hi, i'm large normal 242. you and i are day 6

[Frogsterking]

reviewed by: isis & ausuka

@math

Does this have any indications about the setup spec?

[MathBlade]

reviewed by: isis & ausuka

@math

Does this have any indications about the setup spec?

Yes but no.

Yes in that it tells me not to try to meta setup Schadd and Isis.

They’re both really brilliant and the last few times I’ve tried I have been boondoggled.

I think doing it in micro is okay but macro I need one more scum flip (assuming furtive is scum) or two more without it.

[MariaR]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

Wow look it's the roleblock to counter all the invests

VOTE: Furtive

[MathBlade]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

Wow look it's the roleblock to counter all the invests

VOTE: Furtive

We agree! Yay!

[Titus]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

Wow look it's the roleblock to counter all the invests

VOTE: Furtive

Plothole, I am a limited shot rolecop. Was left out of tldr.

Frog saw your question. Give me 30.

[MathBlade]

What the fuck happened while I was gone

Tldr
Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed rolecop with result Furtive is Joat with RB Alien and tracker
For some reason furtive isn’t already hammered

Wow look it's the roleblock to counter all the invests

VOTE: Furtive

Plothole, I am a limited shot rolecop. Was left out of tldr.

Frog saw your question. Give me 30.

Didn’t leave it out. Found it irrelevant for the wagon today.

Furtive is likely scum

You and Frog could be any sort of which way alignment wise

Furtive’s flip will contribute to reading you both.

[Titus]

How is a direct matching claim irrelevant?

[marcistar]

[MathBlade]

How is a direct matching claim irrelevant?

Because it is? Do we execute multiple people for claiming VT? No.

What matters is the overall setup design.

Maybe town is given traditional scum roles and scum given town ones.

We judge by play as well as role.

Is it likely there’s a scum between you and Frog? Maybe. Maybe even more than usual.

Maybe you’re both scum as a backup or both town.

Until we get an idea of overall we don’t know.

Furtive is likely the scum RB based on him hiding but that’s play + role

I can make arguments you or Frog are scum.

It doesn’t mean you/Frog are and it doesn’t rise to a likelihood more than Furtive

[MathBlade]

Mainly Titus if I have to pick a scum it’s probably you whiteknighting Frog based on play.

I think Furtive is scum here

And you were all “no no can’t push Frog” when I tried earlier

But luckily I don’t have to pick *right now*

[Titus]

We likely will flip Furtive today, and I likely will still feel Frog is town. That doesn't mean that this position is irrelevant.

Frog could very well be scum taking advantage of Furtitive's "joke". It's reasonable doubt. Mafia isn't played to beyond a reasonable doubt standard but hardly irrelevant.

[MathBlade]

We likely will flip Furtive today, and I likely will still feel Frog is town. That doesn't mean that this position is irrelevant.

Frog could very well be scum taking advantage of Furtitive's "joke". It's reasonable doubt. Mafia isn't played to beyond a reasonable doubt standard but hardly irrelevant.

It’s irrelevant for today.

There are finer details and when we repost action list EoD (to avoid the “I didn’t see it” excuse) she’ll see it.

It’s not that it’s not important. It was irrelevant to the TLDR right now.

[Titus]

Assessing the validity of Frogsterking's complaint is the number one issue. We can't just assume something is a guilty because it's easy to do so. If you're giving a tldr, do it right.

[MathBlade]

Assessing the validity of Frogsterking's complaint is the number one issue. We can't just assume something is a guilty because it's easy to do so. If you're giving a tldr, do it right.

It’s a guilty based on already exposed evidence

Furtive claimed VT
Frog claimed JOAT
Furtive confirmed JOAT

Ergo Furtive is guilty.

If he somehow happens to be town he learns not to do that or be better at it.

It’s not a red check but it’s as close as one gets without a cop.

[Titus]

Not_Mafia - Vigilante
Enchant - Vigilante
Frogsterking - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Didn't Claim
Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard (Didn't claim actions)

Spoiler: Acts

N1: ???

Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
furtiveglance - Didn't Claim
PookyTheMagicalBear - Follower

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action

Cape90 - Claims "Not Investigative"
Titus - Didn't Claim
Toogeloo - Claims "Investigative"
MathBlade - Vouyer

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Cape90. Result: No one.

marcistar - Modified Tracker

Spoiler: Acts:

N1: No Action

MariaR - Vanilla Townie

Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Not_Mafia

Did i miss anything?

Put me down as a gated, loyal, voyeuristic, investigative vanilla town.

@MariaR, How would you take this post by furtiveglance?

[Cape90]

VOTE: furtiveglance

Might end up needing to do this anyways, maybe for a valuable lesson to either myself or the rest of the thread. Hopefully myself

[MariaR]

@MariaR, How would you take this post by furtiveglance?

Eh. joke post probably I still think the role itself is near damning.

[Titus]

I still have my conflicts but I don't see how I can resolve them.

VOTE: furtiveglance

[Titus]

I almost forgot. Frog's question.

[Titus]

I'd turbo lim MalcolmTucker tomorrow based off the readwalls and applying the rule of three.

[MathBlade]

I'd turbo lim MalcolmTucker tomorrow based off the readwalls and applying the rule of three.

What’s the exact role you got for Malcolm Titus?

[MathBlade]

Assuming it’s vanilla I’d rather not elim Malcolm as with the amount of power scum probably have 0-1 goons at most.

I’d like to see how Pooky settles out.

And I think Ro3 would have to be from before Furtive knew he was outed

I’d have to ISO him which I can do overnight

[MathBlade]

Of course all of this assumes furtive scum which is likely.

If I had to speed elim anyone it would be
Furtive scum -> speed elim Titus
Furtive town & Pooky town -> speed elim Frogger maaaaaybe. And if Frogger scum elim Toog
Furtive town and Pooky scum -> speed elim no one

Like if Frogger is scum I am pretty convinced Toog traitor.

But meh my reads are all way too conditional and I probably die
I guess speedlim is more “pressure heavily”

[Frogsterking]

Can you talk about your Malcolm read a little bit Titus? I think he draws a lot of suspicion in his Town play and I feel like he is going to flip Town based off what he's written. I've misread him once before so I'm open to being wrong, but he is kinda different than that game I misread him.

[Frogsterking]

Math I still don't know why you think Pooky is Town. His ISO is extremely scummy.