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Post Post #700 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:50 am

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In post 698, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 697, MathBlade wrote:Titus head is capable of way more whatever her alignment is.

She needs to show that effort.
It’s one of my strongest gripes in nearly every single game I hydra in that I usually wind up being forced to be the active head but that was also true in LOST as well, wasn’t it? Most of the DP posts were made by me.
Probably? I like I said can’t tell you.

You could tell me I posted memes all day and if a skim of my ISO had a few memes I’d believe you.

I gotta go now

But using LOST when I was scum and incapable of fine details probably not the best.

If you really find me scum best to use a different game.
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Post Post #701 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:00 am

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There’s also a post about you saying Titus isn’t “Titusing” or whatever. I’m noy saying I sr you, I’m questioning why you’re making similar arguments.

You seem to not be getting my point, which is that I don’t know why I should be trusting your Mastina takes when I think it doesn’t really make sense to me that you have us in a PoE of three. Saying you are nullreading or even don’t tr us for all of the reasons you gave is fine but I’m not trusting anyone’s reads who puts us in a PoE of three.

Not trusting your reads /= sr you. I’m pretty much paranoid rn of most of the players in this game, you included.
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Post Post #702 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:05 am

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Radja (3) T-Bone, MMR, Mathblade [E-6]

professotic (2) Mastina, Yume,
Mastina (2) professotic, Frozen Angel
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MMR (1) Maid Cafe
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Not Voting (4) Child of Fairies, Save the Dragons, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow, Past Present Future


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Deadline: 4 Days*

*Deadline will not officially decrease below 4 days until a replacement is found for Child of Fairies.
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Post Post #703 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:11 am

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In post 678, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 653, professotic wrote:I should also say this.

TicTac said the following things in wolf chat:
Mastina should know them best and shouldn’t be wolf reading them here if they are town.
PPF’s hydra members (Titus and Nancy) apparently have reverse reads.
Says that one should be town reading him and the other should be incorrectly wolf reading him.

But it’s somehow vice versa or whatever.
I gotta say this makes absolutely no sense to me. Why should I be sr your slot and Titus tr it? I really want an explanation for that.
u saw me (tictac) last as inactive town, titus as inactive scum.
so the reads are different from what i expected.
tis a random pt-ramble i didn't feel like sharing in main.
r u mainly reading us from drap then?

also mastina push on fa is a better reason 2 scumread mastina since it's clear intentional nonsense as opposed the push on me which is just "prof-scum" + vote, which folk sometimes do as town.
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Post Post #704 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:14 am

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In post 604, mastina wrote:he whom smelt it, dealt it
this post was funny
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Post Post #705 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:16 am

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@radj still would like a name of a player who is familiar w u.
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Post Post #706 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:30 am

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In post 703, professotic wrote:
In post 678, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 653, professotic wrote:I should also say this.

TicTac said the following things in wolf chat:
Mastina should know them best and shouldn’t be wolf reading them here if they are town.
PPF’s hydra members (Titus and Nancy) apparently have reverse reads.
Says that one should be town reading him and the other should be incorrectly wolf reading him.

But it’s somehow vice versa or whatever.
I gotta say this makes absolutely no sense to me. Why should I be sr your slot and Titus tr it? I really want an explanation for that.
u saw me (tictac) last as inactive town, titus as inactive scum.
so the reads are different from what i expected.
tis a random pt-ramble i didn't feel like sharing in main.
r u mainly reading us from drap then?

also mastina push on fa is a better reason 2 scumread mastina since it's clear intentional nonsense as opposed the push on me which is just "prof-scum" + vote, which folk sometimes do as town.
Which game are you referring to? Last two games I recall playing with you, one Titus wasn’t even in, the other one she was town.

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Unless you were in Masque?
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Post Post #707 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:34 am

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You were pretty active in both Squid and FFIV, so I have no idea which game you were inactive town in?

I don’t think I’ve ever seen your scumgame.

Ftr, I’m not generally one to put too much stock into activity reads unless a player has a clear pattern that is ai.
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Post Post #708 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:36 am

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=89835
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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=87655
u. don't actually recall another game w u.
ah squid.
and day1-inactive i suppose.
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Post Post #709 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:42 am

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In post 703, professotic wrote:
In post 678, Past Present Future wrote:
In post 653, professotic wrote:I should also say this.

