If blue and teal are intruder slots, where is the intruder motivation here?In post 233, Masquerader Teal wrote:I don't like green anymoreRescind offer to dance with greenI think their posts are little empty. I think finding me suspicious after page 1 after blue did as well seems like piggybacking onto something that doesn't actually have substance.
I like Magenta though I am liking their thought process on a couple of things.
If they want to pair that's fine I guess but I think green is more likely of the two to be scum so I'd rather pair with Magenta.
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I am not sure how blue would relate to this post. However if assuming teal scum then the motivation would be thinking one of the other players unpaired has longer longevity but I haven’t read enough to take a stance on teal.In post 325, Masquerader Purple wrote:
If blue and teal are intruder slots, where is the intruder motivation here?In post 233, Masquerader Teal wrote:I don't like green anymoreRescind offer to dance with greenI think their posts are little empty. I think finding me suspicious after page 1 after blue did as well seems like piggybacking onto something that doesn't actually have substance.
I like Magenta though I am liking their thought process on a couple of things.
If they want to pair that's fine I guess but I think green is more likely of the two to be scum so I'd rather pair with Magenta.- Masquerader Cyan
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You're either making sense, have the gift of a silver tongue or both. Until you replaced in I wasn't going to vote blue.In post 327, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Intruder teal, again an assumption, would have thought teal had a better shot with magenta rather than green. Considering the posts after of green’s anger I kinda think that decision is not alignment indicative. That anger of green’s was loud.
Also, I am assuming both teal and blue are intruders and looking for reasons why that can be wrong. I believe olive's changing stance on magenta and green could have been the motivation
In post 178, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I definitely want red to be paired but with Cyan now off the market, whoever I think is more likely to be invitee between you and blue.In post 171, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@red, i re read your post and while I think my initial 'negative vibes ' impression is still valid, it's not quite as bad as I thought. There are some take.aways, but I guess I find it easier to find town than scum and that affects my take on those kind of posts. In particular, I think what you said about green was well thought through, that their logic seemed backwards.
Their posting on this page is terribad.
I wanted to dance with teal but also really want their catch up. Would anyone oppose this pairing?
Rn, I lean you over blue because they’re not doing as much.In post 183, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I’m not commenting on posts that I don’t see as currently relevant. If you’d been paying attention, you’d know I no long hold that opinion.In post 179, Masquerader Green wrote:
how could you see it as thatIn post 43, Masquerader Olive wrote:
Yeah, good point. I could see that as a possible perspective slip.In post 41, Masquerader Yellow wrote:The usual phrasing would be "Äre you still confused
about why I do not trust olive, red?"
Not why red should not trust them.
I think in context Purple's comment that Yellow was reacting to made way more sense. The most charitable interpretation of this is you were taking Yellow's comments at face value, which shows lack of effort on your part to determine the quote was not doctored.
Also, @Magenta, what makes my posting on the previous page "terribad"?In post 184, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I liked magenta’s recent posts. Blue could be anything. I don’t have any issue with anything they’ve posted but it’s more that they haven’t really done too much for awhile, so with little time left, I’d expect them to be more active. I suppose they could just be a bored invitee?In post 180, Masquerader Purple wrote:Magenta seems the most suspicious to me. I'm not sure where their interest in teal comes from or their suspicion of red. Magenta seems to be the most worried about finding a partner (and how they will be perceived for asking or accepting) and the least worried about finding the intruders. If they wish, olive can elaborate on the depth of their feelings toward magenta and I will listen. I have read magenta's recent posting and am not impressed.
Green looks like an invitee who was wrongly accused or an intruder who is angry because they feel they were caught for wrong reasons. I don't know. The fact they seem unlikely to receive a partner probably means they are most likely to be invitee of the players I suspect. It's possible that magenta saw through the layers of wifom and asked to be paired with teal so that they would end up paired green, however, unless someone objects, since magenta and green seem so anxious to receive a partner and haven't voiced too much suspicion of each other, why not pair up together?
Teal dropping out looks like intruder who was pushed from the beginning of the game and lost morale over time. It could also be an invitee who lost morale or became sick and ran out of energy, though I consider this alternative explanation less likely. It hasn't escaped my attention that despite their claims to be slow in forming reads, here as the eleventh hour approaches they are even more absent than they were at the beginning. I think teal avoided outting reads and when they did out reads they sounded suspicious. I prefer that teal be left without a partner just to be rid of them.
I'm a bit at odds with olive here on blue: I'm willing to gamble blue is invitee (though it would be amusing if the intruders were blue and teal and the intruders have given up posting altogether) and I'm optimistic their absence is as frustrating to the intruder's as it is to us. Red will likely be an ideal target to be killed with an automaton and being paired with new blue may be a double edged-sword. The intruders have little information to guess new blue's identity, as we have little information to sort them. I prefer to tempt fate and hope new blue's absence is nai and that they will provide some protection to red by being awkward for the intruders to guess.
