Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[MathBlade]

Mastina is probably scum but it's not worth it

Radja is probably scum and it is worth it!

VOTE: Radja

VOTE: Radja

I am keeping my scope on you Mastina.

I think this wagon is where town is and should go.

[MathBlade]

who should we elim?

I don't like this post because it is a filler question and reads to me as "Tell me who is scum so I can mindlessly sheep without making a decision for myself".

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

Scum.

VOTE: dingle
legit

How do you have a "legit" vote on Scarecrow based off a single post?

I dare someone to call one of those 2 entrance posts I made wolfy and they can prepare for utter annihilation!

Congratulations, your entrance posts were wolfy. But now that I've checked who is in your slot, I'm much less confident about you being a wolf.

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)

shifty is patent protected btw.

I am Talia. Believe it or not, it's true. As true as the fact that Aegon the Conqueror had two wives.

Who is talia?

This is fascinating though and I want to say it loud what most probably thought about too:

Meg, is there any public information about Dusk/Dawn phases? Are they different?

Both Dusk and Dawn function as normal Mafia game eliminations, as well as Noon and Night function as normal mafia game night phases. They are functionally identical except they are distinct.

So it seems that Noon is the night phase for the Solar cult and the night is the night phase for the Lunar cult. In other words, based on flavor we can guess that the cults are even/off phase mechanically. But guess we'll see when we go

Anyways missed you, my friends. long time no see <3 been a while since I played a game here

VOTE: Bunnyonce

Nice to see you again Frozen Angel.

Both Aisa and I think Frozen Angel is town for this post.

~Greeting

Why?

Speaking for myself: the mechanical speculation and her enthusiasm seemed towny.

I guess you could argue that's a level 0 take, but whatever.

-Aisa

It is a level zero take, but it's acceptable this early in the game.

I am Mafia Goon.

VOTE: Enchant

I think you're legitimately more likely to make this post as a Mafia Goon than as anything else.

i don't buy this dumbtell given discussion of scum being cult themed+ ding awareness of postcount enough to steal pagetop.

No tell existed here...

1

2

3

4

This is an atrocious waste of posts! Speaking of post count, someone remind me. Is there a post limit this game, and if so, what is it?

VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

Maybe, but this is professotic we're talking about.

VOTE: professotic

I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I’ll be honest, Tictac is paying more attention this game then I am.
I haven’t really read much of anything but I noticed he’s talking a bit in our hydra chat about stuff and reads and what not.

This doesn't track with my perceived ratio of your posts versus your partner's posts.

VOTE: professotic
I can't really quantify it, but it feels like they're playing looking for someone to kill rather than looking for scum. Just the way they're engaging feels... Wrong.

I mean, you right!

VOTE: professotic

{Past Present Future} (most locktown of locktown)
{Save the Dragons, Yume} (basically most, but need just a

bit

more from both to be sure)
{Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (may be one lower)}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}

TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}


{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}


{Frozen Angel}
{Bunnyonce}

SCUM:
{Korina}
{professotic}

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for

now

, this'll do.)

Hmm, I think I disagree with most of these reads.

Hey mastina

the number of posts so far:

Save the Dragons: 2
Yume: 1

Can you explain how the two of these are in your almost lock-town slots when their game hasn't even start yet? Yume practically posted nothing so far (Who is Talia btw?) and save the dragons made a weird comment about "if the mechanics are difficult" acting like he doesn't know this is a closed setup?

I don't plan on learning the mechanics are they difficult

I actually found that alarming in different ways

mastina has apparently mastered an art for interpreting early game posts. I haven't seen it to be too accurate in practice, but she'll place extreme confidence in it. I don't think it's really alarming not to engage in mechanics. Scum have more incentive to be engaged because scum mistakes tend to be costlier.

Also no one told me if the mechs are difficult lol

VOTE: frozen angel

That's not really a slip of any kind. This is clearly a bastard-esque game with an unusual day cycle. That's enough to imply that the mechanics are more complex than average.

There is this minigame I like to play from time to time called "guess the head". I'm particularly intrigued by who is Mumps, who is Measles, and who is Rubella.

[...]
But that doesn't matter to me as much as how you contradicted yourself on tone there in a way later on, at first saying yeah its a town read and both heads of hydra fully agree and then falling back on the read and claiming its just a hunch practically without any other development in game to justify the tone switch. Like I don't hold people responsible that much for their page 2 reads but I'm looking for people developments from one point to another to judge if it was faked or not

I'm pretty sure it was just slightly unfortunate wording on Greeting's part. He could have said "FA is towny" instead of "FA is town" in the initial post and then we wouldn't be here having this discussion.

I realise this is an easy thing to say to cover up an apparent inconsistency after the posts have been made. I don't think there's anything more I can do to change minds at this point, so I'm gonna move on.

[...]
what are your reads besides that "level 0" town read on my slot from everything else that's being said?

Just from browsing the thread right now, and without having discussed with Greeting, I feel like the Past Present Future slot might be Town. Call it vibes idk, just feel like their posting is on par for the course so far.

