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[furtiveglance]

Is Social Media Influencer considered positively in today's society? I don't think it is, can definitely see Datisi giving mafia this flavour. But can also see them giving it to town.

[Ircher]

The message is anonymous and confirmed not to have come from the moderator. Of course, it's not really anonymous anymore now that I've claimed.

It doesn't reveal your alignment then. I feel like if that's the case, it has literally zero value. On mafia.gg there's a Crier which is confirmed to be town.

I wasn't planning on using it, but it has situational value depending on the setup.

You think it has no value in this setup, and hadn't planned to use it. Did you not think about using it as a basis for a claim?

It's cost benefit analysis. We need to average 75-80% productivity. If I spend 20% just to prove a claim, that's rather a waste.

Yeah, it also doesn't prove a claim.

I'm not sure what you're driving at here. You seem to be agreeing with me yet simultaneously implying that my planned course of action was bad.

[Ircher]

Is Social Media Influencer considered positively in today's society? I don't think it is, can definitely see Datisi giving mafia this flavour. But can also see them giving it to town.

I highly doubt flavor is based on societal connotations.

[Ircher]

Is Social Media Influencer considered positively in today's society? I don't think it is, can definitely see Datisi giving mafia this flavour. But can also see them giving it to town.

I highly doubt flavor+alignment pairings are based on societal connotations.

EBWOP

[furtiveglance]

The message is anonymous and confirmed not to have come from the moderator. Of course, it's not really anonymous anymore now that I've claimed.

It doesn't reveal your alignment then. I feel like if that's the case, it has literally zero value. On mafia.gg there's a Crier which is confirmed to be town.

I wasn't planning on using it, but it has situational value depending on the setup.

You think it has no value in this setup, and hadn't planned to use it. Did you not think about using it as a basis for a claim?

It's cost benefit analysis. We need to average 75-80% productivity. If I spend 20% just to prove a claim, that's rather a waste.

Yeah, it also doesn't prove a claim.

I'm not sure what you're driving at here. You seem to be agreeing with me yet simultaneously implying that my planned course of action was bad.

Yeah, not really driving at something, just digesting.

[Vivax]

It's cost benefit analysis

. We need to average 75-80% productivity. If I spend 20% just to prove a claim, that's rather a waste.

Spoiler:

Next chapter in the book of wagon defense jiu-jitsu: Controlling & Accounting

Schrut appruv

We can get social influenza from Ircher if no lunch
Same guy who is incapable of adapting his read on me

[furtiveglance]

Initial reaction is that this very underwhelming claim is ironically quite explosive. All of Ircher's play is scum, but this claim seems like a potentially plausible town role in a setup which probably has a few weak town PRs. And the flavour and mechanic go well together.

[Ircher]

What is your point?

pedit: @Vivax.

[Vivax]

Initial reaction is that this very underwhelming claim is ironically quite explosive. All of Ircher's play is scum, but this claim seems like a potentially plausible town role in a setup which probably has a few weak town PRs. And the flavour and mechanic go well together.

Yeah that's what they thought when I used it in warhammer mash and saved myself for a while, before I was made to do the bullet dance and got santygross'd after pretending to be ITA immune

Ask Ydrasse

[furtiveglance]

Initial reaction is that this very underwhelming claim is ironically quite explosive. All of Ircher's play is scum, but this claim seems like a potentially plausible town role in a setup which probably has a few weak town PRs. And the flavour and mechanic go well together.

Yeah that's what they thought when I used it in warhammer mash and saved myself for a while, before I was made to do the bullet dance and got santygross'd after pretending to be ITA immune

Ask Ydrasse

Link the game, it won't help me with this but it'll be fun to see you as scum

[Ausuka]

Hi Ircher why am i town

I think the role is negative utility and doesn't really factor into my read either way

[Vivax]

Initial reaction is that this very underwhelming claim is ironically quite explosive. All of Ircher's play is scum, but this claim seems like a potentially plausible town role in a setup which probably has a few weak town PRs. And the flavour and mechanic go well together.

Yeah that's what they thought when I used it in warhammer mash and saved myself for a while, before I was made to do the bullet dance and got santygross'd after pretending to be ITA immune

Ask Ydrasse

Link the game, it won't help me with this but it'll be fun to see you as scum

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/se ... 8885&pp=50

[fireisredsir]

I think the role is negative utility and doesn't really factor into my read either way

agree w this i think

[jjh927]

I think I can see a reason why it might be a lie, so I'm just gonna put that out there, and then wait for Mastina to show up to say she can also see a reason that is probably the same one, and for neither of us to elaborate

[Nero Cain]

then why do you care if she does?

[Nero Cain]

*gently strokes JJ's ego*

[jjh927]

Because I trust that if I'm on to something she'll see the same thing and we don't need to elaborate beyond that

[Nero Cain]

ummm ok.....

[Vivax]

Because I trust that if I'm on to something she'll see the same thing and we don't need to elaborate beyond that

If I spend 20% just to prove a claim, that's rather a waste.

This, ok y'all?
Not how this works if he plans on doing the broadcast tonight.

[jjh927]

I'm not gonna sit here and tell scum what I expect in a fakeclaim this game. Mastina has a different data point to me in the form of her own role PM but will probably look at the claim in a very similar way to me.

PEdit: Ircher is dying in this day phase. He isn't going to be doing any broadcasting tonight

[furtiveglance]

I don't want to pivot off Ircher either. Having agreed that his claimed role is completely useless in this game, he is either a de facto VT or mafia. I think from the way he's played that a mafia flip is more likely, and in that case we would know that the scumteam has 4. It also spews quite a few players town in my eyes but I won't say which ones now (it's fairly obvious anyway).

A town flip is never good, but we wouldn't be losing a useful ability and I think the fallout from an Ircher town flip would probably shake up everyone's reads (especially townreads being run back) in a way that would be healthy for the gamestate.

[Vivax]

vote count 1.06

with 21 votes in play, it takes 11 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-09-29 01:45:00).

firing

Ircher [9]:

mastina, Lukewarm, Titus, furtiveglance, Ausuka, RCEnigma, Klick, BlueBloodedToffee, Vivax

Ydrasse [4]:

Roden, Andresvmb, PenguinPower, Nero Cain

Titus [3]:

petapan, Malakittens, fireisredsir

petapan [1]:

Something_Smart

Vivax [1]:

Ircher

Roden [1]:

Uncrowned

Malakittens [1]:

jjh927

not voting [1]:

Ydrasse

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VOTE: Ydrasse

This reads like a spite-spew btw and looks bad for Yd

[Vivax]

Big d*ckmove if true

Invert! Invert!

[Ydrasse]

i think he just want to live