All I can say about cyan and yellow is that I really hope they are invitee. Cyan seemed genuine in their ketchup and yellow is yellow. I mean I can say more than that but I'll leave it there.
I think it's logical for teal to pair with magenta over green based on olive's read of magenta.In post 188, Masquerader Olive wrote:
It was an opinion that I held that I no longer do and good for you I guess,In post 186, Masquerader Green wrote:like, I recognized you no longer held that stance, but I think it was a bad stance to begin with.- Masquerader Cyan
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I hope it’s a little of both. I tend to fair better when people don’t know who I am. I wouldn’t go rearranging reads for blue right now. I just expressed my opinion right now.In post 329, Masquerader Purple wrote:
You're either making sense, have the gift of a silver tongue or both. Until you replaced in I wasn't going to vote blue.In post 327, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Intruder teal, again an assumption, would have thought teal had a better shot with magenta rather than green. Considering the posts after of green’s anger I kinda think that decision is not alignment indicative. That anger of green’s was loud.
Also, I am assuming both teal and blue are intruders and looking for reasons why that can be wrong. I believe olive's changing stance on magenta and green could have been the motivation
In post 178, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I definitely want red to be paired but with Cyan now off the market, whoever I think is more likely to be invitee between you and blue.In post 171, Masquerader Magenta wrote:@red, i re read your post and while I think my initial 'negative vibes ' impression is still valid, it's not quite as bad as I thought. There are some take.aways, but I guess I find it easier to find town than scum and that affects my take on those kind of posts. In particular, I think what you said about green was well thought through, that their logic seemed backwards.
Their posting on this page is terribad.
I wanted to dance with teal but also really want their catch up. Would anyone oppose this pairing?
Rn, I lean you over blue because they’re not doing as much.In post 183, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I’m not commenting on posts that I don’t see as currently relevant. If you’d been paying attention, you’d know I no long hold that opinion.In post 179, Masquerader Green wrote:
how could you see it as thatIn post 43, Masquerader Olive wrote:
Yeah, good point. I could see that as a possible perspective slip.In post 41, Masquerader Yellow wrote:The usual phrasing would be "Äre you still confused
about why I do not trust olive, red?"
Not why red should not trust them.
I think in context Purple's comment that Yellow was reacting to made way more sense. The most charitable interpretation of this is you were taking Yellow's comments at face value, which shows lack of effort on your part to determine the quote was not doctored.
Also, @Magenta, what makes my posting on the previous page "terribad"?In post 184, Masquerader Olive wrote:
I liked magenta’s recent posts. Blue could be anything. I don’t have any issue with anything they’ve posted but it’s more that they haven’t really done too much for awhile, so with little time left, I’d expect them to be more active. I suppose they could just be a bored invitee?In post 180, Masquerader Purple wrote:Magenta seems the most suspicious to me. I'm not sure where their interest in teal comes from or their suspicion of red. Magenta seems to be the most worried about finding a partner (and how they will be perceived for asking or accepting) and the least worried about finding the intruders. If they wish, olive can elaborate on the depth of their feelings toward magenta and I will listen. I have read magenta's recent posting and am not impressed.
Green looks like an invitee who was wrongly accused or an intruder who is angry because they feel they were caught for wrong reasons. I don't know. The fact they seem unlikely to receive a partner probably means they are most likely to be invitee of the players I suspect. It's possible that magenta saw through the layers of wifom and asked to be paired with teal so that they would end up paired green, however, unless someone objects, since magenta and green seem so anxious to receive a partner and haven't voiced too much suspicion of each other, why not pair up together?
Teal dropping out looks like intruder who was pushed from the beginning of the game and lost morale over time. It could also be an invitee who lost morale or became sick and ran out of energy, though I consider this alternative explanation less likely. It hasn't escaped my attention that despite their claims to be slow in forming reads, here as the eleventh hour approaches they are even more absent than they were at the beginning. I think teal avoided outting reads and when they did out reads they sounded suspicious. I prefer that teal be left without a partner just to be rid of them.
I'm a bit at odds with olive here on blue: I'm willing to gamble blue is invitee (though it would be amusing if the intruders were blue and teal and the intruders have given up posting altogether) and I'm optimistic their absence is as frustrating to the intruder's as it is to us. Red will likely be an ideal target to be killed with an automaton and being paired with new blue may be a double edged-sword. The intruders have little information to guess new blue's identity, as we have little information to sort them. I prefer to tempt fate and hope new blue's absence is nai and that they will provide some protection to red by being awkward for the intruders to guess.
All I can say about cyan and yellow is that I really hope they are invitee. Cyan seemed genuine in their ketchup and yellow is yellow. I mean I can say more than that but I'll leave it there.
