Cosmos Mafia (Dawn 1)

[professotic]

Hot take scum reads: Radja, Dingle Dangle, Radical Rat slot

I can get behind this but I also believe Mastina and PPF should be on here.

[professotic]

I don't think it's Prof or Radja anymore. Don't think it's Mastina either

Hmm.
How about this?

VOTE: Radical Rat

[professotic]

@MMR
@Maid Cafe
@Save the Dragons replacement

Opinions on this slot?

[professotic]

@FA, what do you think of Radja's explanation of why they commented on our post, but not other similar posts?

[...]
Don't think it's Mastina either

Why not?

-Aisa

Just seems towny n that. Granted I only have 1 towngame of experience with em but still

Hot Take:
Bunny is wolves with Mastina and is talking to Furtive!Town here.
Which if you all look is something a wolf can do cause it could be done for serval reasons here that benefit them in that situation.

[mastina]

I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
I DO think that at least one scumteam TMI'd there being a scumteam of 3 tho--in part because of the reactions to my post, and them thinking "oh mastina scumslipped she's one of the other scumteam".
Will explain what I mean tomorrow but I'm VERY confident in this because I know something the other scumteam doesn't. (Well, two things. One being that I am town.)
So I think they fucked themselves over.

Crap I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
And I was gonna write it tonight,

(Basically I think we have guaranteed scum here--it's not a surefire thing for both teams to be teams of 3, but I am convinced there is at least one team of 3, and that team of 3 believed that I am on the other scumteam and by virtue of them being a team of 3, they assumed their mirror is also a team of 3, and assuming that, assumed that my mention of 6 scum was a scumslip of me being on the other team. Ironically in the process scumslipping themselves. Where they TMI'd in response to what they thought was TMI.)

There’s probably at least one scumteam of 3, which believes that I scumslipped.

Now, for the proof.
Okay, so basically:

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)

These were my opening posts in the game.

Read them, and think about them from the perspective of this being a game where:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair,
We don't know if it's a cult game with usual cult mechanics,
And we don't know if it's somewhere between the two extremes.

We don't know if we start the game with only two scum (altho we can infer it's doubtful), we don't know if we start the game with eight scum (altho I laid out why I believe that's doubtful), we don't know that the scumteams are symmetrical, we don't know that the scumteams have the same mechanics, we don't know how many scum are on a team.

To be fair, unless the mod specifically gave them information about their opposing scumteam, the scum don't know if the scum have the same mechanics/size as each other. However, you get the idea. The town doesn't know

anything

about the scum, other than that there are two different scumteams. That's it. That's what they know.

Okay, so given that:
The proof of what I'm saying is in my opening post:
My opening post implies that there’s cult recruitment. I roleplayed abandoning a claim of leading a cult, and roleplayed abandoning a cult-fakeclaiming-Mason claim.

If there were two scumteams of 1-2 each with a recruitment mechanic, they would view my post as a scumslip. (Or, heck, even if only one scumteam was that way.) My opening two posts can--very very easily--be read as me being cult. I am known for being an incredibly cheeky scumfuck. I am known for claiming mason as a cult leader. I am known for not bothering to hide that I am scum and being very open as to the how and the mechanics used, telling huge truths.

Including being the type to be cheeky enough to claim scum in my first post--I've done it before, multiple times. (I can show those scumteams if you want to see the examples yourselves, but yes, scumastina is known for that sort of thing.)


Alright, so let's break this down so far, to make sure you're following.
REMEMBER:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair, a cult game with usual cult mechanics, or somewhere between the two extremes. We don't know how many scum start in the game, if the scumteams are symmetrical, or if the scum share the same mechanics.

My opening post was one that could be seen as either a deliberate cheeky scumfuck post,
Or even as an accidental scumslip.

"mastina slipped that this is a cult game where the scum have voting powers".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.
"mastina is being a cheeky scumfuck telling us that she's a cultist in her first post".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.

Nobody did, though. Nobody thought that my opening post was a scumslip. Nobody thought that my opening post was me being a cheeky scumfuck.