TicTac said the following things in wolf chat:
Mastina should know them best and shouldn’t be wolf reading them here if they are town.
PPF’s hydra members (Titus and Nancy) apparently have reverse reads.
Says that one should be town reading him and the other should be incorrectly wolf reading him.

But it’s somehow vice versa or whatever.
I gotta say this makes absolutely no sense to me. Why should I be sr your slot and Titus tr it? I really want an explanation for that.
u saw me (tictac) last as inactive town, titus as inactive scum.
so the reads are different from what i expected.
tis a random pt-ramble i didn't feel like sharing in main.
r u mainly reading us from drap then?

also mastina push on fa is a better reason 2 scumread mastina since it's clear intentional nonsense as opposed the push on me which is just "prof-scum" + vote, which folk sometimes do as town.
Well I don’t get that but making sense or not making sense is pretty much nia for Mastina. I was in a game where’s she was scum and her reads actually did make sense. I sr her because her tone was really over the top and obviously faked. Iow, I don’t know if that’s actually a reliable reason for sr Mastina.

That’s the thing making or not making sense has been nia for her in my experience. I can link games where her reads made logical sense as both alignments and also games as both where they didn’t.
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Post Post #710 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:49 am

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i mean, it's not only the not making sense.
it's the full lack of meaning behind the word-salad.
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Post Post #711 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:56 am

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In post 708, professotic wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=89835
titus
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=87655
u. don't actually recall another game w u.
ah squid.
and day1-inactive i suppose.
Well Titus actually sounds very different from LOST in that game but you sound similar to me in all of them. Both of you look similar to your towngames but I don’t think I have any experience with either of your scumgames.

But despite that, I think your slot is probably town. My strongest srs rn are still Yume and Radja but I think Yume putting a naked vote on your slot reminds me of her play in Anything uPick. Also TBoNTB but AuP is probably more representative because in that game she naked voted Ircher but never explained it.
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Post Post #712 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:57 am

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VOTE: Yume
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Post Post #713 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:06 am

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In post 710, professotic wrote:i mean, it's not only the not making sense.
it's the full lack of meaning behind the word-salad.
It’s possible? But her tone isn’t off. Only thing kind of worrying me somewhat was her not taking into account what I said about FA meta.

@Mastina what are your current reads on Yume, Radja, Prof, Math, FA?

I have to agree I especially don’t understand your reads on Prof, Math and FA.
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Post Post #714 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:44 am

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In post 653, professotic wrote:I should also say this.

TicTac said the following things in wolf chat:
Mastina should know them best and shouldn’t be wolf reading them here if they are town.
PPF’s hydra members (Titus and Nancy) apparently have reverse reads.
Says that one should be town reading him and the other should be incorrectly wolf reading him.
But it’s somehow vice versa or whatever.
In post 658, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 628, Radja wrote:T-Bone's was weird to me, but doesn't really bother me much
PPF: idk, didn't stand out to me
furtiveglance: bad naked vote
MMR: idk, didn't stand out to me
Math: I thought he was agreeing with me but then voted me, kinda weird

I have no clue why professotic is getting votes, so I would love to hear why.

(so basically I don't remember PPF and MMR's votes on me from my quick read through)
I also try not to care about people voting me. I just want to do my thing and if that isn't enough to get people to think I'm town, then I guess it's up to the rest of the players to understand who was mafia driving my wagon.
Like, if this guy is a wolf he's not really trying that hard to save himself with posts like these.
Radja trying hard to save himself would confirm him in many people's eyes.

Here's a counterpoint. He's scum and knows he's caught and is lost on how to do anything about it.
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Post Post #715 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:45 am

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Damn multiquote thing. I was gonna make fun of the scumslip but furitive beat me to it.
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Post Post #716 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:49 am

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Hot take scum reads: Radja, Dingle Dangle, Radical Rat slot
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Post Post #717 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:58 am

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I don't think it's Prof or Radja anymore. Don't think it's Mastina either
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Post Post #718 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:59 am

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I think Prof saying 'wolf chat' is a bit of a dead end because they are clearly in a hydra chat.
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Post Post #719 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:16 am

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In post 714, T-Bone wrote:Radja trying hard to save himself would confirm him in many people's eyes.

