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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:20 pm

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In post 98, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 77, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:
"Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post."

I actually felt like it wasn't worded for a wishy washy read. I felt it was worded strongly for a wishy washy read and then you went downgrading it as it went questioned. It just doesn't fit with tone is all I'm saying but I'm just gonna keep note of that for now
Why do you think that the way I phrase my posts is alignment indicative?

~Greeting
I just said it bugged me cause it has tone-meaning inconsistency. It's not "alignment indicative" on its own at least.

what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?
I don't believe you'd expect me to declare you town with 100% certainty so early. But I do think that post is indicative of you being town. I don't think that if you were scum, you'd make such a post just to maintain a facade.

As for my other reads, I will speak of them later. Maybe after I've consulted with Aisa first.

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I actually didn't expect anyone to declare me town or a town read for that post in any way cause its clarealy and so obviously not alignment indicative - at least not on its own -. It can be from a town perception analyzing the game and mod post and talking out loud about something I bet more people thought about as well but probably kept silent about it or from a scum informed perspective looking like they are dropping value in the game while adding almost nothing to the table

But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not

Then there is Radja still fixating on the read itself there without declaring a read for himself. He keeps suggesting it was faked without taking that stance I mean.

let me rephrase that, I think Radja could have announce his own read on the thing he is pushing Bunnyonce for at this point or at least to say its NAI instead of sidelining on the read itself, dropping lines about how its faked without him declaring that he thinks that what it was.

Scarecrow or mastina having different takes on it doesn't concern me at all. Its the attidues behind side taking that's not felling right in this interaction
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:02 pm

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In post 100, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 98, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 77, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:
"Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post."

I actually felt like it wasn't worded for a wishy washy read. I felt it was worded strongly for a wishy washy read and then you went downgrading it as it went questioned. It just doesn't fit with tone is all I'm saying but I'm just gonna keep note of that for now
Why do you think that the way I phrase my posts is alignment indicative?

~Greeting
I just said it bugged me cause it has tone-meaning inconsistency. It's not "alignment indicative" on its own at least.

what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?
I don't believe you'd expect me to declare you town with 100% certainty so early. But I do think that post is indicative of you being town. I don't think that if you were scum, you'd make such a post just to maintain a facade.

As for my other reads, I will speak of them later. Maybe after I've consulted with Aisa first.

~Greeting
I actually didn't expect anyone to declare me town or a town read for that post in any way cause its clarealy and so obviously not alignment indicative - at least not on its own -. It can be from a town perception analyzing the game and mod post and talking out loud about something I bet more people thought about as well but probably kept silent about it or from a scum informed perspective looking like they are dropping value in the game while adding almost nothing to the table

But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not

Then there is Radja still fixating on the read itself there without declaring a read for himself. He keeps suggesting it was faked without taking that stance I mean.

let me rephrase that, I think Radja could have announce his own read on the thing he is pushing Bunnyonce for at this point or at least to say its NAI instead of sidelining on the read itself, dropping lines about how its faked without him declaring that he thinks that what it was.

Scarecrow or mastina having different takes on it doesn't concern me at all. Its the attidues behind side taking that's not felling right in this interaction
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:30 pm

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In post 93, Frozen Angel wrote:Can you explain how the two of these are in your almost lock-town slots when their game hasn't even start yet?
Because I said so. :P

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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:31 pm

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In post 95, MMR wrote:mastina, can you explain your read on Child of Fairies?
That's literally my null tier. I don't have a read there.
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:50 pm

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In post 103, mastina wrote:
In post 95, MMR wrote:mastina, can you explain your read on Child of Fairies?
That's literally my null tier. I don't have a read there.
I see.
I thought that you had them as a weak townlean because the above was labelled Townleans.
It makes more sense now.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:02 am

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In post 102, mastina wrote:
In post 93, Frozen Angel wrote:Can you explain how the two of these are in your almost lock-town slots when their game hasn't even start yet?
Because I said so. :P

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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:35 am

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Mastina, where's the Korina read coming from? They've done literally nothing and are getting replaced, so I don't see how they can be anything but null
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:49 am

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I stated this in hydra chat to Tictac but I mentioned how I felt Radical Rats vote could be opportunistic.

But then again I don’t like Mastina just hopping onto our wagon.


@Mastina in your own words, why do you find us wolfy?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:52 am

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In post 80, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.
Also again to counter your argument to your case on us.