If there were a scumteam of 1-2 scum, why didn't they think I was their counterpart?

They might not want to say it's a scumslip per se, but they could still use it as a reason to push me. They could scumread me, they could press me, without revealing their TMI. If someone were on a scumteam of 1-2 and saw my opening post, they would think my opening post was TMI. And thinking that, they could use this to push me. Except nobody did. The first vote on me?

VOTE: mastina

This, which was

after

my post 92, and

after

the first player calling attention to my 92.

Which suggests that there isn't actually two factions of 1-2.

If there was two factions of 1-2, they should've seen my

opening

post as the scumslip

. Yet they didn't.

So, what does that tell you?

That at least one faction has three, and precisely three, members.

And this faction genuinely believes that I TMI'd thanks to THEM having TMI.

Notably, proof of this is in MathBlade's replacement.

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.

Wdm cult game
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.

Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?

Notice something?

In this post, MathBlade sees me imply a 1-2 member cult mafia faction but

doesn't think it's suspicious

.

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for

now

, this'll do.)

This post by Mastina is suspicious.
It’s clear from the presenters here we don’t know if cult can recruit.
Yet somehow Mastina ends up on 6 because why?
VOTE: mastina

Yet here, me stating ~6 scum, MathBlade sees as suspect.

So the crux of the issue then becomes:

Why was the 3-man scumteam callout considered a scumslip, but the 1-2-man cult callout

not

considered a scumslip?

If MathBlade were town, then

my very first post

should have pinged him as a scumslip showing TMI of a 1-2-man cult.
If MathBlade were a member of a 1-2-man scumteam, he should have thought my opening post was a scumslip showing TMI of being his opposite.

But MathBlade didn't react to my first post being a cult game callout.

MathBlade only reacted to my post where I made the callout of a

three-man

scumteam.

And this is true of all the players who have gone on to suspect me.
Their pressure on me didn't begin until

after

144.

(Side-note, Bunnyonce might be scum, too, but if so is on the

opposite

team.)

So what does all of this mean?

That there is a scumteam with three members, who believed that my callout of there being six scum in the game was me as the opposite scumteam doing a TMI scumslip--when themselves ironically TMI'ing.

I still think that team is {MathBlade, professotic, Frozen Angel}, but obviously, I am behind and need to read the game.

[MathBlade]

I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
I DO think that at least one scumteam TMI'd there being a scumteam of 3 tho--in part because of the reactions to my post, and them thinking "oh mastina scumslipped she's one of the other scumteam".
Will explain what I mean tomorrow but I'm VERY confident in this because I know something the other scumteam doesn't. (Well, two things. One being that I am town.)
So I think they fucked themselves over.

Crap I have a very important post about why I think there is at least one scumteam with 3 players and that they have TMI'd this to be the case and why I think that,
And I was gonna write it tonight,

(Basically I think we have guaranteed scum here--it's not a surefire thing for both teams to be teams of 3, but I am convinced there is at least one team of 3, and that team of 3 believed that I am on the other scumteam and by virtue of them being a team of 3, they assumed their mirror is also a team of 3, and assuming that, assumed that my mention of 6 scum was a scumslip of me being on the other team. Ironically in the process scumslipping themselves. Where they TMI'd in response to what they thought was TMI.)

There’s probably at least one scumteam of 3, which believes that I scumslipped.

Now, for the proof.
Okay, so basically:

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.

Hi, I am town.

(Okay but for real, I intend to be a BEACON this game, REVEALING the TRUE COLORS of all.)

These were my opening posts in the game.

Read them, and think about them from the perspective of this being a game where:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair,
We don't know if it's a cult game with usual cult mechanics,
And we don't know if it's somewhere between the two extremes.

We don't know if we start the game with only two scum (altho we can infer it's doubtful), we don't know if we start the game with eight scum (altho I laid out why I believe that's doubtful), we don't know that the scumteams are symmetrical, we don't know that the scumteams have the same mechanics, we don't know how many scum are on a team.

To be fair, unless the mod specifically gave them information about their opposing scumteam, the scum don't know if the scum have the same mechanics/size as each other. However, you get the idea. The town doesn't know

anything

about the scum, other than that there are two different scumteams. That's it. That's what they know.

