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HPE should not be a townread for the reasons Aisa gave imo. Tacking your own thoughts onto someone else’s reasoning is the easiest way in the world to blend in and actively lurk. I want HPE to get its hands dirty in some meaningful way, anything that signals the slot is trying to solve and not just echo others’ thoughts with a few extra words tacked on like sprinkles on a cupcake.- Grib
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HPE is town.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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I don't have a satisfying answer for you, so I understand if you're not taking my opinion as gospel or anything.In post 529, Grib wrote:Actually, I changed my mind. I’ll be V/LA for the weekend. Got a lot of plans, but also I want to obsess over the Dead by Daylight event.
Will probably do my reread Sunday or Monday.
TSQ, if you could at least help me understand the HPE townread? Or point to where you talked about it, if you did.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Why not ask us about those slots specifically then?In post 516, Frogsterking wrote: I'm trying to see whether we have any collective insight into the slots which are harder to read. I call it "Town reading by proxy."I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald- Frogsterking
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I consider everyone I didn't name more difficult to readIn post 532, Elements wrote:
Why not ask us about those slots specifically then?In post 516, Frogsterking wrote: I'm trying to see whether we have any collective insight into the slots which are harder to read. I call it "Town reading by proxy."Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I assumed you were trying to "gotcha" me. I don't know if you've played with BBT before but BBT made a bunch of those tells the last two games I played with him and he was Town. The only thing I've noticed different this game is that the questions he asked me seemed more pointed and less superficial than in the mini Normal we played together.In post 520, Thestatusquo wrote:Oh you just did.
I'm not saying you're scum with BBT I'm trying to get you to vote bbt.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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It's funny that you read my reach out as a gotcha but I guess thats what I guess for reaction testing so damn much.My memes are no longer relevant to the youths
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Not particularly, just have generally not really liked the way he's gone about things. Especially recentlyIn post 497, Bellaphant wrote:I thought fire was null, then scum, then this page maybe town. Fun times.
@hpe, talk to me about the frog vote? Is there an element of omgus?AFTERthis one voted, actually.
In post 500, Frogsterking wrote:Herpa derp *towns about*
These are, from what this one has seen of Frog, out of character posts. Like REALLY out of character. The first would be shrug if it was a prodge but he posted more not long after. The second is probably the least because he's certainly be on Shea's case before but it's still a tiny bit weird he'd just say something with the equivalent of "eh, yeah, whatever, vote". And the third is just. What does one make of those 2 incomplete bullet points? Off vibes in general but this one isn't exactly researching his meta or recalling it's past experiences (none) with Frogster, so it can't really say if these are "out of character" or not.In post 510, Frogsterking wrote:
This is projection because:In post 413, Thestatusquo wrote:
I think disagreeing with your methods does not equal putting you down. But I also don't think this is a productive use of either of our time, this argument. I do not buy your methods and I don't think there's anything you can say or do that will make me given my experience reading a bunch of your games.In post 411, Frogsterking wrote:I would be more open to listening to your idea about the Weak Argument Method even though it's clearly not supported by any research if you weren't so quick to put me down at every opportunity.
The only thing that's annoying here is you trying to hold me hostage by saying you wont even consider my arguments unless I agree with your scum hunting methods. Which I'm just straight up not going to do because I've seen no evidence they catch scum anywhere.
1) There is no evidence anywhere that your methods catch scum.
2) I think disagreeing with your methods doesn't equal trying to hold you hostage.
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Hey, we aren't all good at rhetoric and analysis! Though this one supposes that's a...In post 525, Grib wrote:HPE should not be a townread for the reasons Aisa gave imo. Tacking your own thoughts onto someone else’s reasoning is the easiest way in the world to blend in and actively lurk. I want HPE to get its hands dirty in some meaningful way, anything that signals the slot is trying to solve and not just echo others’ thoughts with a few extra words tacked on like sprinkles on a cupcake.
...Meta defense. But, hey, it'll certainly try and post things that are less of nothing burgers for you. Perhaps like the above points on Frogster? We'll see.In post 526, Grib wrote:I think the only way I’ll accept a meta defense (in general) is if someone pushes for it very hard, or if a lot of other people agree with it.
For the record.