I think it's logical for teal to pair with magenta over green based on olive's read of magenta.In post 188, Masquerader Olive wrote:
It was an opinion that I held that I no longer do and good for you I guess,In post 186, Masquerader Green wrote:like, I recognized you no longer held that stance, but I think it was a bad stance to begin with.
I am more wanting to get a mindset and a feel of the game. Do you trust your hoodmate?
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Genuine, shade or distancing?In post 94, Masquerader Teal wrote:I'm also a little wary of blue mostly for the predecessor's reads; the more I think about them, the more I don't like them. I feel the "yay, role play!" is in a similar vein to me joking about asking the back-up mod to dance so I think blue just is stiff and picked people who were looser because blue doesn't play that way and assumed that people joking around are doing so nervously, trying to hide something. Or something. I don't really know. Regardless, I'd like more from new blue as well before I can say that I truly worry about blue or not.- Masquerader Cyan
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That’s my first impression of blue. So I would go with shade. I think teal + blue doesn’t work as a pair based on what I see so far. Again what do you make of your hoodmate?In post 331, Masquerader Purple wrote:
Genuine, shade or distancing?In post 94, Masquerader Teal wrote:I'm also a little wary of blue mostly for the predecessor's reads; the more I think about them, the more I don't like them. I feel the "yay, role play!" is in a similar vein to me joking about asking the back-up mod to dance so I think blue just is stiff and picked people who were looser because blue doesn't play that way and assumed that people joking around are doing so nervously, trying to hide something. Or something. I don't really know. Regardless, I'd like more from new blue as well before I can say that I truly worry about blue or not.- Masquerader Cyan
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Not shade*In post 332, Masquerader Cyan wrote:
That’s my first impression of blue. So I would go with shade. I think teal + blue doesn’t work as a pair based on what I see so far. Again what do you make of your hoodmate?In post 331, Masquerader Purple wrote:
Genuine, shade or distancing?In post 94, Masquerader Teal wrote:I'm also a little wary of blue mostly for the predecessor's reads; the more I think about them, the more I don't like them. I feel the "yay, role play!" is in a similar vein to me joking about asking the back-up mod to dance so I think blue just is stiff and picked people who were looser because blue doesn't play that way and assumed that people joking around are doing so nervously, trying to hide something. Or something. I don't really know. Regardless, I'd like more from new blue as well before I can say that I truly worry about blue or not.
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Have you noticed anything which would rule out a teal and yellow pairing? I believe olive is more likely to be an invitee than an intruder.In post 330, Masquerader Cyan wrote:I hope it’s a little of both. I tend to fair better when people don’t know who I am. I wouldn’t go rearranging reads for blue right now. I just expressed my opinion right now.
I am more wanting to get a mindset and a feel of the game. Do you trust your hoodmate?
I want to establish if both scum are together. Unless yellow starts improving or someone gives a good reason yellow is an invitee I may take my mask off. Just flirting with the idea.- Masquerader Purple
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I could see that. More likely than blue and teal for sure.In post 112, Masquerader Yellow wrote:Teal's post about dancing with Datisi was clearly a joke.
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Still reading and responding at the same time.In post 335, Masquerader Purple wrote:It sounds like you read the red and teal interaction as invitee versus invitee.
I am okay invitee assigning red. I don’t have a hard read on Teal either way.
Yellow has some things that scare me: Replace no post, weird opening
Blue is dodging questions to help catch up.
This doesn’t mean I scumread them together more they both set off my poke at them radar.- Masquerader Blue
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In post 303, RH wrote:In post 302, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 298, RH wrote:In post 293, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 252, Datisi wrote:Session I concludes in 2 days, 22 hours, 7 minutes.
how do deadlines work?Assuming that it's directed at me and Datisi, I originally intended that if no players reach majority, it will be counted as a No-Lim.
However, upon realising that a majority in ELO is almost identical to Exiting the Session by a player's own accord, I'll allow plurality by seniority for ELO if ties occur.
Otherwise, there's no Plurality.
so what happens if we don't get 5 votes on a pair by the deadline?I'll count it as a No-Lim. So nobody exits.
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Why so negative? Why not help us get an elim?In post 338, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 303, RH wrote:In post 302, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 298, RH wrote:In post 293, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 252, Datisi wrote:Session I concludes in 2 days, 22 hours, 7 minutes.
how do deadlines work?Assuming that it's directed at me and Datisi, I originally intended that if no players reach majority, it will be counted as a No-Lim.
However, upon realising that a majority in ELO is almost identical to Exiting the Session by a player's own accord, I'll allow plurality by seniority for ELO if ties occur.