Okay, so given that:
The proof of what I'm saying is in my opening post:
My opening post implies that there’s cult recruitment. I roleplayed abandoning a claim of leading a cult, and roleplayed abandoning a cult-fakeclaiming-Mason claim.

If there were two scumteams of 1-2 each with a recruitment mechanic, they would view my post as a scumslip. (Or, heck, even if only one scumteam was that way.) My opening two posts can--very very easily--be read as me being cult. I am known for being an incredibly cheeky scumfuck. I am known for claiming mason as a cult leader. I am known for not bothering to hide that I am scum and being very open as to the how and the mechanics used, telling huge truths.

Including being the type to be cheeky enough to claim scum in my first post--I've done it before, multiple times. (I can show those scumteams if you want to see the examples yourselves, but yes, scumastina is known for that sort of thing.)


Alright, so let's break this down so far, to make sure you're following.
REMEMBER:
We don't know if it's normal mafia multiball without extremely special flair, a cult game with usual cult mechanics, or somewhere between the two extremes. We don't know how many scum start in the game, if the scumteams are symmetrical, or if the scum share the same mechanics.

My opening post was one that could be seen as either a deliberate cheeky scumfuck post,
Or even as an accidental scumslip.

"mastina slipped that this is a cult game where the scum have voting powers".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.
"mastina is being a cheeky scumfuck telling us that she's a cultist in her first post".
That is an argument that could have easily been made by players.

Nobody did, though. Nobody thought that my opening post was a scumslip. Nobody thought that my opening post was me being a cheeky scumfuck.

If there were a scumteam of 1-2 scum, why didn't they think I was their counterpart?

They might not want to say it's a scumslip per se, but they could still use it as a reason to push me. They could scumread me, they could press me, without revealing their TMI. If someone were on a scumteam of 1-2 and saw my opening post, they would think my opening post was TMI. And thinking that, they could use this to push me. Except nobody did. The first vote on me?

VOTE: mastina

This, which was

after

my post 92, and

after

the first player calling attention to my 92.

Which suggests that there isn't actually two factions of 1-2.

If there was two factions of 1-2, they should've seen my

opening

post as the scumslip

. Yet they didn't.

So, what does that tell you?

That at least one faction has three, and precisely three, members.

And this faction genuinely believes that I TMI'd thanks to THEM having TMI.

Notably, proof of this is in MathBlade's replacement.

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.

Wdm cult game
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.

Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?

Notice something?

In this post, MathBlade sees me imply a 1-2 member cult mafia faction but

doesn't think it's suspicious

.

(Yes I am aware that's too few scum since the approximate amount should be 6, so I'm townreading slots I shouldn't be, but for

now

, this'll do.)

This post by Mastina is suspicious.
It’s clear from the presenters here we don’t know if cult can recruit.
Yet somehow Mastina ends up on 6 because why?
VOTE: mastina

Yet here, me stating ~6 scum, MathBlade sees as suspect.

So the crux of the issue then becomes:

Why was the 3-man scumteam callout considered a scumslip, but the 1-2-man cult callout

not

considered a scumslip?

If MathBlade were town, then

my very first post

should have pinged him as a scumslip showing TMI of a 1-2-man cult.
If MathBlade were a member of a 1-2-man scumteam, he should have thought my opening post was a scumslip showing TMI of being his opposite.

But MathBlade didn't react to my first post being a cult game callout.

MathBlade only reacted to my post where I made the callout of a

three-man

scumteam.

And this is true of all the players who have gone on to suspect me.
Their pressure on me didn't begin until

after

144.

(Side-note, Bunnyonce might be scum, too, but if so is on the

opposite

team.)

So what does all of this mean?

That there is a scumteam with three members, who believed that my callout of there being six scum in the game was me as the opposite scumteam doing a TMI scumslip--when themselves ironically TMI'ing.

I still think that team is {MathBlade, professotic, Frozen Angel}, but obviously, I am behind and need to read the game.

