LOST (Game Over)

[butterflies]

It’s not me, so is Noraa actually right?

It’s not me, I don’t believe it’s Noraa.

Something isn’t adding up here. You had better not be bsing me Gamma.

[butterflies]

Btw Gamma if you’re actually town. you sr me here is beyond idiotic. I don’t know why I’m even unvoting you, because you know I never kill Pooky here.

I’m seriously going to hope you’re not actually scum hete gaslighting me.

[butterflies]

VOTE: BB

meh

[butterflies]

What changed this time was I felt like some point needed to be made about how your play makes it so I feel like I’m walking on eggshells any time I think about veering away from a solid TR on you. As far as I’m concerned, you’re a brutally easy pocket, to the point I’m not even sure you’ve caught scum!me ONCE. But you don’t adapt! You let yourself fall into the same traps.
Back on topic: I said it feels like a massive risk to suspect you at all, and this game reinforced that feeling. So I decided “I have to make this point otherwise I’m just gonna keep not being able to feel free to actually PLAY a regular game with you”. That’s I mentioned my respect for you, because I was trying to indicate that my criticism was meant in a constructive manner.

~GE

You specifically implied that I shouldn’t play mafia anymore because I wasn’t having fun according to you and again. I think it’s both wolfy and unnaceptable considering you used our friendship to do that. You still don’t seem to be getting how extremely not okay what you said to me was and frankly if you’re not going to take full accountability for what you said and make some attempt to undo the psychological damage it caused me, then you are just adding insult to injury and i am done with this conversation.

Wrt to the game: I read it as wolfy.
Wrt to our friendship: you have harmed it

That’s all I’m interested in saying about it.

Gamma, if you are actually bullshitting me, remember this post. If you are actually telling the truth. then that obviously changes things

[Off The Hook]

UNVOTE:
I’m gonna regroup with Marci once she’s on again. I feel like I’ve lost the plot.

~GE

[butterflies]

UNVOTE:
I’m gonna regroup with Marci once she’s on again. I feel like I’ve lost the plot.

~GE

I’m serious, if you didn’t tell me what you did as scum, then maybe I owe you an apology? It still really hurt me regardless but if you made that post as town, then maybe I’m an idiot and you actually were coming from a good place?

[butterflies]

If OtH is town I think I’m going to seriously hate myself.

[butterflies]

BlueBloodedToffee has died.

BlueBloodedToffee was

Spoiler:

town

MalcolmTucker's role was:

Spoiler:

Michael



You are mafia. Your mafia PT is located here: XXXXXX

(Adrift) If Walt is eliminated by the vote, you will gain the ability to kill any player that voted for Walt immediately after, before night occurs.
(Special) You are in a neighborhood with Walt. Your neighborhood is located here: XXXXX

You win with the mafia, when they achieve parity with the town or nothing can prevent this from happening.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to yeet. Day 8 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-09-09 12:00:00)

[butterflies]

UNVOTE:

for now

I need to seriously rethink this game.

[butterflies]

My PT partner brought up the fact that they don't trust me, that I could be scum, and that I basically asked for a free pass through Day 1.

For those not in the know, I was involved in a head on collision last Friday night. My kids were in the car with me. I was ambulances to the ER, but thankfully my kids walked away with minor injuries.

I am doing some daily physical therapy and we are working with lawyers and insurance right now, and in my down time I am trying to relax and rest.

I don't anticipate this being problematic beyond this week, but if people feel I'm getting a pass, or need to replace out, I will.

---

I have not read anything other than my PT.

I actually didn't consider the possibility that my partner might consider us unaligned. Based on my show knowledge, I actually would have thought us Masons if my PM didn't specifically call us neighbors.

My role is Shannon, my partner is Boone. We are in a PT called Kissing Siblings, which I don't recall them being incestual at all, lol.

At any rate, I will get to this eventually.

This post reads really townie because Toog was also in FFIV where flavour and alignment were directly connected, unlike this game.

So I just don’t ever see Toog making this post as scum.

[Noraa]

johnny 2nd and oth 3rd?

you think oth has more win equity than johnny?

[Noraa]

i dont want to read this back and forth tbh but that was hammer wasnt it? i dont think this was the correct play but i hope dearly that this flips scum.

[Noraa]

if oth flips town, i think one of johnny/bb and someone else is scum.

[Noraa]

last thoughts hmm. i dont really like that hammer ugh but i do feel like scum nancy probably doesnt lolhammer like that. it'd be a weird move unless oth is scum. but i suppose if oth is scum, it would be an even weirder move; like why not just uh hammer either of the other two mislims in that world?

[Best Bird]

what are you on about? it takes 4 to yeet and that was only three. there's a vc two pages back.

[Noraa]

oh i thought it was three to lim. rip. ok never mind.

[Best Bird]

I think the best elim right now is best bird>johnny>oth.
this is in terms of threat level. i dont think we have issues eliminating scum johnny or scum oth in elo. in fact, i think im more worried about mislimming them potentially if town, so we definitely dont have the issue of not elimming them if scum. the way oth is getting heat for what i see as not being active and best bird isnt because he was all defeatist and angry for no reason makes me also think best bird has a higher likelihood of not being town here since the gamestate is almost always going to favor scum because scum is trying to seem towny whereas town doesnt try to seem towny.
i think the best course of action today is to eliminate best bird. ask luke to leave a final reads list and we'll consider it true if best bird flips town and not consider it if he doesnt. luke is definitely posting because that stuff he said about me is a literal copy of what he's always said about me, so if best bird is actually town, a final reads list with reasons from luke is very important. but i think the risk of scum best bird running away with a win is much higher than scum johnny or oth doing the same thing especially if he has luke content to just copy paste.
consider two situations:
1) we eliminate oth and oth flips town. consider scum best birds chances in elo.
2) we eliminate best bird and best bird flips town. consider scum oths chances in elo.
i dont think those are even vaguely close and the same applies to johnny.

why has butterflies just complete dropped out of your scum reads here?

[Noraa]

i specifically looked at the vc to see how many people were on the wagon idk where the 3 came from. and then i thought mod was gonna close the thread @_@

[Noraa]

why has butterflies just complete dropped out of your scum reads here?

many reasons.
number 1 butterflies isnt a plausible wagon today in general
2 im operating on a butterflies town assumption for now.

[Best Bird]

2 im operating on a butterflies town assumption for now.

yeah - that's my question, because about 24 hours ago you weren't.

what changed is what i'm asking.

[Noraa]

its not really ever changed. i've been thinking about the game as two worlds. one is that butterflies is town and the other is that butterflies is scum.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Scum play suboptimally sometimes. I'm not sure why Hook missing their shot and then letting out some sort-of-useful-information-at-the-time on a dead malcolm counts much in their favor here. I'd still bet on them being scum here when compared to Noraa, Mislim or Butterflies.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I recognize that I'm the one people most think is scum outside of BB and Hook, but just saying from my perspective this still seems very cut and dry

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also Gamma dropping that info the way they did reads like they've been sitting on that little fact for a while, but didn't wanna be the one to say it

[butterflies]

I recognize that I'm the one people most think is scum outside of BB and Hook, but just saying from my perspective this still seems very cut and dry

I’m just sincerely hoping that Gamma wouldn’t gaslight me like that. He said that it wasn’t actually his intention to hurt me. Well he did hurt me irrespective of alignment but if he did it as town then I can possibly buy that he had good intentions because FL sure as hell didn’t.