Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[Klick]

So I think professotic is scum
but Bella was like 'Professor Drapion is good I don't want him out yet'
but now she's saying she disagrees with a lot of his takes
so I asked if we could vote them pretty please
and she said yes
the end

VOTE: professotic

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

So I think professotic is scum
but Bella was like 'Professor Drapion is good I don't want him out yet'
but now she's saying she disagrees with a lot of his takes
so I asked if we could vote them pretty please
and she said yes
the end

VOTE: professotic

Sorry

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

VOTE: professotic

[mastina]

I swear that understanding mastina posts and reads was not this hard few years ago.

I mean, to be fair: I have internalized my process more, where I do a lot of things automatically that I used to write out manually.

Writing them out manually makes it much easier for others to understand, but I just don't have the time to do it most of the time which is why I learned to internalize it in the first place.

Also, I find that I have more value to the town by just acting like a bit of a shotgun flamethrower: pushing with a strong punch, to help lay down rapid-fire content for the rest of the town to react to and then interact with.

There are always players who end up ignoring my posts, but players reacting to my posts are not ignored by the players ignoring my posts, so there's always players who get extra content from me being in the game. So I'm not really concerned about accuracy. I try to be accurate, but I put a lot less work into being accurate.

I like to be lazy with my reads until I don't need to be lazy with them. Which means that I push them strongly, and then the town is usually left with a gamestate more suited for finding scum. It works well. I obviously would prefer to be accurate, and I think that I am more accurate than not. I legit think my reads are more right than wrong right now. But push come to shove, my reads don't

need

to be accurate for me to still generate value for the town--and thus, I don't really have as much incentive as I used to, to do more in-depth posts that show the nuances.

That said, often, I don't need to. When I'm right, usually others can see where I'm coming from. When I'm wrong, others have reasons that are usually harder to overcome because they are right and I am wrong. My rightness is easier to follow; my wrongness is harder to follow.

[mastina]

she specifically said she has no idea what she is doing with her meta read on me

Not true!

I know exactly what I am doing with you.

Your play is night and day different between your scumgames and towngames--that's a fact. Your townplay is nothing like your scumplay; your scumplay is nothing like your townplay. That is true.

These metas are very distinct and very obvious and very noticeable. That is true.

You are 100% playing to one of the two metas. You are absolutely in one of those two metas, not blurring it, not blending it, not hiding it, fitting that meta to a T. That is true.

All of this means I know exactly what I'm doing with my meta on you; I know all of the above is true.

The one and only area I falter in is knowing which meta is which.

You are either 100% town, or 100% scum, with absolutely no in-between. There's no room where your content is 75% towngame with 25% being scum, or 75% scumgame with 25% town. It is 100% fully and entirely in the established meta for the alignment you are. If you are scum then you are playing your scum meta to a T; if you are town, then you are playing your town meta to a T. Most players as town never have 100% of their towngame, and most players as scum never have 100% of your scumgame.

But you, whatever your alignment is, do have that 100%.

The one question is which alignment is which.

And I'm pretty sure this is the scumgame, from my memory.

That ain't me not knowing what I'm talking about. I know EXACTLY what I am talking about and it is guaranteed to be true. You're playing to an established meta, with zero divergence from said meta whatsoever. And the meta you are playing I

think

is the scum one.

[mastina]

VOTE: Past Present Future
This slot has gotten worse.

Good luck with that.

[MMR]

@mastina
I hope you don't mind but could you confirm if FA likes to distance as scum?
I heard Maid Cafe mention it but I don't know FA's scum meta.
-Rubella

[mastina]

I hope you don't mind but could you confirm if FA likes to distance as scum?

That I don't remember. I think she might, but this ain't the 100%, this is more like a 60%.

That said, multiball, so while we can safely say distancing is plausible, actual

bussing

is not.

[MMR]

I hope you don't mind but could you confirm if FA likes to distance as scum?

That I don't remember. I think she might, but this ain't the 100%, this is more like a 60%.

That said, multiball, so while we can safely say distancing is plausible, actual

bussing

is not.

I see.
I agree somewhat with the concluding sentence. Assuming that there's at most 3 scum per team, it makes sense that distancing is more likely to occur than bussing. The exception, I think, being the possibility that if scum realises that their partner is a lost cause and hammers them for the sake of it not being the expected.
-Rubella

[professotic]

VOTE: mastina
u r doing ur dead-thread thing using technically true statements to push nonsense.

