hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

[MariaR]

I mean let’s look at the “case”

On the scum side we have “bad” play/“voting”

On the good side we have
— Collaborating with town
— Confirmed inno
— Precrumbed role
— Scum attempting to eliminate a TPR before confirming other player’s alignment,

So why the hell is the Pooky wagon even a thing?

1) You mean what wolves want to do to appear innocent?
2) There is no confirmed ino
3) precrumbed roles are NAI with a scum lean because scum like to be consistent.

[MariaR]

Ah, yes I must be a wolf for having a difference in opinion on how to play the day phase. You've got me.

[MathBlade]

There is literally nothing to defend against.

He was a lurking invest.

As demonstrated in the linked list game he was slow to play.

Here he is slow to play.

He then reacted when he was sussed with a damn good explanation,

Then if every invest did that, we don’t elim in invests.
We elim in VTs and then sort out the invests when we can

There’s just nothing scummy about Pooky.

[MariaR]

Nothing you are saying is even factually correct at this point but I'll drop it given this conversation is a waste of my time.

[MathBlade]

Ah, yes I must be a wolf for having a difference in opinion on how to play the day phase. You've got me.

Pretty much you’re the only person in a PoE someone could viably elim

Can’t have Frogger who’s obvious scum by play
Can’t have Titus she’s an invest.
Can’t have BCG as he’s checking Pooky
Can’t have marci or Toog because invest

Can’t have StD or MT because they’re likely town by VCA
Can’t have Enchant because they’re probably town.
Can’t have furtive they’re town
Can’t have NM they’re killing and checking Pooky

There’s literally no one that can be eliminated except those pushing on the wagon so Pooky has to be town.

[MathBlade]

It’s actually pretty simple
Scum want town PRs dead
Scum don’t want confirms
Scum pushing Pooky.

[MathBlade]

I left off Cape90 who is probably town because I got no voyeur on him and with how many PRs Cape is very likely town.

[MariaR]

VCA with no wolf flips- I do not remember you being this impossible to work with but it has been years so that must be it. Your world you're trying to build is based off falsehoods and I'll let everyone else see it for themselves.
pedit: Congrats you figured it out we've won the game woooo

[MariaR]

If anyone else shows up and wants to talk lmk

[MathBlade]

VCA with no wolf flips- I do not remember you being this impossible to work with but it has been years so that must be it. Your world you're trying to build is based off falsehoods and I'll let everyone else see it for themselves.
pedit: Congrats you figured it out we've won the game woooo

I start from facts and work from there

Y’all start from nothing explain nothing make shit up
And expect me to bend over backwards and kiss your butt

[MathBlade]

And yeah you jest but I suspect a good chunk of scum are on this Pooky wagon

I doubt town would be pushing any invest D1

It’s literally suboptimal

[MathBlade]

First day of claims*

[MariaR]

marcistar/MathBlade/Titus/Not_Mafia
Cape90/Big Chungus Gaming/furtiveglance
Enchant/Save The Dragons/MalcolmTucker
Toogeloo/PookyTheMagicalBear/Frogsterking
pedit: Mafia is that black and white you're totally right. Anything else?

[MathBlade]

marcistar/MathBlade/Titus/Not_Mafia
Cape90/Big Chungus Gaming/furtiveglance
Enchant/Save The Dragons/MalcolmTucker
Toogeloo/PookyTheMagicalBear/Frogsterking
pedit: Mafia is that black and white you're totally right. Anything else?

You’re clearly being sarcastic and not listening

Like you are literally just going “great plan” and pushing scum’s agenda

If you’re town there’s literally nothing you care about

Facts you don’t care about and will push Pooky no matter what.

If you weren’t being sarcastic you’d Unvote.

The fact is this wagon is silly and I will quite frankly join any non invest wagon regardless of if I TR them,

That’s how absolutely ridiculous this Pooky wagon is.

[MathBlade]

Like you could cooperate on Frog who we both scumread

But no you’d rather keep up Pooky despite the ample evidence he is town.

[MathBlade]

That should be non PR wagon,

[MathBlade]

Ffs you scumread both Toog and Frog and they’re both on Pooky.

Which means if you’re right on your reads then scum are pushing Pooky

Which means Pooky is town.

[MathBlade]

People keep saying I am building a world off falsehoods

Yet when I explain it it’s at best disagreements.

There’s no falsehoods.

It’s all spin to keep the precious Pooky miselim alive.

[MariaR]

The one not listening is you because the moment I disagreed with one thing you said you voted me and started to plug your ears. You're not getting that you didn't show how Pooky was town you linked a game and then started saying Pooky is not scum on repeat. Sure, I can understand why you don't want a PR wagon because not everyone is going to agree with my theory on how the day should play out, but the fact you're living in a world where "scum want to push a pr nothing more nothing less." you're just not bending or trying to solve you're playing PR sim and pressing start.

This is also the first time you've asked me to unvote or cooperate on anything, I've given my reads so you can answer that instead of having a useless argument yet here we are.

[MariaR]

I don't think you get that your "facts" are not facts they're just opinions and just because some people disagree with them you're throwing a hissy fit and building a new world saying that person has to be scum because they're not listening to you. The person who isn't coopertaing is you. Not once did I say I wouldn't vote Frog and you'd know that.

Like, take a step back from the thread and look how much your ego posting right now.

[MathBlade]

The one not listening is you because the moment I disagreed with one thing you said you voted me and started to plug your ears. You're not getting that you didn't show how Pooky was town you linked a game and then started saying Pooky is not scum on repeat. Sure, I can understand why you don't want a PR wagon because not everyone is going to agree with my theory on how the day should play out, but the fact you're living in a world where "scum want to push a pr nothing more nothing less." you're just not bending or trying to solve you're playing PR sim and pressing start.

This is also the first time you've asked me to unvote or cooperate on anything, I've given my reads so you can answer that instead of having a useless argument yet here we are.

Your reads don’t match your play.

You scumread Toog/Pooky/Frog.

Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?

I am not “ego” posting

I am desperately trying to stop the game from making a suicidal mechanical error.

[MariaR]

Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?

Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?

[MathBlade]

Do you think Toog and Frog are both bussing Pooky?

Maybe, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. I find it semi unlikely Too/Pooky are together given how similar their play is but meh.
Pooky is a follower claim, if they went over it wouldn't be the end of the world.
What part of my reads don't match my play?

Assume I am “ego posting” instead of my belief I am trying to stop town mistakes

Then scum have no reason to bus because the wagon won’t get to 8. They could sheep me wherever I am.

Yet scum have inexplicably chosen to bus here in your world.

You are literally arguing Toog claims invest and says he will die over Frog.

So if Frog is scum why would Toog claim to defend them like that as scum?

Your reads and play look like a conglomeration of common scumreads versus thought out ones.

[MathBlade]

Spoiler:

vote count 2.6 !

PookyTheMagicalBear (5):

MariaR, Frogsterking, Big Chungus Gaming, Toogeloo, Titus

Titus (2):

Save The Dragons, Cape90

Big Chungus Gaming (2):

furtiveglance, PookyTheMagicalBear

furtiveglance (1):

marcistar

Frogsterking (1):

MathBlade

not voting (3):

Not_Mafia, MalcolmTucker, Enchant

with 14 alive, it takes 8 to blow someone up. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-10-23 14:51:54)

modorator notes

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What makes a lot more sense is there is scum in Titus/Frog/you (not all inclusive)

BCG probably isn’t scum for volunteering to check Pooky.

But we can just vig him if he is scum.

This makes me think the wagon is scum motivated.

[MathBlade]

Vig him = Pooky*