Otherwise, there's no Plurality.
so what happens if we don't get 5 votes on a pair by the deadline?I'll count it as a No-Lim. So nobody exits.
so what happens then? do we get a new session or do the mafia get to kill?- Masquerader Blue
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push where?In post 314, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Funny because this summary is how I feel about Blue so far.
There’s a lot of declarative statements and a few open ended questions but not seeing a push anywhere. Does this improve?
the only three people viable to be eliminated at that point are people I town-read- Masquerader Blue
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I want to know what happens if we are unable to reach consensusIn post 339, Masquerader Cyan wrote:
Why so negative? Why not help us get an elim?In post 338, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 303, RH wrote:In post 302, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 298, RH wrote:In post 293, Masquerader Blue wrote:In post 252, Datisi wrote:Session I concludes in 2 days, 22 hours, 7 minutes.
how do deadlines work?Assuming that it's directed at me and Datisi, I originally intended that if no players reach majority, it will be counted as a No-Lim.
However, upon realising that a majority in ELO is almost identical to Exiting the Session by a player's own accord, I'll allow plurality by seniority for ELO if ties occur.
Otherwise, there's no Plurality.
so what happens if we don't get 5 votes on a pair by the deadline?I'll count it as a No-Lim. So nobody exits.
so what happens then? do we get a new session or do the mafia get to kill?
if we get a time extension then I am less likely to compromise
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We’ve had massive replacements. It’s pretty much a blank slate. Sell me on someone.In post 340, Masquerader Blue wrote:
push where?In post 314, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Funny because this summary is how I feel about Blue so far.
There’s a lot of declarative statements and a few open ended questions but not seeing a push anywhere. Does this improve?
the only three people viable to be eliminated at that point are people I town-read- Masquerader Purple
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In post 280, RH wrote:Replacing Yellow
If they return before a replacement is found, they may keep their slot.In post 282, Masquerader Yellow wrote:I would like to post now.
Not really.
Someone said something about a PT.
Are we all supposed to have PTs?In post 283, Masquerader Yellow wrote:In post 270, Masquerader Magenta wrote:Teal's PT content is basically non existent, doubting that read now.Old yellow wasn't replaced by the way, new cyan.
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It would help if you explained your invitee read on teal and addressed new cyan's entrance.In post 340, Masquerader Blue wrote:
push where?In post 314, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Funny because this summary is how I feel about Blue so far.
There’s a lot of declarative statements and a few open ended questions but not seeing a push anywhere. Does this improve?
the only three people viable to be eliminated at that point are people I town-read- Masquerader Cyan
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They had no posts in PTs since then and no posts here and there were almost no posts in between. I didn’t look at the time stamps and generally don’t. The time between with no posts is very suspicious though.In post 343, Masquerader Purple wrote:In post 280, RH wrote:Replacing Yellow
If they return before a replacement is found, they may keep their slot.In post 282, Masquerader Yellow wrote:I would like to post now.
Not really.
Someone said something about a PT.
Are we all supposed to have PTs?In post 283, Masquerader Yellow wrote:In post 270, Masquerader Magenta wrote:Teal's PT content is basically non existent, doubting that read now.Old yellow wasn't replaced by the way, new cyan.
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i liked their entry post about dancing with datisi - i read it was an attempt to disguise their identity by pretending to be someone elseIn post 344, Masquerader Purple wrote:
It would help if you explained your invitee read on teal and addressed new cyan's entrance.In post 340, Masquerader Blue wrote:
push where?In post 314, Masquerader Cyan wrote:Funny because this summary is how I feel about Blue so far.
There’s a lot of declarative statements and a few open ended questions but not seeing a push anywhere. Does this improve?
the only three people viable to be eliminated at that point are people I town-read
i liked 65 - it just rang honest with me - I know self meta is dumb but I don't think it's that hard to make up reads atp and the way they are so nonchalant about things feels like casual townspew and not really performative.
I thought the way they came into thread with no idea whats going on and offering to dance with everyone felt like town panick and strategicly it feels very suboptimal for scum to play that way.
I don't like what they've done since because it feels like they dropped off the face of the earth but so has everyone else.
Cyan's entrance is townie on nature but I happen to know exactly who new Cyan is and this is very much inside his scum-range.- Masquerader Blue
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So then if you find me invitee like, then the scum equity would be in the yellow slot, correct?In post 347, Masquerader Blue wrote:I still think Cyan/Yellow has the highest scum equity of all the pairings and would like to eliminate there.
Why do you say yellow has scum equity? (If I misunderstood your prior post include me)
And cool now you think I am someone. Guess it’s time to switch to the next person in my list to avoid intruders guessing me.- Masquerader Blue
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no I've already explained why I found your predecessor to be scummy
yellow ghosting the thread and not doing anything just increases the scum equity in the pair.
also I've been sitting here with my vote on your pair and noone has joined me so it just makes me feel like your pair is even more likely to have scum in it. - Masquerader Blue
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