I am on my phone exhausted after an extremely long day.

Post 18 doesn’t imply a 1-2 cult member team.

I don’t get why you’re highlighting it in bold. It’s a joke you sometimes do where you open as scum/town or a random alignment.

The 6 is considered weird because it’s oddly specific as previously explained

[MathBlade]

Because you usually open with that wording it’s just superfluous.

The 6 is odd because we don’t know anything.

Your opening as it is standard would not.

[mastina]

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.

Wdm cult game
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.

Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?

(Btw just for reference, I believe a town-MathBlade

would

tunnel in on this. That he didn't is evidence he isn't town.)

[MathBlade]

This is all very typical of scumstina. What exactly is scummy of what I am doing here?

You’re arguing that I am scum for focusing on certain details?

Even IF we took your argument as not flawed (which it is), what exactly am I doing that is scummy?

I really don’t want to go have a long protracted battle but if that’s the way it goes it’s the way it goes.

[MathBlade]

REJOICE! For your SAVIOR is--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi I am a maso--oh, wait, this is a cult game, I shouldn't open with that.
Hi, I am town.

Wdm cult game
Cult is just flavor, it's not confirmed they can convert.

Not sure about this post. The OP says cult conversion is neither confirmed nor denied.
Has there been an explicit message somewhere I missed?

(Btw just for reference, I believe a town-MathBlade

would

tunnel in on this. That he didn't is evidence he isn't town.)

You’d expect me to tunnel you for repeating a standard opening? Why?

[MathBlade]

The post I was suspicious of was Enchant’s not yours.

[MathBlade]

This is all repeating my point before.

Mastina isn’t analyzing the game like she does when town.

There’s no relationship data there at all.

[mastina]

Maybe mastina would like to finally confirm for us if she thinks FA is in her scum or town meta?

I already did, repeatedly.

My stance on FA I really don't get why y'all don't understand it, I'm being as clear as I can.

Frozen Angel has a night/day difference between her towngame and scumgame.
This is very damn strongly obvious. Her alignments could not be more distinct.

I

know

the differences IN the meta. I can identify the differences between one meta and the other. Just by her entrance into this game, I could tell FA was playing to her standard play as her alignment.
As in, if this is FA as town it is 100% her towngame;
If this is FA as scum it is 100% her scumgame.

If I have seen her towngame recently, I would instantly be able to tell her alignment in every game--because her play in this game is 100% matching to her meta, just by remembering what her towngame is, I'd be able to tell if it were matching that or matching the opposite.

If I had seen her scumgame recently, would instantly be able to tell her alignment in every game--because her play in this game is 100% matching to her meta, just by remembering what her scumgame is, I'd be able to tell if it were matching that or matching the opposite.

FA's metas are distinct enough that I can instantly tell when she is playing to one of them.

But my memory is rusted enough that it's not 100% on which is which.

I am like 90% sure that this is the scum meta.
But I am 100% sure that she is playing 100% to the typical meta for her current alignment.

If I had seen FA more recently, I'd be able to make the 90% into a 100% and that would make me 100% sure on her 100% playing 100% to that alignment.
But the 90% on a 100% is still pretty damn high.

The only thing that keeps it from being the most lockread of lockread is being rusty on FA gameplay.

Her alignment is transparently obvious if you've played with her recently. It is 100% her Xgame, where X = her alignment this game. If you've seen her play, and if you know about the night/day difference, then you should be able to tell what X equals, and therefore have a 100% guaranteed accuracy on FA.

I just haven't played with her recently--thus, I need to look it up.
When I actually do my research and refresh my memory on which meta is which, I will know FA's alignment 100% because she is 100% playing to her meta for her current alignment and I know the differences between her two metas.


OH I JUST FIGURED OUT A MUCH SIMPLER WAY TO EXPLAIN ALL OF THIS.

Imagine that we're talking about Creature.
Say you know that Creature posts a shitload as one alignment, and hardcore lurks as the other.
You see this trait present in the current game, where he is either posting a shitload, or he is hardcore lurking. Not an in-between. 100% posting a shitload, or 100% hardcore lurking.