TicTac was saying something in hydra chat why they found the person they were voting (Bingle) to be a wolf/wolfy.
I could be mistaken, but I’m pretty sure that was TicTac’s only vote so why do you think this? Why is the engagement wrong? Idk man to me it feels like a soft defence on Bingle, do you townread Bingle?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:53 am

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“Dingle” not Bingle.
Lol I messed up the name.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:55 am

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In post 55, professotic wrote:
In post 51, furtiveglance wrote:VOTE: Professotic

Entrance posts wolfy
dare u to vote dongle
I think my partner TicTac here probably did this to see how people treat the Dingle slot.
Cause like obviously if Dingle is a wolf their wolf partner will be trying to avoid them being executed and even potentially try to redirect attention elsewhere
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:55 am

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Not gonna lie I also do stuff similar to this.

It is actually a +EV play.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:56 am

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You know what isn’t AI? Half the stuff people think is.

Quality Content isn’t AI btw.
But I ain’t gonna rant and clog up thread discussing my standards for what AI is and isn’t.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:58 am

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Radical Rat/Dingle/Mastina
Contains at minimum 1 wolf.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:59 am

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I said this last night to TicTac I’ll say it here now.
I actually find Furtive Gut Town.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:16 am

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I rolled dice for person who i will blindly sheep whole d1

Now Bunnyonce is doublevoter

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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:16 am

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VOTE: Child of fairies
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:53 am

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I'm about to clear myself as town

VOTE: Dingle Dangle Scarecrow
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:29 am

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In post 57, Save The Dragons wrote:I don't plan on learning the mechanics are they difficult


Don't worry. I plan on being an insufferable teacher and making all my reads mech dependent. /s
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:30 am

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In post 76, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 53, Radja wrote:
In post 52, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 48, Radja wrote:
In post 46, Bunnyonce wrote:Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post.

~Greeting
Why?
Speaking for myself: the mechanical speculation and her enthusiasm seemed towny.

I guess you could argue that's a level 0 take, but whatever.

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I mean, I'd probably argue that it's very easily faked.
Why would
Frozen Angel
want to fake this post and not post something else if she's scum?

~Greeting
Objection: Speculative!

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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:33 am

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In post 92, mastina wrote:
In post 80, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.
I mean, you right!

VOTE: professotic

{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just a
bit
more from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}

TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}


{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}


{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}

SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for
now
, this'll do.)
VOTE: Bunny

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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:55 am

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In post 93, Frozen Angel wrote:I actually found that alarming in different ways
I find this alarming
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 4:59 am

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Also no one told me if the mechs are difficult lol

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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:44 am

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In post 100, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 98, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 77, Bunnyonce wrote:
In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:
"Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post."

I actually felt like it wasn't worded for a wishy washy read. I felt it was worded strongly for a wishy washy read and then you went downgrading it as it went questioned. It just doesn't fit with tone is all I'm saying but I'm just gonna keep note of that for now
Why do you think that the way I phrase my posts is alignment indicative?

~Greeting
I just said it bugged me cause it has tone-meaning inconsistency. It's not "alignment indicative" on its own at least.

what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?
I don't believe you'd expect me to declare you town with 100% certainty so early. But I do think that post is indicative of you being town. I don't think that if you were scum, you'd make such a post just to maintain a facade.

As for my other reads, I will speak of them later. Maybe after I've consulted with Aisa first.

~Greeting
I actually didn't expect anyone to declare me town or a town read for that post in any way cause its clarealy and so obviously not alignment indicative - at least not on its own -. It can be from a town perception analyzing the game and mod post and talking out loud about something I bet more people thought about as well but probably kept silent about it or from a scum informed perspective looking like they are dropping value in the game while adding almost nothing to the table

But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not

Then there is Radja still fixating on the read itself there without declaring a read for himself. He keeps suggesting it was faked without taking that stance I mean.

let me rephrase that, I think Radja could have announce his own read on the thing he is pushing Bunnyonce for at this point or at least to say its NAI instead of sidelining on the read itself, dropping lines about how its faked without him declaring that he thinks that what it was.

Scarecrow or mastina having different takes on it doesn't concern me at all. Its the attidues behind side taking that's not felling right in this interaction
I thought it was pretty obvious it was NAI for me
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:57 am

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There is this minigame I like to play from time to time called "guess the head". I'm particularly intrigued by who is Mumps, who is Measles, and who is Rubella.
In post 100, Frozen Angel wrote:[...]
But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not
I'm pretty sure it was just slightly unfortunate wording on Greeting's part. He could have said "FA is towny" instead of "FA is town" in the initial post and then we wouldn't be here having this discussion.

I realise this is an easy thing to say to cover up an apparent inconsistency after the posts have been made. I don't think there's anything more I can do to change minds at this point, so I'm gonna move on.
In post 87, Frozen Angel wrote:[...]
what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?
Just from browsing the thread right now, and without having discussed with Greeting, I feel like the Past Present Future slot might be Town. Call it vibes idk, just feel like their posting is on par for the course so far.

I'm gonna take it slow I think, I don't really know how to handle a good chunk of the playerlist and I don't really know what to do with the multiball aspect of the game.

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