hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

[marcistar]

can we do titus vs mathblade i think theres scum in there and its prob titus but i wanna laugh

[marcistar]

Why do you suggest them over BGC?

i think chungus seems townie based on vibes

[MathBlade]

can we do titus vs mathblade i think theres scum in there and its prob titus but i wanna laugh

If that’s the way it happens it does and I am good with it but I wanna sort BGC first.

Can you like explain that at all?

[marcistar]

i dont wanna give actual reads

[MathBlade]

i dont wanna give actual reads

I know you don’t but it would be super helpful…

Don’t make me find a kitty gif after work. *begging eyes*

[marcistar]

if i give u a read on something no promises if itll be related or not

canu send a cat either way

[Titus]

Can we agree on Cape/Frog/Maria/STD/MathBlade as a towncore or ...actually maybe just Frog and me. No one else

I can go Frog and you.

[Titus]

Cape can be scum...

[marcistar]

cant believe writing a read is so hard and long and tiring and time consuming

the pain and suffering im in...

Spoiler:

i think i forgot how to read <3 so dont judge whenever i finish it

[marcistar]

i dont like the post

[marcistar]

i think alot of malcolms posts are just... noncommittal to much scumreads..? one he had consistently was maria, but i dont give that alot of stock because it started around the time maria was the person most people wanted dead, so its simple and easy and something scum would want to make. : )

Spoiler: i think the consistent read -> lack of progression / tunneled state = scummy, no matter marias alignment. its an easy vote on a lazy slot.

Whether for the reasons presented or not so far I think Maria looks quite scummy here. There's a cagey defensiveness to some of their posts after being accused which vibes with me as scum trying to clear their name but not wanting to look overly desperate but panicky while doing so.

Also mariar is one of the best players of this game so the fact we have scumreads that align is a sign i think she is town between frog/maria

One of Maria/BCG seems likely, probably not paired. A world where BCG relies on town Maria being killed to them attempt to gain town-cred here seems possible.

Legit I can't find it, why the hell are there a bunch of naked votes on him all of a sudden.

Presuming my low activity and not having done much. Kinda get why I'd attract some votes for what's been lazy play up until now but if I do get eliminated I suppose it'll be informative to find out where the scummy votes are.

Maria's vote looked scummy - know I scumread them already but the fact they's voted me before and then came back on suggests desperation to just see anyone other than their own slot eliminated.

My stance on both players was outlined pretty clearly at the time, I found Maria's posts and responses to suspicion scummy, and found STD's responses to suspicion unhelpful and weirdly confrontational but unlikely to come from scum trying to win over the town.

i like how mariar is just like "meh i'll just sneak one on without any justification" and no one cares

Yep I did not like Maria's vote on STD either,

Maria hasn't really done anything so far except place a naked vote on me and direct a couple of passively jokey comments to Pooky. The slot isn't one I'm confident of being town at all right now still.

i think if he was truely this confident, being like this in this sorta game is not all that helpful..? i feel like being confident in this game you could easily grasp control of the gamestate and force through what you want, but malcolms just like sidely susing her while he lets other people argue louder and drown him out. avoiding spotlight : )

while when he does get another "scumread"

...

I'm not liking these posts from Furtive at all. I feel like town Furtive (and I think I've only ever played with town Furtive) is open-minded but also quite decisive - when they believe in a read, which they appeared to do with me, they will commit to it and try to push it to get some pressure. As soon as Frogster backs off Furtive does so too and immediately begins to sort of bargain with other players wanting to vote from them...as a style of play this just feels a bit off from what I'm used to with them in games.

the follow [1324] reads most like trying to avoid conflict on his end while defending the stance. (the "fair enough" is what reads as "avoiding conflict")

Spoiler: the whole thing here where hes like "i dont like x buuuuut theyre prob town anyways" is very annoying, buddyie, trying to "avoid conflict", etc.

...

This is a weirdly defensive post from Fennec but I think it's ultimately quite townie and probably just tonal - if you're scum in this situation you probably don't want to draw so much attention to potential associatives like this. Certainly doubt both players are paired scum.

and found STD's responses to suspicion unhelpful and weirdly confrontational but unlikely to come from scum trying to win over the town.

Not sure I'm seeing STD scum to be honest. They'd not contributed a lot but it can happen as town, especially in large games if things get busy. Their early posts were sparse but I'd argue there's genuine reads/content there. Their response to you felt a bit over the top but quite genuine as well - do you not think inactive scum would at least want to make an attempt to get you onside?

I found it slightly surprising you went for that vote actually when catching up (albeit I skimmed some pages) because it felt a bit out of nowhere as a confident read given STD's relative inactivity. I don't think it's coming from you as scum though, just an area of disagreement.

Anyway, to be honest, I kinda lost the drive and willingness for gamesolving in this game. Like a baloon that has been deflating. If this new wagon on me builds up I’ll do a final readslist and then you can eliminate me, because I don’t think I’m going to do well in this particular game.

Or maybe I’m just scum who pretends to be disinterested? Up to you to decide.

Maybe being influenced by players I had TR'd scumreading this slot but I don't like this post at all. It feels sort of self-pitying play-wise in a way that's meant to make you feel bad for suspecting someone who claims they're just not feeling the game as town. It's pretty non-confrontational in a way you can see coming from scum who wants to seem reasonable and cooperative with everyone. Why's Greeting acting as if they're on the verge of elimination at what feels like essentially the start of a wagon here?

this and its timing is incredibly weird imo?

