Datisi's Café [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 3.02

with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 20:00:00).

firing

Titus [5]:

Malakittens, Andresvmb, Klick, Dannflor, Lukewarm

Lukewarm [1]:

Titus

fireisredsir [1]:

mastina

not voting [7]:

PenguinPower, furtiveglance, Uncrowned, jjh927, Something_Smart, Ydrasse, fireisredsir

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[mastina]

Mastina, why have you not reached the conclusion that Fire could just be a roleblocker yet

I mean possible but unlikely; scum would have reason to believe they'd be wasting their roleblock on me.

Then how do you explain the no result? If Fire had a role that would cause your action to fail, he would not have needed to worry about your 'guilty' whatsoever

Yes he would because an unclaimed ascetic on D3 after an unspecified guilty result = not going to work.

What if I had claimed Loyal (literally any role that gets results)? Loyal (any role acting) would fail, and get a guilty. Ergo, he couldn't claim ascetic and have it be believed because it would be tailoring the claim to fit mine conveniently.

[mastina]

Like, from your POV right now, is Fire a mafia ascetic tracker? You're making multiple leaps of logic at the same time and I don't think you can feasibly jump that far

That or a mafia tracker with a separate scum rolestopper.

[mastina]

(You are free to not answer if you think the answer is detrimental to the town.)

[mastina]

(I'm literally an hour and half late for leaving for work so gotta go.)

[Dannflor]

do you have a comment on the titus/ydrasse situation, mastina

[Malakittens]

zzzzzzzzzzoooooooooooooooooooom
byeeeeeeeeeee titus
you scumrat

<3

[Klick]

Why would the scum roleblock me?

Picture this: Mafia Rolecop targeted you N1, so they blocked you N2.

Thoughts?

[Klick]

Dann doesn't feel like scum right now
I'm rather confused

[furtiveglance]

I have returned, it seems that Titus is neither clear nor outted, right? Or are they outted?

[Titus]

I have returned, it seems that Titus is neither clear nor outted, right? Or are they outted?

Neither clear nor outed but the same people parking me from yesterday are parking me today.

[Titus]

vote count 2.11

with 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-10-04 01:00:00).

firing

Roden [7]:

mastina, Andresvmb, Malakittens, Ydrasse, Titus, Uncrowned, PenguinPower

Titus [5]:

Roden, Lukewarm, Ausuka, Dannflor, Vivax

Malakittens [1]:

furtiveglance

Dannflor [1]:

fireisredsir

not voting [3]:

jjh927, Something_Smart, Klick

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[Titus]

The only real exception is Andresvmb who swapped because there's a decent chance he's scum.

[mastina]

Work phoneposting, but:
1: can't keep up with thread from work, so no further commentary now.

I realized that I rushed some things eg fire claim not acknowledged, but I promise that when I am not 2 hours late for work, I'll be able to talk more about everything.

2: I realize that I didn't comment on Titus's claim. It's due to the above, I was rushing to not be 2 hours late for work, but it radiates being a scumclaim in 10 different ways. I can explain why it's such a suspect claim when back, but it has to do with her role vs. Mine, and her claimed format, how it works, etc.
Does that make her scum?
Well, probably, yeah.
I'm voting fire because fire is scum with just as much certainty if not more, and I want to make that clear as A statement, but I hold no delusions here; I'm fully aware that the Elim today is Titus, and I agree with it due to how scum her claim is. Is her role actually scum, fucked if I know, but her claim is scum regardless of whether her alignment is, if that makes sense.

3: I need to go through the day again and give non-fire-centric thoughts, off of changed information.

For instance, Ydrasse locktownned, jjh locktownned, PP locktownned, and the big one: Lukewarm locktownned, among others.

Another biggie:
Obviously, Klick and Dann aren't scum together.
But both individually are ambivalent to me: having reasons to be town, but also, reasons to be scum. They COULD be TvT, but aren't sVs, and still have a decent chance of having scum.

Klick is potentially scum for some things yet town for others, Dann is potentially scum by play but might have townslipped yet the townslip is fakeable.

[mastina]

Oh forgot to mention, Fire claim still scum regardless of tracker or tracker type action as it fulfills the same role on a scumteam: weak investigative role which doesn’t give too much info, is still useful to the scum, yet works as plausibly town.

[mastina]

Oh forgot to mention, Fire claim still scum regardless of tracker or tracker type action as it fulfills the same role on a scumteam: weak investigative role which doesn’t give too much info, is still useful to the scum, yet works as plausibly town.

