Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[MMR]

I'm probably overreacting.

Mastina is a slot I'd like to sort later. I think this is just what she does and if it's entirely random she's scum but if it makes some sense she's probably town. I am leaning toward the latter.

I don't think that you are overreacting.
138 definitely reads like shade, to me, coming from FA.
It's completely understandable and NAI to not understand the mech in a closed setup.
VOTE: FA
-Rubella

[T-Bone]

Mastina is probably scum but it's not worth it

[T-Bone]

Radja is probably scum and it is worth it!

VOTE: Radja

[MMR]

who should we elim?

I don't like this post because it is a filler question and reads to me as "Tell me who is scum so I can mindlessly sheep without making a decision for myself".

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

Scum.

VOTE: dingle
legit

How do you have a "legit" vote on Scarecrow based off a single post?

I dare someone to call one of those 2 entrance posts I made wolfy and they can prepare for utter annihilation!

Congratulations, your entrance posts were wolfy. But now that I've checked who is in your slot, I'm much less confident about you being a wolf.

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)

shifty is patent protected btw.

I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.

Who is talia?

This is fascinating though and I want to say it loud what most probably thought about too:

Meg, is there any public information about Dusk/Dawn phases? Are they different?

Both Dusk and Dawn function as normal Mafia game eliminations, as well as Noon and Night function as normal mafia game night phases. They are functionally identical except they are distinct.

So it seems that Noon is the night phase for the Solar cult and the night is the night phase for the Lunar cult. In other words, based on flavor we can guess that the cults are even/off phase mechanically. But guess we'll see when we go

Anyways missed you, my friends. long time no see <3 been a while since I played a game here

VOTE: Bunnyonce

Nice to see you again Frozen Angel.

Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post.

~Greeting

Why?

Speaking for myself: the mechanical speculation and her enthusiasm seemed towny.

I guess you could argue that's a level 0 take, but whatever.

-Aisa

It is a level zero take, but it's acceptable this early in the game.

I am Mafia Goon.

VOTE: Enchant

I think you're legitimately more likely to make this post as a Mafia Goon than as anything else.

i don't buy this dumbtell given discussion of scum being cult themed+ ding awareness of postcount enough to steal pagetop.

No tell existed here...

1

2

3

4

This is an atrocious waste of posts! Speaking of post count, someone remind me. Is there a post limit this game, and if so, what is it?

VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

Maybe, but this is professotic we're talking about.

VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I’ll be honest, Tictac is paying more attention this game then I am.
I haven’t really read much of anything but I noticed he’s talking a bit in our hydra chat about stuff and reads and what not.

This doesn't track with my perceived ratio of your posts versus your partner's posts.

VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I mean, you right!

VOTE: professotic

{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just a

bit

more from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}

TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}


{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}


{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}

SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for

now

, this'll do.)

Hmm, I think I disagree with most of these reads.

Hey mastina

the number of posts so far:

Save the Dragons: 2
Yume: 1

Can you explain how the two of these are in your almost lock-town slots when their game hasn't even start yet? Yume practically posted nothing so far (Who is Talia btw?) and save the dragons made a weird comment about "if the mechanics are difficult" acting like he doesn't know this is a closed setup?

I don't plan on learning the mechanics are they difficult

I actually found that alarming in different ways

mastina has apparently mastered an art for interpreting early game posts. I haven't seen it to be too accurate in practice, but she'll place extreme confidence in it. I don't think it's really alarming not to engage in mechanics. Scum have more incentive to be engaged because scum mistakes tend to be costlier.

Also no one told me if the mechs are difficult lol

VOTE: frozen angel

That's not really a slip of any kind. This is clearly a bastard-esque game with an unusual day cycle. That's enough to imply that the mechanics are more complex than average.

There is this minigame I like to play from time to time called "guess the head". I'm particularly intrigued by who is Mumps, who is Measles, and who is Rubella.

[...]
But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not

I'm pretty sure it was just slightly unfortunate wording on Greeting's part. He could have said "FA is towny" instead of "FA is town" in the initial post and then we wouldn't be here having this discussion.

I realise this is an easy thing to say to cover up an apparent inconsistency after the posts have been made. I don't think there's anything more I can do to change minds at this point, so I'm gonna move on.

[...]
what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?

Just from browsing the thread right now, and without having discussed with Greeting, I feel like the Past Present Future slot might be Town. Call it vibes idk, just feel like their posting is on par for the course so far.

I'm gonna take it slow I think, I don't really know how to handle a good chunk of the playerlist and I don't really know what to do with the multiball aspect of the game.

-Aisa

I'll give you a hint: it should be quite obvious who is who by now. I hope though that you'll keep your guesses to yourself so that it doesn't distract the players who cannot tell us apart.

would really help if some discussions would happen in this game. It's hard to make conversations and do inferences over "Yo" and stuff of that kind

There's already been discussion around your slot, mastina, professotic, and Bunny... What more are you looking for?

can everyone just post at least 1 read they feel more comfortable about based on past 6 pages and at least 2 sentences explaining it?

