Datisi's Café [game over!]

[furtiveglance]

Also it's a statistical "rule" that I don't think ever held any meaningful basis, and many scum players who are aware of it have been known to purposefully violate it anyway because it throws people off who follow it religiously

I think it does have a basis in psychology. If you tell someone to come up with 50 random coinflip results, most people will have too few long streaks of one result, because outliers like that don't feel as "random". Similarly, if scum pick a "random" group of 3 people, they're more likely to mix in alignments proportionally than if it were actually random.

But yes, it doesn't work on people who are aware of it, and it is easy to manipulate. (I've done so as scum plenty of times.)

Too much math now.

[RCEnigma]

About you specifically fire or both reads?

Everything you post feels reserved in a way that has been weirding me out for a while. Things like the hedgy read on uncrowned when they moved their attention away.

Or Sussing Titus and simultaneously giving the green light on Ircher as maybe scum maybe not.

The repeated noncommittal reads as you trying to avoid being accountable and I find it scummy.

[furtiveglance]

Also it's a statistical "rule" that I don't think ever held any meaningful basis, and many scum players who are aware of it have been known to purposefully violate it anyway because it throws people off who follow it religiously

I think it does have a basis in psychology. If you tell someone to come up with 50 random coinflip results, most people will have too few long streaks of one result, because outliers like that don't feel as "random". Similarly, if scum pick a "random" group of 3 people, they're more likely to mix in alignments proportionally than if it were actually random.

But yes, it doesn't work on people who are aware of it, and it is easy to manipulate. (I've done so as scum plenty of times.)

Too much math now.

I've become so Americanised

[fireisredsir]

About you specifically fire or both reads?

Everything you post feels reserved in a way that has been weirding me out for a while. Things like the hedgy read on uncrowned when they moved their attention away.

Or Sussing Titus and simultaneously giving the green light on Ircher as maybe scum maybe not.

The repeated noncommittal reads as you trying to avoid being accountable and I find it scummy.

the klick read seems like a hot take and i didn't see any mention of it in your iso, so i was curious about that as well

and uhh yea you're just gonna have to get used to that ig. i think its generally more of a thing for me as town (lower confidence), its easier to project confidence and towniness as scum when there's no need to be honest, but i might try to imitate it as scum so its probably nai tbh

[fireisredsir]

I've become so Americanised

the internet really does that to you

you kept your s instead of a z tho so you're not all the way gone

[Nero Cain]

'Merica, FUCK YEAH!

[furtiveglance]

Fine Fire is town.

[Nero Cain]

Does anyone besides me think its kinda odd that JJ has me so low in his town list but he's literally sheeping half my scum reads? Prob not but it felt sorta odd to me, idk.

[furtiveglance]

Does anyone besides me think its kinda odd that JJ has me so low in his town list but he's literally sheeping half my scum reads? Prob not but it felt sorta odd to me, idk.

Hey, you too?

[jjh927]

Okay, question for furtiveglance and specifically NOT Nero then

Who are Nero's scumreads

[Vivax]

As a useful reference, my true entrance will be in about 4 hours when I'm off work.

Looks oddly like Berserk. It's the type of story that disappoints the readers, maybe cause it wasn't the actual author who finished it.

[jjh927]

Looks oddly like Berserk. It's the type of story that disappoints the readers, maybe cause it wasn't the actual author who finished it.

It's Bastard!!

I watch a LOT of trash

This is trash

[furtiveglance]

Okay, question for furtiveglance and specifically NOT Nero then

Who are Nero's scumreads

Ircher and Vivax

[jjh927]

I'll wait for nero to confirm vivax was who he was concerned about because I have no clue who he scumreads aside from Ircher


Follow-up though

Ircher is widely scumread. It seems bizarre to me that one of your thoughts upon reading my readslist is such an absurdly Nero-centric take

Is vivax such a wildly uncommon scumread at this point in the game that something weird is going on if I scumread these 2 people, and also 2 other people, and have Nero low down in my town pile?

You have claimed the same thought process as Nero here. It makes sense as to why it would come from him but since you've agreed with him I'd like you to be the one to explain your working

[Nero Cain]

it's actually mala and vaxiv more than ircher, mala and vivax.

like I said earlier I'm a little bit alarmed that an Ircher wagon got lo L-1 in 14 pages (and vivax L-1 vote seemed scummy as shit) but I am agreeing that his second set of posting was not great and I can buy into the slip thing b/c 4 scum is NOT the norm for a 21 player. My vote isn't there b/c I have little to no interest in ending the day.

