were the kind of 'main characters' lately, let me know who else you want me to feature!

Heartbroken.

Spoiler:

Relegated to a supporting role

don't be riku next time then

[Ydrasse]

s_s, furtive, klick, peta (..?), uncrowned (.....?)

i work with these as main comfy town for now

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[Ydrasse]

I feel like even if ircher is wolf this wagon is bad news bears

feels super easy to jump on and push because everyone want to be smart if town and catch the slip and wolf can jump on momentum without having to do much and get credit

need make sure everyone explicitly say why they vote ircher if not just for slip than for which of posts (should be easy since few)

[Uncrowned]

im pretty sure we can just solidify that anyone voting after the slip got called out should not really be given towncred if ircher flips red

also what changed your mind on me because my posting has remained relatively the same and i'm now a somewhat (?) townread of yours