The one and only area I falter in is knowing which meta is which.

i think this was the only lie in the post.

[professotic]

@tictac, can you link a town multiball game of yours? Thanks.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=88500
maf + arsonist closed game, it's the closest thing besides this one.

[Bunnyonce]

I do agree with you that mastina's read on STD is a bit off. I don't feel like his content at the time when she made the read, was exactly that Towny.
UNVOTE: FA for now.

That's the thing tho.

STD's town/scum meta are night/day different. And this game STD is a beacon of light. This is his towngame through and through. He's literally radiating his alignment, a shining beacon of towniness. He is town, 100%. Like, genuinely top-tier townread, town. He cannot be scum here.

Frozen Angel also has a town/scum meta that are night/day different. The asterisk to my read on FA here is that I don't know which is which.

I KNOW that FA has a night/day difference in her town meta and her scum meta.
I'm PRETTY sure that this is the night half, that this is the scum half, that this is FA as scum. But the asterisk on my read is that I might be remembering it backwards. I'm PRETTY sure I'm getting it right that this is the scum half tho.

I have never seen

FA

as scum. As town she's normally rather helpful and cooperative, and I believe that is how she's been so far.

~Greeting

[Bunnyonce]

I feel like this game has been going for a while now and there's many slots that haven't really done much.

Enchant

?

T-Bone

?

furtiveglance

?

~Greeting

[Bunnyonce]

I agree with the bad vibe

Radical Rat

expressed earlier about

professortic

and I think it's a genuine vibe (80).

I don't really understand the case on

T-Bone

though. I feel like he can be scumread for not contributing much to the game. To me, 151 and 152 sound like filler posts. But I do not see the associative read with

mastina

. Care to explain, @

RR

?

~Greeting

[Bunnyonce]

Save The Dragons

is being cranky in this game. I get cranky from time to time as well, and it's usually when I'm town, and when town pisses me off. Not saying this is a townread, but I think it happens to town-aligned players more often than mafia in general. I'm not willing to vote there at this stage of the game at least.

~Greeting

[Radja]

I've been keeping up on my phone, but the amount of players and hydra heads in this game make it hard for me to get much reads really.

[Enchant]

I feel like this game has been going for a while now and there's many slots that haven't really done much.

Enchant

?

T-Bone

?

furtiveglance

?

~Greeting

I am Cop

[professotic]

I think its bad that you townread FA for it.
That puts you down on the ladder for me.

I think its very possible you fabricated that read to position yourself close to FA, who usually is a very active player(been a while since I've played, but that's how I remember it)

u treating me/bun as interchangeable does make me think u interacting w the thread instead of sorting individuals.
first time playing w u tho. is this typical of u? (better answered by non-u actually if there is one w familiarity. u can designate someone)

can u name a player from phone?

[MegAzumarill]

Replacing Child of Fairies

Professotic was listed twice on the last 2 vote counts, this has been fixed.

[furtiveglance]

I feel like this game has been going for a while now and there's many slots that haven't really done much.

Enchant

?

T-Bone

?

furtiveglance

?

~Greeting

I'm sorry for this. I think prof is town and there are some very bad votes on them.

I want to vote Dingle for their bandwagoning crimes

VOTE: Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

[MegAzumarill]

Mathblade replaces Korina.

[furtiveglance]

Prodge/suspicion dodge

Sorry, follow up is that I understand the scumreading of FA but decided not to vote them because I think there is town in their awkwardness/pricklyness.

I want you to elaborate on your understanding of it and the reasons you didnt

I'm on mobile but what if the word 'vibes' answered your question?

[MathBlade]

Mathblade replaces Korina.

Confirming my replace in. I am working so haven’t read.

Anywhere I should read on my break?

[Dingle Dangle Scarecrow]

I feel like this game has been going for a while now and there's many slots that haven't really done much.

Enchant

?

T-Bone

?

furtiveglance

?

~Greeting

I'm sorry for this. I think prof is town and there are some very bad votes on them.

I want to vote Dingle for their bandwagoning crimes

VOTE: Dingle Dangle Scarecrow

This is a town take

[MegAzumarill]

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