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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:53 am

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This game is getting exciting, but also frustrating. I'm at a point where I think I have a broadly correct poe of Dannflor (it should be Dannflor not RC btw Datisi), Malakittens, Something Smart, maybe Titus/Ydrasse, but it's hard to get those votes going. Let's see if we can revive the S_S wagon.

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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:54 am

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I almost want to vote Titus just to do what several dead Town players have been pushing for now, so I’m not against it, but I’m curious as to what people think is going on.

I’m also actually annoyed Ausuka is dead because I was actually able to clear them based off of , and now almost every player I’ve felt really good about has been NK’ed (except for Ydrasse).
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:55 am

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VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:55 am

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In post 2275, furtiveglance wrote:(it should be Dannflor not RC btw Datisi)
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:55 am

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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:57 am

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In post 2275, furtiveglance wrote:This game is getting exciting, but also frustrating. I'm at a point where I think I have a broadly correct poe of Dannflor (it should be Dannflor not RC btw Datisi), Malakittens, Something Smart, maybe Titus/Ydrasse, but it's hard to get those votes going. Let's see if we can revive the S_S wagon.

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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:58 am

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In post 2276, Andresvmb wrote:I almost want to vote Titus just to do what several dead Town players have been pushing for now, so I’m not against it, but I’m curious as to what people think is going on.

I’m also actually annoyed Ausuka is dead because I was actually able to clear them based off of , and now almost every player I’ve felt really good about has been NK’ed (except for Ydrasse).
This isn't as relevant as other things right now, but why did you townread ? I thought it was one of Ausuka's more sus posts.
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:58 am

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I genuinely have forgotten. Is there a reason Ausuka wouldn't have been a vig shot?
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:58 am

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Because, I'd be surprised if Vivax didn't shoot but scum still got two kills.
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:58 am

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In post 2276, Andresvmb wrote:I almost want to vote Titus just to do what several dead Town players have been pushing for now, so I’m not against it, but I’m curious as to what people think is going on.

I’m also actually annoyed Ausuka is dead because I was actually able to clear them based off of , and now almost every player I’ve felt really good about has been NK’ed (except for Ydrasse).
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:58 am

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In post 2272, Ydrasse wrote:did titus ever claim a pt because. Um . well
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:59 am

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In post 2274, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2270, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2089, Lukewarm wrote:I will be insufferable until we kill Titus

VOTE: titus
If you’re right, why are you still alive, and Ausuka dead? Just curious what your thoughts are on that.
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Ausuka is an odd kill, like I town read her, but don't remember that being a super wide spread thought. Might have been a pr guess actually, idk.
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:59 am

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In post 2285, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 2272, Ydrasse wrote:did titus ever claim a pt because. Um . well
Titus has not claimed anything that I am aware of
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:01 am

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VOTE: titus

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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:01 am

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In post 2281, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2276, Andresvmb wrote:I almost want to vote Titus just to do what several dead Town players have been pushing for now, so I’m not against it, but I’m curious as to what people think is going on.

I’m also actually annoyed Ausuka is dead because I was actually able to clear them based off of , and now almost every player I’ve felt really good about has been NK’ed (except for Ydrasse).
This isn't as relevant as other things right now, but why did you townread ? I thought it was one of Ausuka's more sus posts.
I wrote in my notes that I didn’t think Ausuka was operating with TMI, and that that post in particular was quite good.
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:01 am

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titus should claim if she has a neighborhood when she’s around
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:01 am

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Aha no reason though
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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:02 am

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In post 2282, Something_Smart wrote:I genuinely have forgotten. Is there a reason Ausuka wouldn't have been a vig shot?
Vivax said he would not have a shot last night, but I guess he could have been lying.

I don't feel like he would have shot ausuka tho, given he was one of the people who voted Titus yesterday I would have expected his shot, if it happened, to have gone there
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:04 am

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In post 2275, furtiveglance wrote:This game is getting exciting, but also frustrating. I'm at a point where I think I have a broadly correct poe of Dannflor (it should be Dannflor not RC btw Datisi), Malakittens, Something Smart, maybe Titus/Ydrasse, but it's hard to get those votes going. Let's see if we can revive the S_S wagon.

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In post 2291, Ydrasse wrote:Aha no reason though
Nice save.

Might have thought you were softing something if not for this post
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:04 am

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In post 2115, jjh927 wrote:Now, Dannflor, do you want to talk about Klick
Anyway

I lean scum here. I find the way they developed reads throughout D1 to be a little performative? I suppose I should have done by homework to see whether Klick always does the giant list which they gradually strike out - but experiencing it for the first time I got the impression that Klick was "doing things just to do them"

I feel like there's a lot of posts that reinforce that to me too

Like or that are just observations? I think scum that goes unnoticed under the radar a lot are scum that are skilled at making observations without a lot of hard stances and reading through Klick's ISO I get the impression that they are doing stuff but not what they are doing? And the frankly the scum team of Dannflor/Roden/not-too-deep-deep-wolf feels... not very high-level for the amount of sorting Klick seems to want to appear to be doing?

I also find their Ircher vote, stating that they don't really have an opinion on the scum slip one way or another, a probable bus vote, but I realize I may be entering conf-bias territory with this point

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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:06 am

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In post 2292, Lukewarm wrote:Vivax said he would not have a shot last night, but I guess he could have been lying.

I don't feel like he would have shot ausuka tho, given he was one of the people who voted Titus yesterday I would have expected his shot, if it happened, to have gone there
He said "I have to holster tonight", but it's not clear whether that was a mechanical claim or a statement of best play. If it was a mechanical claim, it was a lie (or an error).

He also expressed concern about a roleblocker, so he presumably was not being totally open about his plans. Similarly, if he feared a scum doctor, he might not have shot the most obvious target.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:06 am

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In post 1498, Vivax wrote:Preference remains RCE > Roden
Taking tinfoil on Ausuka & Titus for the legacy analysis from Luke (Ausuka being sassy semi-openscummer and Titus having a marked difference in characterizing Ircher's reason of absence from FG earlier on)
I mean, *maybe* he would shoot there.

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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:07 am

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I would imagine Ausuka is a vig shot

I think she was viably in the miselimination pool and unless scum saw something they thought was a crumb or something I doubt they take that shot
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:08 am

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Klick is such a bad push I don’t trust Dannflor very much right now. Their vote D1 in is being forgotten all of a sudden, just as momentum was turning against Vivax?
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:08 am

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In post 2295, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2292, Lukewarm wrote:Vivax said he would not have a shot last night, but I guess he could have been lying.

I don't feel like he would have shot ausuka tho, given he was one of the people who voted Titus yesterday I would have expected his shot, if it happened, to have gone there
He said "I have to holster tonight", but it's not clear whether that was a mechanical claim or a statement of best play. If it was a mechanical claim, it was a lie (or an error).

He also expressed concern about a roleblocker, so he presumably was not being totally open about his plans. Similarly, if he feared a scum doctor, he might not have shot the most obvious target.
My original reading was that his second shot was more then 100%, but on the flip that was wrong.

My second thought was he dropped down to 50% to try and stop the bonus kill. Have not looked at any numbers to see if it would make sense for them to get a bonus kill if he was running at 50%
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