I was disagreeing, not shadingIn post 2071, Ausuka wrote:Uncrowned what do you think of the idea scum might be bussing Roden
I agree with furtive that the idea of resistance is... Meh to me but I think Andres feels kinda town
I think if Dannflor had any genuine interest in sorting me and thought this, the town next step would be asking any questions about any of my readsIn post 2053, Dannflor wrote:Like Klick just seems to be in lockstep with you without any real unique pushes or thoughts of his own.
I appreciate thisIn post 2078, Vivax wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if Klick's were the best reads in the game tbf
Probably one of the players where I'd close my eyes and chainsheep
Why is Mala in the townlock? Answer without using the word vibesIn post 2079, Klick wrote:furtiveglance
Vivax
PenguinPower
fireisredsir
Malakittens
Ausuka
Andresvmb
Uncrowned
Titus
Lukewarm
Ydrasse
mastina
jjh927
Something_Smart
Roden
Dannflor
It's probably worth mentioning that I think Luke/Ydrasse/mastina are all rather unlikely scum
I didn’t say what you actually reacted to, so not sure what you’re talking about. The Roden wagon has been very sticky, and multiple other wagons have been constantly suggested, at times, with the specific intention of saving Roden. It’s not just that there’s a lot of wagons and people have been moving freely and whatnot, which sure that would be “normal” but that’s not what’s happened or what I feel has happened. The stickiness of the Roden wagon + the insistence by a loud minority to divert awayIn post 2070, furtiveglance wrote:What you're describing is a pretty normal gamestate for 17 players each with their own thoughts, I don't think that several people being pushed means that the largest wagon is scum. I think the D1 wagon being so unanimous (eventually) also shows that sometimes mafia is quite easily voted outIn post 2067, Andresvmb wrote:Also, just from a game state perspective, the reason I haven’t been all that keen of moving away from Roden, is that I would naturally expect there to be a lot of resistance to the execution of a player if the Town were roughly moving in the right direction. And you can’t tell me that more than a few alternatives have not been offered to stop Roden from getting executed (Titus, Something_Smart, mastina, to name a few). This is purely circumstantial obviously, and it can be interpreted various different ways (a lot of Scum together pushing the wagon of a Town player stubbornly wouldn’t look that much different to this, except I don’t SR Klick, I think Ydrasse is Town, and I doubt Malakittens is insisting on me being Town just to pocket me).
Roden has been the top wagon since like here and probably a bit before. That’s more the point.In post 1250, Datisi wrote:vote count 2.02
with 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-10-04 01:00:00).
I’ll just explain what I meant because you’re being condescending for literally no reason. Sure people lie in a game of mafia I mean if you want an award for stating the most obvious things you are way ahead of everyone else. No, I meant, in the context of what was being discussed and what you said, assume I am Scum, I don’t bother trying to imitate someone else’s reaction because what’s the point? What do I get? Instead, I either push you there thinking you rescinding your claim opens an avenue of attack. Or I defend you because I think that’ll make me look better. I just felt like smashing you over the head instead. And then I realized it wasn’t worth the effort.In post 2072, Vivax wrote:Lying on a game of forum mafia. Who would ever do that?In post 2064, Andresvmb wrote:You think that as Scum I would try and replicate someone else’s reaction for Town cred? No, I was actually furious for a short 5 seconds until I realized you’re probably just lying. I also don’t think there’s enough power at the beginning of the game if everyone used it to the max to lower the average sufficiently to allow for 3 NKs. I think it’s a rather clever way of ensuring the Scum don’t ever find themselves in a situation where they’re faced with a lot of Town power and cannot escape their fate so to speak further down to line.In post 2050, Vivax wrote:Good question.In post 2048, Andresvmb wrote:Wait, are you for real?In post 2037, Vivax wrote:I rescind my vig claim
I'm a neurobiological correlate of a parallel dimension of sensations and experiences, you?
(But really, scum knows it's nonsense and I am vig, I only give the cred to Ausuka though, so this looks like you're trying to replicate it lol)
Wait...How does anyone get into politics..Hmm. Oh yeah. News is what someone doesn't want you to see, everything else is advertising.
Names and symbols all over the place matter, and wealth makes the rules.
On a more serious note, Dannflor is a beacon of rationality here. I sort of believe your reaction.
Uncrowned is more of a null for me at the moment, but I agree that Roden would be informative. And we got some nice wagons to analyze afterwards.
Mala is mia, hope she's recovering
Mala occasionally pops in with posts that I entirely believe are genuine scumhunting; from any player they might not look that special but I think Mala!scum wouldn't have reads that look as real as Mala's reads do. In contrast, I think a lot of her posts have explicitly not been made with the goal of getting the game at large to townread her (which is what her goal would be if she were scum).In post 2081, furtiveglance wrote:Why is Mala in the townlock? Answer without using the word vibes
What is she even trying to accomplish with this content if she's scum, she already said this. She just wants her most confident read in town-Andres to be heard because she's townIn post 1600, Malakittens wrote:Id townbin andresIn post 1595, Vivax wrote:UNVOTE:
Luke, mastina, (???)