No because this is busy work.
~Mumps

[Save The Dragons]

That's not really a slip of any kind. This is clearly a bastard-esque game with an unusual day cycle. That's enough to imply that the mechanics are more complex than average.

I don't think anyone mentioned a slip? If it helps that post you quoted has nothing to do with my vote

[Radical Rat]

Mastina is probably scum but it's not worth it

Radja is probably scum and it is worth it!

VOTE: Radja

I haven't actually read most of the thread yet, forgot how daunting Larges can be, BUT this stuck out to me skimming the last page.

What defines "worth it" here? Because it sure sounds like either mastina's your buddy, or you're trying to make us think she is.

Either way,
VOTE: T-Bone

[Past Present Future]

VOTE: Radja

Still a iffy on Bunny but Radja’s posts look to be possibly agenda driven, that and Greeting usually sounds stilted in pretty much every game.

~Nancy

[professotic]

I stated this in hydra chat to Tictac but I mentioned how I felt Radical Rats vote could be opportunistic.

But then again I don’t like Mastina just hopping onto our wagon.

ftr i define opportunism as "trying to do easy scum beneficial things". still don't think attacking us qualifies as easy here.
mastina read on us does strike me as unplausible, since she just saw me as scum twice, but maybe it's displacement? (comments from folks in those games welcome on this)
do agree w std in that mastina is optimally a late sort, and a clear answer is unlikely to exist on day 1 imo.

[furtiveglance]

I have neeglected this game a bit, I'll get to it tomorrow

[professotic]

Objection: Speculative!

not a courtroom.
the space of all possible actions is large tho.

[professotic]

I think its bad that you townread FA for it.
That puts you down on the ladder for me.

I think its very possible you fabricated that read to position yourself close to FA, who usually is a very active player(been a while since I've played, but that's how I remember it)

u treating me/bun as interchangeable does make me think u interacting w the thread instead of sorting individuals.
first time playing w u tho. is this typical of u? (better answered by non-u actually if there is one w familiarity. u can designate someone)

[professotic]

I don't like this post because it is a filler question and reads to me as "Tell me who is scum so I can mindlessly sheep without making a decision for myself".

i mean, that's the dream, no?

more seriously: who want's to yeet whom is the actual thing that matters in dayplay.

[professotic]

But now that I've checked who is in your slot, I'm much less confident about you being a wolf.

i dunno which one u talking about here

[professotic]

How do you have a "legit" vote on Scarecrow based off a single post?

u quoted the case

[professotic]

VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I mean, you right!

VOTE: professotic

{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just a

bit

more from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}

TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}


{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}


{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}

SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for

now

, this'll do.)

VOTE: Bunny

I like Bunny versus Professor as wagons. Korina's not a bad choice either. Bunny's last defense of FA reeked.

~Titus

You say you like our wagons yet you never stated any prior concern towards our slot.
Why’s that? What do you think of our slot?

Your post to me doesn’t feel genuine.

[professotic]

who should we elim?

I don't like this post because it is a filler question and reads to me as "Tell me who is scum so I can mindlessly sheep without making a decision for myself".

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

Scum.

VOTE: dingle
legit

How do you have a "legit" vote on Scarecrow based off a single post?

I dare someone to call one of those 2 entrance posts I made wolfy and they can prepare for utter annihilation!

Congratulations, your entrance posts were wolfy. But now that I've checked who is in your slot, I'm much less confident about you being a wolf.

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)

shifty is patent protected btw.

I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.

Who is talia?

This is fascinating though and I want to say it loud what most probably thought about too:

Meg, is there any public information about Dusk/Dawn phases? Are they different?

Both Dusk and Dawn function as normal Mafia game eliminations, as well as Noon and Night function as normal mafia game night phases. They are functionally identical except they are distinct.

So it seems that Noon is the night phase for the Solar cult and the night is the night phase for the Lunar cult. In other words, based on flavor we can guess that the cults are even/off phase mechanically. But guess we'll see when we go

Anyways missed you, my friends. long time no see <3 been a while since I played a game here

VOTE: Bunnyonce

Nice to see you again Frozen Angel.

Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post.

~Greeting

Why?

Speaking for myself: the mechanical speculation and her enthusiasm seemed towny.

I guess you could argue that's a level 0 take, but whatever.

-Aisa

It is a level zero take, but it's acceptable this early in the game.

I am Mafia Goon.

VOTE: Enchant

I think you're legitimately more likely to make this post as a Mafia Goon than as anything else.

i don't buy this dumbtell given discussion of scum being cult themed+ ding awareness of postcount enough to steal pagetop.

No tell existed here...

1

2

3

4

This is an atrocious waste of posts! Speaking of post count, someone remind me. Is there a post limit this game, and if so, what is it?

VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

Maybe, but this is professotic we're talking about.

VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I’ll be honest, Tictac is paying more attention this game then I am.
I haven’t really read much of anything but I noticed he’s talking a bit in our hydra chat about stuff and reads and what not.