I'm gonna take it slow I think, I don't really know how to handle a good chunk of the playerlist and I don't really know what to do with the multiball aspect of the game.

-Aisa

I'll give you a hint: it should be quite obvious who is who by now. I hope though that you'll keep your guesses to yourself so that it doesn't distract the players who cannot tell us apart.

would really help if some discussions would happen in this game. It's hard to make conversations and do inferences over "Yo" and stuff of that kind

There's already been discussion around your slot, mastina, professotic, and Bunny... What more are you looking for?

can everyone just post at least 1 read they feel more comfortable about based on past 6 pages and at least 2 sentences explaining it?

No because this is busy work.
~Mumps

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

[MathBlade]

i guess i'll take some time to try to articulate what bothered me about FA and we can go over it

I don't plan on learning the mechanics are they difficult

I actually found that alarming in different ways

this to me seems like fa is trying to sus me for something that reasonably should be a playstyle, nai thing that i said. I think town would recognize it and respond normally, while scum might jump on it as something that looks like it might have meat on it when it really doesnt.

1 - not unintrested, I'm asking and inviting for conversations to happen

i said uninterested because FA never made a comment since then about being alarmed and has been posting other content. it makes me think that "being alarmed" is not serious enough to warrant any sort of sorting behavior. Hence, FA just said that to throw shade and test the waters without having to get invested.

Your lack of awareness about what happened in game with such low content being posted right now sounds off-putting in ways

Despite shading me and then claiming she never did, she goes on to try to discredit me and my read by saying I have a lack of awareness.

Our discussion after is kind of meh, this is the meat and potatoes of my problem with FA. Someone please tell me, yes? no? bad? good? right? wrong? see it? don't see it?

FA is a complex bag. If you’re town (you’re a scumlean to me) FA is unique in some of her posting. I think treating her like a common mafia player is a recipe for disaster. If she’s town (as I suspect she is) giving her room to breathe will demonstrate it. She has an emotional “tell” to me. That’s not the right phrasing but I can’t think of better.

[MathBlade]

that seems like an overreaction

Uhmmm please don’t take this the wrong way but…

This is probably FA town. I don’t know how to explain further without being rude.

[MathBlade]

Objection: Speculative!

not a courtroom.
the space of all possible actions is large tho.

Motion denied. Even if I remove courtroom terminology, I cannot change the way I think.

~Titus

Submitting a request for discovery from Titus head regarding mechanics especially but not exclusively Mastina’s post. Would also like to request where Titus and Nancy head disagree and where you agree.

Doesn’t have to be every read. Just want to see where your thoughts are.

[MMR]

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

Mumps has said in our Hydra Chat that his vote on you was independent of mastina, as he believes that this is ‘Math's scum meta’.
He changed back because I'm not entirely convinced on scum!Math.
So, sorry for the hydra dissonance.
-Rubella

[Past Present Future]

I think I figured out who’s who. Rubella is RH9, Ircher is Measles and Roden Mumps because Mumps seems somewhat grumpy and I don’t recall seeing Ircher and especially RH9 ever grumpy.

If Yume makes another appearance I’d still like to know why she naked voted Prof.

Also @Math why the scumlean on STD?

[Past Present Future]

Objection: Speculative!

not a courtroom.
the space of all possible actions is large tho.

Motion denied. Even if I remove courtroom terminology, I cannot change the way I think.

~Titus

Submitting a request for discovery from Titus head regarding mechanics especially but not exclusively Mastina’s post. Would also like to request where Titus and Nancy head disagree and where you agree.

Doesn’t have to be every read. Just want to see where your thoughts are.

Request received, court will recess until Titus gets back from DnD.

[Past Present Future]

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

Mumps has said in our Hydra Chat that his vote on you was independent of mastina, as he believes that this is ‘Math's scum meta’.
He changed back because I'm not entirely convinced on scum!Math.
So, sorry for the hydra dissonance.
-Rubella

What does Measles/Ircher think about it?

[MathBlade]

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

Mumps has said in our Hydra Chat that his vote on you was independent of mastina, as he believes that this is ‘Math's scum meta’.
He changed back because I'm not entirely convinced on scum!Math.
So, sorry for the hydra dissonance.
-Rubella

It’s not a “sorry” thing.

It’s more a I wanted to see if scum opportunist thing.

Hydra dissonance does happen but it seems to be going on a lot if you look at the post I quoted and some later posts. If you’re town I suggest you smooth that out and find points of common agreement.

[MathBlade]

I think I figured out who’s who. Rubella is RH9, Ircher is Measles and Roden Mumps because Mumps seems somewhat grumpy and I don’t recall seeing Ircher and especially RH9 ever grumpy.

If Yume makes another appearance I’d still like to know why she naked voted Prof.

Also @Math why the scumlean on STD?

Explained earlier.

I didn’t like STD’s focus on FA for doing things when Mastina was doing them worse.

It’s only a lean though as I could see town StD doing it but it’s unlike him to be sucked into drama.