I don‘t know, maybe Ydrasse for third
But I‘m never limming Roden today I think after re-ISOing.
This extremely obstinate defense almost always comes from town in my experience. Especially when it‘s so genuinely egocentrist at times (not negatively connotated as it‘s a townie process)
This is def his row. Meta
I am not 100% sure what you are asking, because "how scum think about the game" Is not something that you can really answer with an answer that is not too long. When I am scum, my thoughts on the game state are constantly shifting, so hard to define. I don't think how scum act "in general" is super useful metric, because individual situations call for individual responses - Also shifts away from how different people play scum. For example, I don't think I have the guts to put all 3 of my scum partners right in a row in the bottom of my scum reads (or town reads for that matter), but I have seen multiple other people do exactly that (Mastina and Not Known 15 off the top of my head)In post 2058, Ausuka wrote:Hmm, I mean, it's possible that I'm onto literally nothing here. I think it'd help if you tell me how you think scum in general tend to think about the game and their partners in particular? It doesn't have to be too long.
I don't think I was being condescending. Rather, mirroring. You have tonally always approached me aggressively in this game, so you're playing to expect aggression back. If I don't play into it, that could make me mafia. If I do, then I do what you want.In post 2086, Andresvmb wrote:I’ll just explain what I meant because you’re being condescending for literally no reason. Sure people lie in a game of mafia I mean if you want an award for stating the most obvious things you are way ahead of everyone else. No, I meant, in the context of what was being discussed and what you said, assume I am Scum, I don’t bother trying to imitate someone else’s reaction because what’s the point? What do I get? Instead, I either push you there thinking you rescinding your claim opens an avenue of attack. Or I defend you because I think that’ll make me look better. I just felt like smashing you over the head instead. And then I realized it wasn’t worth the effort.In post 2072, Vivax wrote:Lying on a game of forum mafia. Who would ever do that?In post 2064, Andresvmb wrote:You think that as Scum I would try and replicate someone else’s reaction for Town cred? No, I was actually furious for a short 5 seconds until I realized you’re probably just lying. I also don’t think there’s enough power at the beginning of the game if everyone used it to the max to lower the average sufficiently to allow for 3 NKs. I think it’s a rather clever way of ensuring the Scum don’t ever find themselves in a situation where they’re faced with a lot of Town power and cannot escape their fate so to speak further down to line.In post 2050, Vivax wrote:Good question.In post 2048, Andresvmb wrote:Wait, are you for real?In post 2037, Vivax wrote:I rescind my vig claim
I'm a neurobiological correlate of a parallel dimension of sensations and experiences, you?
(But really, scum knows it's nonsense and I am vig, I only give the cred to Ausuka though, so this looks like you're trying to replicate it lol)
Wait...How does anyone get into politics..Hmm. Oh yeah. News is what someone doesn't want you to see, everything else is advertising.
Names and symbols all over the place matter, and wealth makes the rules.
On a more serious note, Dannflor is a beacon of rationality here. I sort of believe your reaction.
Uncrowned is more of a null for me at the moment, but I agree that Roden would be informative. And we got some nice wagons to analyze afterwards.
Mala is mia, hope she's recovering
I have mentioned a few times that I felt like his interaction with Ausuka reeked of tvt to me.In post 2090, Klick wrote:Luke can you tell me why Roden's town or otherwise point me to where you already said why Roden's town
Even if we make the leap to say that no member of the scum team realized that a fake claim should probably have growing percentage costs, I just don't think that there is a world where scum!Roden, who is able to say what ever the hell he wants about his fake claimed role, says that the modifier costs 0%.
I can work with this. It's not perfect but fine for today but I'm never voting mastina unless something drastic changes.In post 2079, Klick wrote:furtiveglance
Vivax
PenguinPower
fireisredsir
Malakittens
Ausuka
Andresvmb
Uncrowned
Titus
Lukewarm
Ydrasse
mastina
jjh927
Something_Smart
Roden
Dannflor
Wifom. Fake posts are posted.In post 2092, Lukewarm wrote:Given the context of his earlier posts, in what world does scum!Roden think that this answer is going to do anything but hurt him? Like this is an actively self sabotaging answer when scum can give any answer they want
Just shouting wifom is a cop out. Scum can do literally anything, the point is which is more likely.In post 2094, Titus wrote:Wifom. Fake posts are posted.In post 2092, Lukewarm wrote:Given the context of his earlier posts, in what world does scum!Roden think that this answer is going to do anything but hurt him? Like this is an actively self sabotaging answer when scum can give any answer they want
You don't think it's likely at all, because that fits your worldview.In post 2097, Lukewarm wrote:Just shouting wifom is a cop out. Scum can do literally anything, the point is which is more likely.In post 2094, Titus wrote:Wifom. Fake posts are posted.In post 2092, Lukewarm wrote:Given the context of his earlier posts, in what world does scum!Roden think that this answer is going to do anything but hurt him? Like this is an actively self sabotaging answer when scum can give any answer they want
I just don't think it is very likely at all, that given the situation that he was in, he would take that avenue as scum. And therefore, it being the truth is the more likely reality we live in.