You know that this stark contrast is alignment-indicative for Creature.

But you don't remember which is which.
You're

pretty

sure that the hardcore lurking meta is the scum one. So, say this is a game where Creature is hardcore lurking. You are thus

pretty

sure that Creature is scum. You KNOW that he has a night/day difference between the town/scum metas, you can SEE the difference in live time by seeing that he is hardcore lurking and know that hardcore lurking is either the brightest of bright days or the darkest of dark nights in being a huge alignment indicators.
But you're rusty on Creature and can't FOR SURE remember it, in spite of being pretty sure it's the scum meta.


...Does that make sense?

That's my read on FA.
I am

pretty

sure that this meta is FA's scum one. So I am

pretty

sure that FA is scum. I KNOW she has a night/day difference between the town/scum metas, can SEE the difference in live time. But I'm rusty on FA and can't FOR SURE remember it, in spite of being pretty sure it's the scum meta.

[MathBlade]

That’s a lot of words for “I am claiming I am really sure this is FA scum alignment”

But no why. What post of her opening makes you say that?

What is she doing that is scummy?

It has emotion sure but there is no explanation there.

I could write an essay if I wasn’t so damn tired of why you’re scum.

The difference is yours is so empty.

Your posting these big word arguments for rapport to try to mimic your town meta but you need me to be the obstinate one the tunnelly one the loud one.

It’s just not going to happen and if you push this battle you will lose and very likely be dead.

[MathBlade]

If it can’t be more obvious EG FA uses the adjective “bigly” and tunnels players starting with P state THAT as the criteria

(That criteria is made up as I have my own tells for FA scum she hasn’t done yet)

I just don’t think she’s scum here and “But trust me she’s scum like really trust me” does Jack and shit.

[mastina]

I would like her to explain the meta tells she is using

.

Well STD is easy. He is too casual to be mafia. And until he basically left the game because he felt he was being too serious, he was quite active, too.

STD as scum is more serious and more lurkey. (Note that STD flaking out is not lurkey, it is him having a bad reaction to the game--that, given the way it happened, I feel was extra town, because STD was being casual and it happened. If STD were scum, then he would just ease up, back off, knowing he did too much. But STD as town already

was

in his perspective being fairly lax/loose/laid back, so IN THE STATE HE SEES AS laid back, feeling he went too far = he just...leaves. Which hard-spews him as town.)

FA it's more about her opening posts and focus and what she's spending time doing and what her priority was. One meta is more serious, the other more casual. I

think

that the serious meta is the scum meta and this was the serious meta, thus scum.

Now!

These are not full explanations, mind you!

If you think this is a full explanation of the meta on STD or FA, fuck no, there's a lot more--but respectfully, this early into the game, I don't want to give out too many details. Explaining your tells midgame generally is a fine way to invalidate them.
So like. I'm keeping it deliberately vague/unspecific because I don't want to give them a guide into fooling folks in the future. I quite

like

being able to see them as their true alignments.

[MathBlade]

I would like her to explain the meta tells she is using

.

Well STD is easy. He is too casual to be mafia. And until he basically left the game because he felt he was being too serious, he was quite active, too.

STD as scum is more serious and more lurkey. (Note that STD flaking out is not lurkey, it is him having a bad reaction to the game--that, given the way it happened, I feel was extra town, because STD was being casual and it happened. If STD were scum, then he would just ease up, back off, knowing he did too much. But STD as town already

was

in his perspective being fairly lax/loose/laid back, so IN THE STATE HE SEES AS laid back, feeling he went too far = he just...leaves. Which hard-spews him as town.)

FA it's more about her opening posts and focus and what she's spending time doing and what her priority was. One meta is more serious, the other more casual. I

think

that the serious meta is the scum meta and this was the serious meta, thus scum.

Now!

These are not full explanations, mind you!

If you think this is a full explanation of the meta on STD or FA, fuck no, there's a lot more--but respectfully, this early into the game, I don't want to give out too many details. Explaining your tells midgame generally is a fine way to invalidate them.
So like. I'm keeping it deliberately vague/unspecific because I don't want to give them a guide into fooling folks in the future. I quite

like

being able to see them as their true alignments.