[MathBlade]

I would appreciate you not putting heads even if you are right. If you are right then that takes away and avenue to read them. And if you’re wrong it’s just confusing. If they want the cred of Ircher or RH9 or Mumps

then

they must out the head.

But if they don’t want to be outed please respect that.

[mastina]

(Obviously I'm not done done in talking, have plenty more to say, but like. Shit's going on. Can't game tonight. I wasn't planning on posting at all.)

[Radical Rat]

I'm still here, still haven't properly read. My less-busy section of week is approaching and I'll do a proper reading then, pinky swear.

For now though, rough instinct says MathBlade Town.

[MathBlade]

(Obviously I'm not done done in talking, have plenty more to say, but like. Shit's going on. Can't game tonight. I wasn't planning on posting at all.)

I am sending you hugs for RL.

I think you’re scum but you deserve hugs if you want them.

[Past Present Future]

I would appreciate you not putting heads even if you are right. If you are right then that takes away and avenue to read them. And if you’re wrong it’s just confusing. If they want the cred of Ircher or RH9 or Mumps

then

they must out the head.

But if they don’t want to be outed please respect that.

We’re not discussing alts and knowing who’s who helps me determine how much I can trust the read. So, I respectfully disagree with you about this, especially since there’s been hydra dissonance. In SC 2 (I think it was?), it was different because the duckling/Shoshin hydra had 0 dissonance so it really didn’t matter too much.

I’ve been in many games where head signing was part of the ruleset.

People have said in many games I’ve hydra’d in that they had a different take on my slot based off of which head was posting.

~Nancy (head so no one accuses me of hypocrisy here).

[MathBlade]

Alrighty. I can see that side. Sorry.

[MegAzumarill]

Prodding T-Bone

[MMR]

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

Mumps has said in our Hydra Chat that his vote on you was independent of mastina, as he believes that this is ‘Math's scum meta’.
He changed back because I'm not entirely convinced on scum!Math.
So, sorry for the hydra dissonance.
-Rubella

What does Measles/Ircher think about it?

Oops.
I confused things up. Ircher thinks that it's 'Math's scum meta' not Mumps.
But I think that the vote was for the same reason.
-Rubella

[MMR]

Actually, no.
I reread our Hydra Chat and I was right beforehand.
My memory's bad.
-Rubella

[MMR]

Measles didn't say anything about the vote.
-Rubella

[MMR]

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

Mumps has said in our Hydra Chat that his vote on you was independent of mastina, as he believes that this is ‘Math's scum meta’.
He changed back because I'm not entirely convinced on scum!Math.
So, sorry for the hydra dissonance.
-Rubella

It’s not a “sorry” thing.

It’s more a I wanted to see if scum opportunist thing.

Hydra dissonance does happen but it seems to be going on a lot if you look at the post I quoted and some later posts. If you’re town I suggest you smooth that out and find points of common agreement.

I'll try to talk to the others more.
The truth is that we aren't using our Hydra Chat often enough which has not helped in a collective SR.
-Rubella

[Past Present Future]

Actually, no.
I reread our Hydra Chat and I was right beforehand.
My memory's bad.
-Rubella

So you and Ircher think Math’s town and Roden is the one who’s sr him. Got it.

I haven’t heard any self-pitying posts about popularly yet, so I’ll take that as good sign for now. No offence @Math but if you ever do that I’ll yeet you into next week.

eta: just saw MMR’s most recent post, Ircher hasn’t expressed a read.

@Math it’s fine. <3

[MathBlade]

Actually, no.
I reread our Hydra Chat and I was right beforehand.
My memory's bad.
-Rubella

So you and Ircher think Math’s town and Roden is the one who’s sr him. Got it.

I haven’t heard any self-pitying posts about popularly yet, so I’ll take that as good sign for now. No offence @Math but if you ever do that I’ll yeet you into next week.

eta: just saw MMR’s most recent post, Ircher hasn’t expressed a read.

@Math it’s fine. <3

Don’t worry. I don’t think I will be yeeted this game.

Call it a good hunch.

I think today goes (barring wild swings) professor wagon dies or maybe not but I won’t join it.

I give professor wagon a 75% chance of collapse here as it seems like a remnant of RVS.

Then we see if theory of scumfluence is right.

[Past Present Future]

@MMR hydra — Is there severe hydra dissonance? What’s going on here?

It’s vastly weird to sheep a scumread like you did.

Mumps has said in our Hydra Chat that his vote on you was independent of mastina, as he believes that this is ‘Math's scum meta’.
He changed back because I'm not entirely convinced on scum!Math.
So, sorry for the hydra dissonance.
-Rubella

It’s not a “sorry” thing.

It’s more a I wanted to see if scum opportunist thing.

Hydra dissonance does happen but it seems to be going on a lot if you look at the post I quoted and some later posts. If you’re town I suggest you smooth that out and find points of common agreement.

I'll try to talk to the others more.
The truth is that we aren't using our Hydra Chat often enough which has not helped in a collective SR.
-Rubella

Can relate. It’s always fun when you find your other head expressed a read, only to wonder why you didn’t hear anything about it before they posted.