You have both read poorly but JJH more than furt.

[jjh927]

I mean, yeah, I thought you might have scumread mala but it wasn't entirely clear based on the way you expressed that

[jjh927]

I'd ask how exactly I've read this poorly, but I'd much rather you leave furtive to drown here because he claimed to be thinking the same thing as a point you made that didn't really make any sense to come from any POV other than yours

[Vivax]

Looks oddly like Berserk. It's the type of story that disappoints the readers, maybe cause it wasn't the actual author who finished it.

It's Bastard!!

I watch a LOT of trash

This is trash

Thoughts of a dump manager: They see the result of there being a dump they manage, but not the source of goods. Living in the other polarity, their source of trash, they conclude that the world must be made of trash. This is why incinerators are better than dumps

[Klick]

We should either hammer Ircher or move on imo
I'm interested in pursuing an RCEnigma vote but I don't want to dampen the Ircher wagon for something that might not happen

[furtiveglance]

I'll wait for nero to confirm vivax was who he was concerned about because I have no clue who he scumreads aside from Ircher


Follow-up though

Ircher is widely scumread. It seems bizarre to me that one of your thoughts upon reading my readslist is such an absurdly Nero-centric take

Is vivax such a wildly uncommon scumread at this point in the game that something weird is going on if I scumread these 2 people, and also 2 other people, and have Nero low down in my town pile?

You have claimed the same thought process as Nero here. It makes sense as to why it would come from him but since you've agreed with him I'd like you to be the one to explain your working

I'd accept it if you explained any of your own working, a 'gut take' is surely a simple read on what's happening. I'm either scum pushing town!Ircher, or town pushing town, or town pushing scum. Unless you want to argue that we're both scum?

[Vivax]

Conveniently, there's a big incinerator in the sky that sometimes acts unpredictably

[Nero Cain]

We should either hammer Ircher or move on imo

no?

[jjh927]

I'll wait for nero to confirm vivax was who he was concerned about because I have no clue who he scumreads aside from Ircher


Follow-up though

Ircher is widely scumread. It seems bizarre to me that one of your thoughts upon reading my readslist is such an absurdly Nero-centric take

Is vivax such a wildly uncommon scumread at this point in the game that something weird is going on if I scumread these 2 people, and also 2 other people, and have Nero low down in my town pile?

You have claimed the same thought process as Nero here. It makes sense as to why it would come from him but since you've agreed with him I'd like you to be the one to explain your working

I'd accept it if you explained any of your own working, a 'gut take' is surely a simple read on what's happening. I'm either scum pushing town!Ircher, or town pushing town, or town pushing scum. Unless you want to argue that we're both scum?

So, does that mean you think Nero has articulated the reads better and it's weird that I am just following them, or is your point entirely designed to try and put things back on me to distract from how your reasoning in agreeing with Nero didn't make sense from your point of view?

[furtiveglance]

I'll wait for nero to confirm vivax was who he was concerned about because I have no clue who he scumreads aside from Ircher


Follow-up though

Ircher is widely scumread. It seems bizarre to me that one of your thoughts upon reading my readslist is such an absurdly Nero-centric take

Is vivax such a wildly uncommon scumread at this point in the game that something weird is going on if I scumread these 2 people, and also 2 other people, and have Nero low down in my town pile?

You have claimed the same thought process as Nero here. It makes sense as to why it would come from him but since you've agreed with him I'd like you to be the one to explain your working

I'd accept it if you explained any of your own working, a 'gut take' is surely a simple read on what's happening. I'm either scum pushing town!Ircher, or town pushing town, or town pushing scum. Unless you want to argue that we're both scum?

So, does that mean you think Nero has articulated the reads better and it's weird that I am just following them, or is your point entirely designed to try and put things back on me to distract from how your reasoning in agreeing with Nero didn't make sense from your point of view?

Nero shared more scumreads with you than I did, yes. But Ircher is more than just one read - they're the main wagon. So I'm still failing to see how your gut is reading the main event of this game so far, the voting.

Now have I unlocked your monologue cut-scene?

[jjh927]

Like, you see that my scumreads contains Ircher and Vivax and you think to yourself "It sure is weird how jjh927 is sheeping Nero Cain"

How does any human being other than Nero Cain approach from this angle?