Warrior Cats Mafia [Day Three]

[Mistyx]

i want to suggest that scum would have fakeclaims & fake PMs but ive seen them not have any a frightening percentage of the time recently

almost certain they would because of how the neighborhoods are set up

[Something_Smart]

Yes.

What makes you think everyone besides you is in a clan?

[Val89]

almost certain they would because of how the neighborhoods are set up

Care to explain further?

[Titus]

Yes.

What makes you think everyone besides you is in a clan?

I don't know it, but the numbers are smooth. 20 cats in 4 clans. One left over. my PM mentions no other stray either.

[SCRRRDBEAR]

DANNFLOR - SUS
MISTYX - SUS
BELL - NULL
CHARLOUX - TRUSTWORTHY
FROZEN ANGEL - TRUSTWORTHY
S_S - NULL (CLOSER TO TRUSTWORTHY)

[Mistyx]

almost certain they would because of how the neighborhoods are set up

Care to explain further?

sure

the neighborhoods are set up in a way that narrows each player's flavor down to a specific group of available characters

scum not being provided fakeclaims while the group of flavors they could claim is already fairly limited is questionable

[SCRRRDBEAR]

CHANGE MISTYX FROM SUS TO TRUSTWORTHY

[Mistyx]

hm that was less conclusive than i thought

possible i'm just projecting my own design philosophy of "always give scum fakeclaims if flavor is in any way mechanically relevant"

would like to think mod follows this as well, and neighborhoods confirm flavors have mechanical relevance

but i don't know site meta since i haven't played here in a year

[Mistyx]

CHANGE MISTYX FROM SUS TO TRUSTWORTHY

was this on the last post or

[Charloux]

He is a troll and i hate him sooo much. I don't think i can take any of his reads seriously.

[SCRRRDBEAR]

CHANGE MISTYX FROM SUS TO TRUSTWORTHY

was this on the last post or

175 AND 180 SEEMED PROACTIVE

[Dannflor]

BEAR why did you vote with me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You know, all of these catvatars are a bit distracting because i can't differentiate the players anymore.

[SCRRRDBEAR]

It was mainly snark and confusion on my end; I did think that it might be a PT slip but figured that scum would be more careful.

I CAN SEE SELF-IDENTIFYING TONE AS SNARK AND CONFUSION BEING LAMIST. I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH MARASHU AND I DO NOT KNOW IF I AM GOING OFF-BASE. FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF MARASHU NORMALLY SOUNDS THIS WAY.

MARASHU - SUS

[SCRRRDBEAR]

BEAR why did you vote with me?

I DID NOT LIKE HIS FONT CHOICE

[PenguinPower]

Are you the new Dr. Worm?

[SCRRRDBEAR]

Are you the new Dr. Worm?

YES AND I AM ALSO SCRRRDBEAR

[SCRRRDBEAR]

You know, all of these catvatars are a bit distracting because i can't differentiate the players anymore.

YES I AM ALSO VISUAL THINKER

[PenguinPower]

But, Dr Worm wasn’t a really doctor. So you’re not really scrrrd.

[Alisae]

BEAR why did you vote with me?

I DID NOT LIKE HIS FONT CHOICE

I talked him into it in wind clan
u mad

[Dannflor]

BEAR why did you vote with me?

I DID NOT LIKE HIS FONT CHOICE

why is your vote there as opposed to a sus read

[SCRRRDBEAR]

first takes

- dann bell misty towny
- charloux FA eh maybe towny
- catboi SS hmm
- datisi marachu scummy

VOTE: datisi

why am i "hmm", and why is marashu scummy?

vibes

i thought the entrance felt light and jokey but since then you seemed kinda stiff and serious and like... quick to jump on things early in a way that i think of as more scummy for you

for marashu just gut something about the entrance felt off. like immediately going to snark as a reaction just doesnt feel right to me? i feel like the natural town response to something like that would be to be more inquisitive, it doesn't really feel sort-y

why am i towny

you feel like you really have your investigator hat on and your magnifying glass out but in a way that is more focused on moving the game forward and prodding things out from people than it is about performance or like putting your own mindset on display for townpoints

specifically it reminds me of turing test d1

And I don't think confirming role + alignment rules out clan confusion; it's usually easy to tell alignment from coloring + lack of partners/obvious scum info, even if you don't fully understand the factions or the wincon.

It may be obvious from the colouring + lack of partners that your role pm is one belonging to the uninformed majority, but if you were in possession of such, you would also have (and I assume it's acceptable to quote directly now it is given publicly) the wincon given to starclan -

"You and all other members of the protectors of StarClan win when all Dark Forest cats have been eliminated."

- which is patently clear on the issue bell expressed confusion about.

That's my hypothesis - that scum!bell was trying to replicate that selfmeta of 'derping about set up early game and asking the most basic questions that are usually also “town slippy”' without access to a critical piece of information - how the wincon was presented to starclan; and thus failing to realise there was zero, none, nada ambiguity there to 'town slip' over. I don't buy the post-sample explanation that starclan!bell thought "dark forest cats" was some larger descriptor for two or more scum clans without also believing that starclan was some larger descriptor for the town clans, and thus windclan, thunderclan, etc to be pure; and that's never going to pass review. It's nonsensical.

I can easily see town!SS realising this situation has only arisen because of the lack of a publicly posted sample PM, and thus suffer some sort of second-hand guilt on behalf of the dark forest for having a member outed so early over what is arguably a mod mistake, but why defend him now?

MY QUESTION TO EVERYONE ELSE: DO YOU READ THESE POSTS AS TRUSTWORTHY, NULL OR SUS? WHY?

[SCRRRDBEAR]

BEAR why did you vote with me?

I DID NOT LIKE HIS FONT CHOICE

why is your vote there as opposed to a sus read

I DID NOT HAVE ANY SUS READS AT THE TIME OF VOTING AND I WILL MOVE MY VOTE WHEN I SEE FIT

[PenguinPower]

Why don’t you see it fit now that you have sus reads would be the next question to that response.

[SCRRRDBEAR]

But, Dr Worm wasn’t a really doctor. So you’re not really scrrrd.

SHARP PENGUIN. DO YOU WANT TO VOTE SOMEONE IN OUR CLAN TODAY?