Datisi's Café [game over!]

[Vivax]

i read a bit of tft but not enough to know what she's talking about, vivax do you?

Yeah, I see ‚signs‘ since two months (totally sane I know)
But from where I‘m standing it‘s hard to pinpoint the ‘reason‘, kindaaaa slowly getting there. But feels like wading through a jungle where every corner tries to pull you in.

In a game of mafia, first I‘d argue comes knowledge, then you weigh it, and figure out what the heck happened and who you should talk to.

Because tragedy of the commons, apparently

[fireisredsir]

ok looks like in tft titus got like shot multiple times and didn't die? was she like super bulletproof or something

[Lukewarm]

luke im confused, whats the difference between what she says in the upick post-game and the first paragraph of that same 1748 in this game?

maybe im missing something but i don't get the disconnect

I'm gonna spoil this, because the only way to make it clearer is long winded, and probably no one but Fire actually wants the long winded answer.

Spoiler:

In the upick game she said that she has a reputation for bussing her scum buddies, because she views herself as always the weak link, and as such, "why wouldn't she bus?" -- this is her resting, natural view of her position wrt to her partners for the last 3 years. "I am the weak link, I might as well bus to make my partners look good."

In 1748, she is instead claiming that she "most certainly wouldn't have valued Ircher's life above my own and therefore had no reason to bus him."

Her stance on Ircher was settled in posts 30, 104, 105, 109.

She is trying to claim that she would not have written those posts as scum This Game, because she would not value Ircher over herself This Game.

As of post 109, there is no intrinsic reason her, as hypothetical!scum, to have viewed her value comparative to Ircher's as substantially different then her Standard View. No one was pushing him for the TMI yet, he was not a serious wagon.

So, she is either, making an argument just for the sake of clearing herself, that does not actually reflect the game state of when she made the post.

Or, there is an Implied Reason that she would value herself Higher then her Standard View of herself as scum or she would value Ircher Less then her Standard View of her partners as scum.

[Lukewarm]

I‘ll be honoured if anyone compared me to Garfield
It‘s surprisingly accurate lmao

Am I vain, or who? TF do I know I only play invitationals for now.
And also that we live in parallel realities. I <3 this country

Luke scum. He expects me to acknowledge him because he posted a lot of words equalling waaah Titus caught my partner for bad reasons

Waaaah we ride shiny and chrome valhalla style?

VOTE: Roden

Ergh I can‘t stop laughing at all of this including past games

What part of this conversation results in you going back to Roden?

I am confused

[Vivax]

But yeah I‘m vain as fuck. The entire family is, it‘s just not something you show irl if you don‘t wanna get into trouble around here. It‘s rather peaceful and rustical, and if you keep yourself humble on the outside you meet interesting peeps.

But presumably on a forum game I can be artsy, cheeky and whatnot

[Vivax]

I‘ll be honoured if anyone compared me to Garfield
It‘s surprisingly accurate lmao

Am I vain, or who? TF do I know I only play invitationals for now.
And also that we live in parallel realities. I <3 this country

Luke scum. He expects me to acknowledge him because he posted a lot of words equalling waaah Titus caught my partner for bad reasons

Waaaah we ride shiny and chrome valhalla style?

VOTE: Roden

Ergh I can‘t stop laughing at all of this including past games

What part of this conversation results in you going back to Roden?

I am confused

The WAAAAAAAHHHHH part

[Titus]

ok looks like in tft titus got like shot multiple times and didn't die? was she like super bulletproof or something

Intermission

I had one bp once I got someone to align with me.
I got that.

The guy I picked had a self bodyguard.

I picked one other person.

They survived first kill so we all did.

Altogether it took 4 shots to kill 3 people lmao.

Then another toenie claimed our role.

Scum tried soooo gard to lim us with whatever reason they could come up with.

Enchsnt even tried some weak cc part damage shit

And I didn't even put much there bc RL imploded just like here a bit but I plan to post tmo.

Demi likely comes on in 20 minutes.

Dead Sara was amazing!

[Titus]

Couldn't understand most of what the bsnd said but I felt it. Will totally buy their album!

[Titus]

Give me all zee guns! Blood for the VCA gods!