“But trust me! I am really not scum! I really have these reads and they aren’t self serving at all because I want these players dead.” (Joking voice caricature of Mastina’s post to make a point)

[professotic]

So I come into thread and Mastina is open wolfing?

[professotic]

Mastina has been wrong in metas this game.
They are wolf.

[professotic]

1 Radical Rat - Wolf
2 Mastina - Most Confident Wolf
3 professotic (Hydra of Professordrapion and tictac) - Lock Town
4 Dingle Dangle Scarecrow (Hydra with Klick and Bellaphant) - Mafia (went back)
5 Child of Fairies - Null
6 Past Present Future (Hydra of Nancy Drew 39, Titus, and Auro) - Mafia
7 Yume** - Null
8 Enchant - Null
9 Bunnyonce (Hydra of Aisa and Greeting) - Mafia
10 MMR (Hydra of Ircher, RH9, and Roden) - Town
11 Frozen Angel - Town
12 Maid Cafe* - Town
13 Korina Mathblade - Town
14 Furtiveglance - Town
15 Save the Dragons* - Town
16 T-Bone - Town
17 radja - Null but probably town

[mastina]

I would like her to explain the meta tells she is using

.

Outside of STD and FA tho:

LOCKTOWN:
{Past Present Future, Save The Dragons} (most locktown of locktown)
TOWN:
{Yume, Radical Rat, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow}
{Maid Cafe, MMR}

TOWNLEAN:
{furtiveglance}
{Enchant}
{T-Bone}


{Child of Fairies}
{Radja}


{Bunnyonce}

SCUM:

{Frozen Angel}

{professotic}

{Korina/MathBlade}

This is the towngame of all three heads of PPF but in particular Nancy. Nancy is one of the easiest players to read onsite and every player having the slot remotely suspicious that has played with her is automatically suspect for not calling her the townie she is. But even Auro and Titus are showing themselves to be town. I shouldn't need to explain the Nancy meta but I can go into the Auro/Titus ones if needed, it's just that it'd be a lot of time/effort for something I don't see as important to lay out. The Nancy meta is enough. I'm not the only player to have played with Nancy here and not every player who knows her play will be scum so like. All it really takes is ~2-4 players verifying she's town and you can know she is in fact town.

Yume, I feel like in this game her content was closer to her town self. Her early interactions seemed to be laying the groundwork for her townplay. It's another read I don't want to explain, but can show. Yume adapts her meta when tells are pointed out, so I want to avoid pointing out the tells I am using to call her town. But it's basically what she was doing, when she was doing it.

Dingle Dangle Scarecrow has Klick in it, and this is not the first time I have seen Klick as town in a multiball game. He is

exactly

the same player he was in Multiball2, so that's why he's town this game.

Maid Cafe is not a meta read but play read. Mostly, the same for MMR, too.

Loosely

I would say that MMR's play looks like each head in a towngame but obviously, not easy.

furtiveglance, I explained already--this doesn't look like his play in Datisi's Cafe. In Datisi's cafe, he was effectively scum in a multiball game, in a way incredibly comparable to this game. Him being vastly different from that game is promising for it being him as town.

Rest of reads aren't meta except tictac and MathBlade. (Well I guess I think Greeting's play is loosely Greeting's scum meta, but like: not enough to call it an actual meta read.)

tictac I don't feel like explaining; MathBlade I am continuously explaining by laying out the way he thinks as town and why his thoughts this game are vastly different from the way he would think as town.

[professotic]

I feel like Bunny and Mastina have high partner equity tbh.

[MathBlade]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13353186

Compare this to the “word voice tell”

And yeah you already explained that I am different than

some

games.

I agreed I am different than those.

I am still town however.

[professotic]

Look right here folks.

Look at the fake ass wolf read on us.

[MathBlade]

I feel like Bunny and Mastina have high partner equity tbh.

I disagree. I can’t figure out who with but it’s unlikely bunny. I don’t think she points out the question that no one else did if aligned with Mastina