Here's a counterpoint. He's scum and knows he's caught and is lost on how to do anything about it.
While I haven't played with Radja and I get what you're saying on paper I just find it hard to fully believe a wolf would just sit here and go "oh well" I guess I could buy into the world where he's the scum counterwagon to pro given I think they're a villager but ehhhhhh. Why not people like MMR or Enchant?
Why are you... the only one causing me so much confusion?
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Post Post #720 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:17 am

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In post 672, MathBlade wrote:
In post 667, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 664, MathBlade wrote:I have to work unfortunately but will get to this on my break.

If you can’t wait that long my ISO has plenty of reasons.
I can wait, most of the reasons I remember were in the Mastina v you filler that I (mostly) skimmed. Most of Mastina's post just make me go "Yeah that's her alright" but it'd be the same as flipping a coin if you asked me what she ends up being.
Looks like I won’t get a long dedicated break until late tonight

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Mastina is not looking at the overarching game and instead hyper focusing (see above for difference)
Her posts seem to be factually correct but overall meaningless (Eg town and scum exist in the game. Well duh)
The things that aren’t meaningless are skewed in a weird way (Eg the 52% is well within the standard deviation. If I do something as town or scum then by definition it’s NAI. Her *best* example of me being scum is NAI. That should tell you I am not scum)
I'll even wagon Mastina to see where it goes for a bit.

I shall be the white knight to defend the poor helpless top wagons.
Why are you... the only one causing me so much confusion?
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Post Post #721 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:52 am

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In post 720, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 672, MathBlade wrote:
In post 667, Maid Cafe wrote:
In post 664, MathBlade wrote:I have to work unfortunately but will get to this on my break.

If you can’t wait that long my ISO has plenty of reasons.
I can wait, most of the reasons I remember were in the Mastina v you filler that I (mostly) skimmed. Most of Mastina's post just make me go "Yeah that's her alright" but it'd be the same as flipping a coin if you asked me what she ends up being.
Looks like I won’t get a long dedicated break until late tonight

The gist is
Mastina is not looking at the overarching game and instead hyper focusing (see above for difference)
Her posts seem to be factually correct but overall meaningless (Eg town and scum exist in the game. Well duh)
The things that aren’t meaningless are skewed in a weird way (Eg the 52% is well within the standard deviation. If I do something as town or scum then by definition it’s NAI. Her *best* example of me being scum is NAI. That should tell you I am not scum)
I'll even wagon Mastina to see where it goes for a bit.

I shall be the white knight to defend the poor helpless top wagons.
Or you could help by replacing the top wagons ;)
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Post Post #722 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:09 pm

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I would be lying if I said I didn't power skim the last 15 pages, I'll try my best to still make sense.
In post 526, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 311, Bunnyonce wrote: I have never seen FA as scum. As town she's normally rather helpful and cooperative, and I believe that is how she's been so far.

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I don't get it. why everyone is forcing themself to write something about my meta? how is that even helpful to form a read on me?
...Greeting's read on you is based on meta, why wouldn't he explain that?

I kinda like mastina's case on MathBlade, actually. I don't have a ton of experience with him, but the one game we did play together he did a lot less self meta and that throws me off?

I still think mastina should make a decision on which side of FA's meta we are in and be forced to defend that decision.

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Post Post #723 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:14 pm

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@FA, what do you think of Radja's explanation of why they commented on our post, but not other similar posts?
In post 717, furtiveglance wrote:[...]
Don't think it's Mastina either
Why not?

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Post Post #724 (ISO) » Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:18 pm

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In post 723, Bunnyonce wrote:@FA, what do you think of Radja's explanation of why they commented on our post, but not other similar posts?
In post 717, furtiveglance wrote:[...]
Don't think it's Mastina either
Why not?

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Just seems towny n that. Granted I only have 1 towngame of experience with em but still
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