Either way, yeah, BBT is also high on it's "unsure about how town they're acting" list, but it isn't feeling a vote towards them as much as it is Frogster, especially now.not a person, just a doll~
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What do you even envision frogster scum to look like tbh cause i don't townread him, i think i made that clear but im struggling with what scum frogster looks like.In post 524, Thestatusquo wrote:
This post doesnt really fit into my idea of what town frogster looks like.In post 500, Frogsterking wrote:Herpa derp *towns about*
Cause theres points here where i go why does frogster scum do X. Seems antithetical to trying to convince people he town. Yet he wants townreads.
Ive been going back and forth lately on thisShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Firebringer
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Solway pointing out the thing ive been thinking for awhile. Would give town points for that but i don't give them out like hotcakes.In post 517, Solway Firth wrote:If anything I would say that’s scum indicative for HPE. You’re saying that HPE is repeating thoughts by others but framing them in a helpful way. I think that rather points to HPE being scum and uncomfortable with making its own points.
I don't get the HPE townreads.
I should get some more townreads. Who do i even have at this point just BBT and Grib?Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Firebringer
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ill throw Elements and Solway townreads too. Why notShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Firebringer
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why the hell is there even a wagon on elements.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Firebringer
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aisa lets have a power session next time ur on. Since no one wants to engage me on my points on you, might as well sort it out and fight. Lets clog up this thread so no one can ignore my gr8 pointsShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Frogsterking
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Did it hurt?In post 537, Firebringer wrote:Ive been going back and forth lately on thisBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Sounds good.In post 518, Solway Firth wrote:
I can in around 7 hours.In post 503, Frogsterking wrote:
Thanks for the shittiest Townsend of all time. Can you post a reads list with explanations please?In post 453, Solway Firth wrote:
Let me put it this way. Frog doesn’t play illogically, he rather works behind-the scenes and isn’t always forthcoming with his thoughts. He also says things he may not fully believe and manipulates others to advance the town agenda. This often leads to him being scumread for tone and being manipulative. Frogster struggles to replicate this as scum. I do not have any personal experience with Frogster but I have skimmed through several of Frogster’s games and in those games seen people describe his meta.In post 234, Grib wrote:Sooo… I made a case for Frog being scum. As of right now none of the concerns I have have been addressed. The only “defense” I’ve seen is that Frog doesn’t play logically, which isn’t helpful at all.
That being said, he claims that he’s good at sussing scum out on Day 1, so I’m happy to let him scumhunt and reevaluate my own read based on how he does his thing.
Other than that, I really don’t have much to say. Last night more than half the player list had less posts than the mod. I think Fire is town and Frog is scum. Everyone else is a big fat question mark.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Because they're quiet and don't cooperate:In post 540, Firebringer wrote:why the hell is there even a wagon on elements.
In post 508, Elements wrote:Why do you want a list of town reads? So you know who to night kill?
Easy limbait target.In post 532, Elements wrote:
Why not ask us about those slots specifically then?In post 516, Frogsterking wrote: I'm trying to see whether we have any collective insight into the slots which are harder to read. I call it "Town reading by proxy."Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Frogsterking
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Try mine:In post 538, Firebringer wrote:
Solway pointing out the thing ive been thinking for awhile. Would give town points for that but i don't give them out like hotcakes.In post 517, Solway Firth wrote:If anything I would say that’s scum indicative for HPE. You’re saying that HPE is repeating thoughts by others but framing them in a helpful way. I think that rather points to HPE being scum and uncomfortable with making its own points.
I don't get the HPE townreads.
I should get some more townreads. Who do i even have at this point just BBT and Grib?
I now have Fire and Enchant's list.In post 507, Frogsterking wrote:@Bella
@Gribs
@Fire
@Elements
@Enchant
Can you confirm there's an up to date list on who all you Town read in your ISO, and if there isn't can you post one?
Fire's Townreads:
BBT
Grib
Solway
Elements
Enchant's Townreads:
I'm still looking to see a list from Bella, Elements and Gribs.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.- Aisa
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Why do you think Enchant is Town, Frogster?
You're such an agent of chaos xxIn post 539, Firebringer wrote:ill throw Elements and Solway townreads too. Why not
lol u wishIn post 541, Firebringer wrote:aisa lets have a power session next time ur on. Since no one wants to engage me on my points on you, might as well sort it out and fight. Lets clog up this thread so no one can ignore my gr8 points- Elements
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I'm shamelessly and fearlessly abusing metaIn post 546, Aisa wrote:Why do you think Enchant is Town, Frogster?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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DopeIn post 547, Elements wrote:My most recent read list is as up to date as I care to be at the momentBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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