Datisi's Café [game over!]

[fireisredsir]

i was blocked n3 and uncrowned acted last night

[furtiveglance]

uncrowned acted last night

TEA

[jjh927]

Well, that gives us a good indication of who should claim next

[fireisredsir]

the thing with pengu is like, his claim checks out with everything he's said all game, and he already knew my claim so it doesn't make sense for him to fake claim something that seems kinda in conflict with my role

[jjh927]

It's worth remembering that at this point, people probably need a particularly good reason to act at night

[fireisredsir]

i wonder if datisi like intentionally made role costs be slightly not equivalent to their actual usefulness in order to confuse people/prevent outguessing the mod kind of stuff

like 15% for a tracker shot vs 150% for a cop shot? 25% for mine, and 70% for a TA?

maybe like part of the game is figuring out if your ability cost is worth using

i was assuming (and i think most people were) that the cost would like balance out to make all prs roughly equal in usefulness/cost, but in a normal game that's not how it works, some roles are stronger than others, so i don't think that assumption necessarily has to be true

[PenguinPower]

i wonder if datisi like intentionally made role costs be slightly not equivalent to their actual usefulness in order to confuse people/prevent outguessing the mod kind of stuff

like 15% for a tracker shot vs 150% for a cop shot? 25% for mine, and 70% for a TA?

maybe like part of the game is figuring out if your ability cost is worth using

i was assuming (and i think most people were) that the cost would like balance out to make all prs roughly equal in usefulness/cost, but in a normal game that's not how it works, some roles are stronger than others, so i don't think that assumption necessarily has to be true

You’re probably right.

[PenguinPower]

Fire can be town I guess.

[Klick]

Also sounds plausible to me fwiw

[fireisredsir]

if that is the case then oops i probably failed the mechanics test LMAO

my role probably was not worth using all 4 nights, my bad

[PenguinPower]

you can probably assume that town will make some collective effort to keep average productivity in the 75-85% range.

I don't think this is a safe assumption!

would love to be wrong though

like it's grating on me now - base psychology is going to have town using their power because people at heart are not logical.

[fireisredsir]

i was trying to be logical but apparently not

[fireisredsir]

[fireisredsir]

i have some Thoughts on uncrowned btw which i am really itching to share but i think it's better to wait for the claim

[Andresvmb]

You all are acting like idiots.

Fine. Massclaim.

I’m a forum mafia player (tracker) base 15% cost + 10% for each subsequent shot. I’ve been banking productivity and used my first short last night in Andre (didn’t go anywhere) since if we’re in 17:4, it’s basically a cop shot. This is why I’ve been skeptical of fire’s productivity claim since the original claim as I can get three full tracks out for less than three of his shots.

Piss off.

It wouldn’t necessarily clear me, but you’ve known that I didn’t act N1 (which means I’m either harnessing productivity points as Town, VT, or Scum with no power), and you still voted me yesterday? For the sake of a wagon? What nonsense is this?

[Andresvmb]

Like ugh that’s kind of annoying.

[fireisredsir]

he used his shot last night, not n1

[Andresvmb]

I don’t want to say entirely right now. But the hammer on mala was sus.

Yeah, suspicious. I saved furtive so I could hammer my Partner. This is honestly silly.

[Andresvmb]

So then I’m clear. That’s even worse. If I didn’t go anywhere, then I didn’t kill anyone. Which I know I didn’t. But even less reason to be saying that I’m suspicious. Unless I’m what, Ninja? And really?

[fireisredsir]

i don't think he's saying you're suspicious now, he was explaining why he chose to track you

[Andresvmb]

Well now we know I just hammered correctly and my perspective is Town. Unless I’m a Multitasking Ninja Roleblocker, which I suspect no one believes.

[Andresvmb]

Since Penguin is clearing me I’ll Unvote.

UNVOTE:

[Andresvmb]

Also, the last Scum is always between {fire, Penguin} then. They’re claiming what is essentially the same role. But then I’m even more confused about that vote yesterday.

[Andresvmb]

Like I doubt Town has two Trackers? Is that what we’re saying?

[Andresvmb]

To be fair, Datisi did troll us with that One-Shot Cop being Town.