[Lukewarm]

he posted a lot of words equalling waaah Titus caught my partner for bad reasons

To be clear, my reasons to think Titus are scum are the following (trying to make it more succinct) :

-She tried to get ahead of the TMI reasoning, and shoot it down. Repeatedly saying that it was not TMI | 201 204
-She tried to set up SS as a pivot option away from Ircher, calling the TMI case a conveniently timed distraction from SS (while also, bafflingly still calling Ircher scum) | 221 243
-She then dropped the SS stuff, and hard doubled down on calling Ircher scum once the wagon got super serious. The timing looks like it is specifically because of the wagon size. |318 onward

-She also makes the most sense as someone wanting to kill Peta, because Peta was also scum reading her for the above reasons. | 362 371 438

[Titus]

Who is the mod I need to ISO stat

[Lukewarm]

Datisi is the mod lol

[Titus]

Oh hi scumfuck

Succint tears feed the demon in meee fight my eyeball vca I dare you

[Titus]

vote count 1.01

with 21 votes in play, it takes 11 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-09-29 01:45:00).

firing

Ausuka [5]:

Ircher, fireisredsir, Uncrowned, Ydrasse, BlueBloodedToffee

Ydrasse [4]:

Roden, Andresvmb, jjh927, RCEnigma

Ircher [3]:

mastina, petapan, Lukewarm

mastina [3]:

Nero Cain, Malakittens, Klick

Lukewarm [1]:

Vivax

Something_Smart [1]:

PenguinPower

not voting [4]:

Ausuka, furtiveglance, Titus, Something_Smart

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Oh look Lukewarm in bus spot, why did you back off?

[Lukewarm]

Oh look Lukewarm in bus spot, why did you back off?

lol

[Titus]

vote count 1.final

with 21 votes in play, it took 11 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

firing

Ircher [11]:

mastina, Lukewarm, Titus, furtiveglance, Ausuka, RCEnigma, Klick, BlueBloodedToffee, Vivax, PenguinPower, petapan

[HAMMER]

Titus [2]:

Malakittens, fireisredsir

Ydrasse [2]:

Roden, Nero Cain

Vivax [2]:

Andresvmb, Ircher

petapan [1]:

Something_Smart

Roden [1]:

Uncrowned

Malakittens [1]:

jjh927

not voting [1]:

Ydrasse

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Well it looks like you didn't lmfso

Drunk Titus supposing facts match theory


Lol

[Titus]

vote count 1.03

with 21 votes in play, it takes 11 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-09-29 01:45:00).

firing

Ircher [7]:

mastina, Lukewarm, Titus, furtiveglance, Ausuka, Uncrowned, RCEnigma

Ydrasse [4]:

Roden, Andresvmb, jjh927, PenguinPower

Ausuka [4]:

Ircher, fireisredsir, Ydrasse, BlueBloodedToffee

mastina [2]:

Nero Cain, Malakittens

Titus [1]:

petapan

RCEnigma [1]:

Vivax

not voting [2]:

Something_Smart, Klick

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[Titus]

At most one of Ydrasse and Ausuka is scum

[Titus]

I'm done ttl 5 mins until demi

[Titus]

Demi is my crush. So hot emotionally and physically but I hate tatoos on anyone else

[Titus]

Don't worry ubering to hotel tonight

[Titus]

Luke fiiight me I dare uuuuu

[fireisredsir]

luke im confused, whats the difference between what she says in the upick post-game and the first paragraph of that same 1748 in this game?

maybe im missing something but i don't get the disconnect

I'm gonna spoil this, because the only way to make it clearer is long winded, and probably no one but Fire actually wants the long winded answer.

Spoiler:

In the upick game she said that she has a reputation for bussing her scum buddies, because she views herself as always the weak link, and as such, "why wouldn't she bus?" -- this is her resting, natural view of her position wrt to her partners for the last 3 years. "I am the weak link, I might as well bus to make my partners look good."

In 1748, she is instead claiming that she "most certainly wouldn't have valued Ircher's life above my own and therefore had no reason to bus him."

Her stance on Ircher was settled in posts 30, 104, 105, 109.

She is trying to claim that she would not have written those posts as scum This Game, because she would not value Ircher over herself This Game.

As of post 109, there is no intrinsic reason her, as hypothetical!scum, to have viewed her value comparative to Ircher's as substantially different then her Standard View. No one was pushing him for the TMI yet, he was not a serious wagon.

So, she is either, making an argument just for the sake of clearing herself, that does not actually reflect the game state of when she made the post.

Or, there is an Implied Reason that she would value herself Higher then her Standard View of herself as scum or she would value Ircher Less then her Standard View of her partners as scum.

ok i think i follow

the part that confused me was where she said this:

I don't bus my scumbuddies when I know that I need to be kept alive;
I heavily bus my scumbuddies when I believe that they need to be kept alive, but *I* do not. (How does this work? Well, basically, I never plan on being the lategame scum; I always assume I get eliminated. If I get eliminated while laying reads that clear my scumbuddies, then I further my wincon even in death.

and i thought that was more or less the same as "i bus because i don't endgame as scum". but your point is that normally she takes it a step further and says that she usually the weakest link, not just someone who will get eliminated, and would usually value any standard scum's life above hers? so the fact that she's saying she wouldn't have here is a significant deviation from her usual play?

[Titus]

Oh were you planning on faking vig and Vivak true claimed first

[fireisredsir]

Demi is my crush. So hot emotionally and physically but I hate tatoos on anyone else

drunk titus is hilarious i would have never expected to hear this from you