This doesn't track with my perceived ratio of your posts versus your partner's posts.

VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I mean, you right!

VOTE: professotic

{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just a

bit

more from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}

TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}


{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}


{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}

SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for

now

, this'll do.)

Hmm, I think I disagree with most of these reads.

Hey mastina

the number of posts so far:

Save the Dragons: 2
Yume: 1

Can you explain how the two of these are in your almost lock-town slots when their game hasn't even start yet? Yume practically posted nothing so far (Who is Talia btw?) and save the dragons made a weird comment about "if the mechanics are difficult" acting like he doesn't know this is a closed setup?

I don't plan on learning the mechanics are they difficult

I actually found that alarming in different ways

mastina has apparently mastered an art for interpreting early game posts. I haven't seen it to be too accurate in practice, but she'll place extreme confidence in it. I don't think it's really alarming not to engage in mechanics. Scum have more incentive to be engaged because scum mistakes tend to be costlier.

Also no one told me if the mechs are difficult lol

VOTE: frozen angel

That's not really a slip of any kind. This is clearly a bastard-esque game with an unusual day cycle. That's enough to imply that the mechanics are more complex than average.

There is this minigame I like to play from time to time called "guess the head". I'm particularly intrigued by who is Mumps, who is Measles, and who is Rubella.

[...]
But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not

I'm pretty sure it was just slightly unfortunate wording on Greeting's part. He could have said "FA is towny" instead of "FA is town" in the initial post and then we wouldn't be here having this discussion.

I realise this is an easy thing to say to cover up an apparent inconsistency after the posts have been made. I don't think there's anything more I can do to change minds at this point, so I'm gonna move on.

[...]
what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?

Just from browsing the thread right now, and without having discussed with Greeting, I feel like the Past Present Future slot might be Town. Call it vibes idk, just feel like their posting is on par for the course so far.

I'm gonna take it slow I think, I don't really know how to handle a good chunk of the playerlist and I don't really know what to do with the multiball aspect of the game.

-Aisa

I'll give you a hint: it should be quite obvious who is who by now. I hope though that you'll keep your guesses to yourself so that it doesn't distract the players who cannot tell us apart.

would really help if some discussions would happen in this game. It's hard to make conversations and do inferences over "Yo" and stuff of that kind

There's already been discussion around your slot, mastina, professotic, and Bunny... What more are you looking for?

can everyone just post at least 1 read they feel more comfortable about based on past 6 pages and at least 2 sentences explaining it?

No because this is busy work.
~Mumps

I only skimmed and haven’t bothered to read the rest, I might later I don’t know but I’ll respond to these here.

@MMR you stated the following

I don't like this post because it is a filler question and reads to me as "Tell me who is scum so I can mindlessly sheep without making a decision for myself".
In post 18, mastina wrote:
REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

Scum.
In post 31, professotic wrote:
VOTE: dingle
legit

How do you have a "legit" vote on Scarecrow based off a single post?“


So for the first thing you quoted, I do agree with you in that regard. Although I don’t think I ever played with TicTac other then this game.
But as I know I am town, I know that is NAI for them.

Also, in the Dingle thing they told me why they found it wolfy in Hydra Chat.

[professotic]

So just skimming.
It seems the posts you dislike are all made by TicTac.

[professotic]

Maybe try talking to the great professor?
Aka me who can make themselves obvious town.

[professotic]

Mastina is probably scum but it's not worth it

Radja is probably scum and it is worth it!

VOTE: Radja

I haven't actually read most of the thread yet, forgot how daunting Larges can be, BUT this stuck out to me skimming the last page.

What defines "worth it" here? Because it sure sounds like either mastina's your buddy, or you're trying to make us think she is.

Either way,
VOTE: T-Bone

I don’t like this push.
It feels like you know you won’t be pushing us as a wagon further and is going to someone else.

I find both those posts from T-Bone Null and Jokey.
Why did it warrant your vote?

[professotic]

having both of us posting in a row must be confusing 2 people
pedit: agree w that one

[T-Bone]

Mastina is probably scum but it's not worth it

Radja is probably scum and it is worth it!

VOTE: Radja

I haven't actually read most of the thread yet, forgot how daunting Larges can be, BUT this stuck out to me skimming the last page.

What defines "worth it" here? Because it sure sounds like either mastina's your buddy, or you're trying to make us think she is.

Either way,
VOTE: T-Bone

I define worth it, clearly.

[T-Bone]

You should sheep me Professor, all the top scumhunters are doing it.

[professotic]

You should sheep me Professor, all the top scumhunters are doing it.

No thanks.
I’m currently neutral on Radja, don’t got a read on them yet but there are others a find more wolfy.

[professotic]

Basically.

Town Pile: Furtive, Save the Dragons and MMR
Wolf Pile: Dingle, PPF, Radical and mastina
(Some in the wolf pile can subject to change depending on future events.)

[professotic]

TicTac said they TR T-Bone a bit so I’ll throw them into the Town Pile as well.