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Spoiler: i dont think this is at all what i wanted to say or how i wanted to word things idk what im thinking but zzz im tired so posty post and memey meme troll

[marcistar]

i will 900% regret posting that i promise u all <3

[MathBlade]

Here you go Marci

Kinda how I feel atm

Just ordered dinner and catching up.

Thank you for the wall post and will read in a moment

[MathBlade]

Elaborating on thoughts on MathBlade since I suppose that was vague

Their solving so far has felt very direct and to the point, there isn't much in the way of "okay guys im backreading everything" or whatever, just kinda is just like

Oh well you post a lot, tell me stuff

Or something like, oh you are another high poster, you say we should get this slot, so lets do this, idk why ur not getting this. Kitty wanted it when they died.

Like I guess that's the TLDR of his treatment of me and Frog's slots

There is an absence of really wanting to solve immediately, to rush things presumably for info without really developing reads or what have you's at least not ones that are said out loud.

I think it is an atypical playstyle to I would say most players.

i could see it as scummy, I could see it as towny, hence my meta comment.

Also MathBlade, do check 871 and 734 from schadd when it comes to your concerns about BCG wagon.

While you could argue that the vote wasn't really "run up" no votes actually were day 1. They were kinda split up until the last second where Alisae died (Greeting)

It was difficult to develop reads when I hadn’t had a chance to read the thread, but I like to when I replace in
Get all immutable facts straight first. These are things that are true regardless of anyone’s alignment.
Get look at all VCAs to help build a narrative of the game and see if town is generally vibing with history or discordant << where I am now
Then read the thread knowing things like claims or actions/special events etc

Then I have my initial impression and my first read through is based on logic and facts rather than reading first.

I find when I ask questions first and make people examine the gamestate as a whole it has lead me to better games as I have been working on improving my town game.

[MathBlade]

I am going to move onto phase three of my replace in here when dinner arrives but I think your kitty deserves all the laser point circles it wants. No regrets Marci.

[MathBlade]

Oh and I am okay with a Malcolm elim too.

Priority wise I am like
BGC
Malcolm/Frog
Titus

That’s priority order of who I would elim atm

[Titus]

Interesting why Malcolm?

[MathBlade]

Interesting why Malcolm?

I liked Marci’s case and Malcolm tends to be more wishy washy as scum. Not airtight like a tell but enough to be in my PoE until I can read.

[MathBlade]

Elaborating on thoughts on MathBlade since I suppose that was vague

Their solving so far has felt very direct and to the point, there isn't much in the way of "okay guys im backreading everything" or whatever, just kinda is just like

Oh well you post a lot, tell me stuff

Or something like, oh you are another high poster, you say we should get this slot, so lets do this, idk why ur not getting this. Kitty wanted it when they died.

Like I guess that's the TLDR of his treatment of me and Frog's slots

There is an absence of really wanting to solve immediately, to rush things presumably for info without really developing reads or what have you's at least not ones that are said out loud.

I think it is an atypical playstyle to I would say most players.

i could see it as scummy, I could see it as towny, hence my meta comment.

Also MathBlade, do check 871 and 734 from schadd when it comes to your concerns about BCG wagon.

While you could argue that the vote wasn't really "run up" no votes actually were day 1. They were kinda split up until the last second where Alisae died (Greeting)

It was difficult to develop reads when I hadn’t had a chance to read the thread, but I like to when I replace in
Get all immutable facts straight first. These are things that are true regardless of anyone’s alignment.
Get look at all VCAs to help build a narrative of the game and see if town is generally vibing with history or discordant << where I am now
Then read the thread knowing things like claims or actions/special events etc

Then I have my initial impression and my first read through is based on logic and facts rather than reading first.

I find when I ask questions first and make people examine the gamestate as a whole it has lead me to better games as I have been working on improving my town game.

Realized I forgot to answer about the two hyperlinked posts.

No, as the duo was together on BGC after those hyperlinked posts

[Titus]

Interesting why Malcolm?

I liked Marci’s case and Malcolm tends to be more wishy washy as scum. Not airtight like a tell but enough to be in my PoE until I can read.

I'd love there. He is boring.

[MathBlade]

Interesting why Malcolm?

I liked Marci’s case and Malcolm tends to be more wishy washy as scum. Not airtight like a tell but enough to be in my PoE until I can read.

I'd love there. He is boring.

Boring = NAI

Do you have any one you SR or TR? With an actual alignment based reason?

[MathBlade]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I think Nero/Enchant is town. I like this Nero post.

[Save The Dragons]

I think I'd be okay with a Titus wagon

[MathBlade]

idk man, I think scum do "will explain later" alot. Maybe it's just them mimicking townplay but its not something that scum never does. We can jusge Gamma once he comes back with his reasoning but I'm not a fan of yours.

I usually find

early = town
later = scum

Is there a reason you’re making an exception for me then, assuming I’ve read this right?

I'm going to go ahead and Town read Gamma with

very low

certainty for asking a question which seems unlikely to be scum motivated.

PEdit

I'm going to go ahead and flip my read on Cape

VOTE: Cape

?? Not getting this read.

Cape and Fennec seem town.

[Titus]

I think I'd be okay with a Titus wagon

*brow*