Also on that note, guaranteed scum in Titus/fire and pikely both, for one reason:

How many investigative roles do you think we have?

We've got the dead, me, Ydrasse, Titus, and fire all as having investigative actions.

[Lukewarm]

Plus, her read on me feels like TMI, since she clearly thinks she knows something about my role and I don't see how she can be that confident about it (even if she is right).

For the exact same reason I know jjh is town and knew Ircher was scum and know Roden is scum.

So, yes, it is a form of TMI, but in this case originating from town. The town who have paid attention that are in the know, are in the know and basically are a gigantic masonry as far as I'm concerned. {Vivax, jjh, Something_Smart, PenguinPower} is a pool which never contains scum if I'm right, here.

jjh probably knows what I know. He may or may not agree, mind you, but he probably sees what I am seeing at least.

You and PenguinPower, if I am right, might be able to figure it out, too. But obviously, the less said, the better, because I don't want to give anything away which would let scum infiltrate the holy masonry.

mastina can you explain this yet? especially since you were wrong about Roden

Oh do you really want me to?

If you insist.

You're scum or a PR, period.

There's no way you're a VT in this game and if you claim VT I'm instavoting you.

Vivax has been fired night 2. he was a

law student

, aligned with

café's employees

.

Spoiler: role pm

law student

welcome,

Vivax

! you are a

law student

, aligned with

café's employees

!

originally, you thought this job was just going to help you pay the bills. it soon turned out, however, that your knowledge can be used for finding ways to get people fired.

day abilities:

during each day, you may choose how productive you're going to be at work that day, ranging from 0% to 100%. if you do not submit anything, you will default to 100% productivity. for a complete explanation of this mechanic, please read the setup post, located here.

night abilities:

vigilante [cost: 90%; +10% for each additional usage]

- during the night, target a player to attempt to get them fired.

win condition:

you win once all threats to

café's employees

have been fired, and at least one member of

café's employees

is still in the game.

the main thread is here. please confirm by replying to this pm with your role name.

Ausuka has been fired night 2. she was a

vanilla waiter

, aligned with

café's employees

.

Spoiler: role pm

vanilla waiter

welcome,

Ausuka

! you are a

vanilla waiter

, aligned with

café's employees

!

this job sucks, but it beats being homeless.

day abilities:

during each day, you may choose how productive you're going to be at work that day, ranging from 0% to 100%. if you do not submit anything, you will default to 100% productivity. for a complete explanation of this mechanic, please read the setup post, located here.

night abilities:

n/a

win condition:

you win once all threats to

café's employees

have been fired, and at least one member of

café's employees

is still in the game.

the main thread is here. please confirm by replying to this pm with your role name.

the sun rises, it is now day three.

Lol

[Lukewarm]

I have returned, it seems that Titus is neither clear nor outted, right? Or are they outted?

Neither clear nor outed but the same people parking me from yesterday are parking me today.

Wait.

Maybe I misread her post

[Lukewarm]

I retract

[furtiveglance]

I retract

Did you ever claim?

[Lukewarm]

No

I retract post 2641

[Lukewarm]

I don't know how or why 2642 has that quote on it.

It was referencing back to 2641, and now I see why that was not clear with the surprise quote

[furtiveglance]

No

I retract post 2641

Ok, well that one went right over my head anyway, so nothing to worry about.

[furtiveglance]

i have a role where i can check to see if people have pts(EXCEPT THE MAFIA PT) and join them if they do

titus doesn’t have any pts

I am waiting for the mod. Technically accurate. I had a conditional action to masonize mastina if no one visited her. It resolves last in nar.

Wait I thought you were already masons. Didn't you say we could tell your partner from logs earlier, which implies you already had a mason partner?

I crumbed her as my target.

Is this something people do/would do/have seen done? I don't see the point of crumbing a mason target.

[Lukewarm]

i have a role where i can check to see if people have pts(EXCEPT THE MAFIA PT) and join them if they do

titus doesn’t have any pts

I am waiting for the mod. Technically accurate. I had a conditional action to masonize mastina if no one visited her. It resolves last in nar.

Wait I thought you were already masons. Didn't you say we could tell your partner from logs earlier, which implies you already had a mason partner?

I crumbed her as my target.

Is this something people do/would do/have seen done? I don't see the point of crumbing a mason target.

The part of her claim that would make that make any sense would be the Loyal modifier.

If you have the loyal modifier, crumbing who you will be targeting is pretty standard

But she did not actually claim to be loyal when she was told to claim, she claimed it after people asked her why she crumbed her target.