huh?In post 1149, Alisae wrote:what I meant by I didn't read it is I didn't read all teh wall posting in depth, what I did read is that it seemed like they were both pushing each other for being at arm's length, which makes me think they're aligned with each other
i reread marashuIn post 1119, Alisae wrote:since when the fuck did we have 3 mastinas in a mafia game what the fuck I didn't sign up for this...
do you wanna share what you saw with the classIn post 1153, Cephrir wrote:i reread marashu
hmmmm I wonder if that's +scumIn post 1154, Cephrir wrote:i quoted that like an hour ago for a post i ended up not making
it wasn't inspiring, i say uninspiringlyIn post 1155, Alisae wrote:do you wanna share what you saw with the classIn post 1153, Cephrir wrote:i reread marashu
shrug. sure. i was just going to agree and i decided i wasn't adding anything worth spending a post onIn post 1156, Something_Smart wrote:hmmmm I wonder if that's +scumIn post 1154, Cephrir wrote:i quoted that like an hour ago for a post i ended up not making
In post 642, mastina wrote:Conftown. Datisi's a major wagon, but Datisi has no interest in appeasing the players voting him, or being survivalistic, or really trying to actually fight--instead, he's sorting and pushing for who he thinks is scum.In post 636, fireisredsir wrote:confscum or conftown and whyIn post 633, mastina wrote:Datisi's never scum here btw.
The vote's wrong since it's on town.
But Datisi is conftown for this series of posting and the vote.
The Val vote has basically no momentum, but the Datisi wagon does--a Val vote does Datisi no favors.
In post 643, fireisredsir wrote:you would have miscleared datisi in like every scum game he's played recently then, thats p shallow reasoning
I'm observing something in this interaction and that is how fire made a direct shot and mastina took it and blend. Let me rephrase that, fire removed the foundation of mastinas read, and mastina didnt react to that and instead went back on her explanations of a read she feels about and "probably described bad"In post 645, mastina wrote:My explanation might be flawed to make it seem that way but it very much is not. Datisi is town for two dozen reasons. Everything he is doing is town. It just is never scum here.In post 643, fireisredsir wrote:you would have miscleared datisi in like every scum game he's played recently then, thats p shallow reasoning
Norwee is hard null for me. I dislike the wagon that was made on the slot for the direction of pressure that players who voted applied on norwee (instead of giving the slot something to react to or answer to that would help reading it better)In post 646, mastina wrote:Btw I hold to this being a true scumbloc no matter what to be honest.In post 644, mastina wrote:{Norwee, Alisae, Something_Smart} feels like a solid 3/5..
I don't have nearly the same level of certainty about elsewhere.
But I individually think this is Norwee's scumgame;
I individually think this is Alisae's scumgame;
I think that Norwee and Alisae are very specifically scum together;
Something_Smart isn't directly tied to them per se but I individually do think he's scum (sadly) and that his stances fit as scum with Norwee and Alisae.
I also scumread Titus but I'm honestly not sure if she fits as scum with them, it might be possible? But something about saying {Alisae, Norwee, Something_Smart, Titus} as 4/5 feels too easy, feels too surface-level, feels too shallow to be real. I don't have any better ideas, mind you, but better ideas can come from future day phases as we progress.
Kitty said nothing in their entire ISO till that point not just the big post actually. but how is not being involved in game from a "scum mindset" and cant be just from a town mindset that doesnt know what to do/dont feel like spending time in game/is lazy?In post 647, Datisi wrote:no, no i don't think so. though, out of curiosity - if i had answered "yes, i do think i'm outside my scumrange here", then what would you do?In post 623, catboi wrote:Like, do you think you're out of scum range right now? Because so far I think you're in the middle of both your ranges.
ftr, my poke towards you wasn't meant as a "catboi *should* have a read on me by now," it was a "i hoped he'd have a read on me by now, as that will potentially help me read him."
anyway, i like the reasoning for kittytacky being scum. upon my skim, i skipped that post because big post, but when i got back to it... it really did not say anything, huh. and the fact that he took the time to photoshop my avatar onto a clam (and photoshop it kind of *well*, considering the white pixels are barely visible), rather than, you know, do things in the game... yeah. it kind of reminds me of that one thing i did in smuggler's, where i also tried to be funny by posting an image instead of like, y'know, doing things. also, screw you for making me remember that game.
VOTE: kittytacky
after i eat, will get to isoing people to try to make sense of my weaker reads, and actually give reason for my stronger ones.interested in why mastina's so certain she's not misreading me here (despite fire specifically saying her reasoning is flawed - which i do agree with).
MAYBE. I KIND OF THINK S_S IS A PROTECTOR OF STARCLAN BASED ON THEIR POSTS SO FAR. I GIVE THEM A TRUST (CLOSER TO NULL) READ. IT MIGHT HELP YOU SOLVE FASTER IF YOU SHEEP MY READ ON THEM, I'M USUALLY RIGHT.In post 1160, Frozen Angel wrote:something_smart - at least till this point of game that I read can be very much scum and I vibe there totally
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT A PROTECTOR OF STARCLAN SOUNDS LIKE WHEN THEY BECOME MANIPULATED BY A DARK ONE.In post 1160, Frozen Angel wrote:I think its more likely [DATISI'S POST 647 IS] from a town mind set? yet it has this slight manipulative attidue mixed in it (to say yeah I'm thinking about your read on me truely even if I'm happy you're town reading me) which is not an inhernetly scummy manipulation
what matters is if he followed up on this later or asked similar questions or not.
In post 1156, Something_Smart wrote:hmmmm I wonder if that's +scumIn post 1154, Cephrir wrote:i quoted that like an hour ago for a post i ended up not making
YOU SEEM A LITTLE TOO BOTHERED BY THE IMPLICATION IN ORDER TO PULL OFF THE SHRUG RESPONSE. WHAT'S REALLY ON YOUR MIND? HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE SCUM?In post 1158, Cephrir wrote:shrug. sure. i was just going to agree and i decided i wasn't adding anything worth spending a post onIn post 1156, Something_Smart wrote:hmmmm I wonder if that's +scumIn post 1154, Cephrir wrote:i quoted that like an hour ago for a post i ended up not making
In post 1118, catboi wrote:Now it feels like you're trying to nitpick me because it's really not hard to see what I mean by these, I don't think.
this means you ISOed cephir right?In post 650, Datisi wrote:why did this post exist and how did your thoughts evolve since then?In post 432, Cephrir wrote:if i had to vote right now it would be for datisi but i don't have to vote
Titus not knowing "protector of starclan" is just the default town and assuming its a special thing some (including them have) is somewhat of a town tell.In post 663, Titus wrote:[Flavor] - PROTECTOR of StarClanIn post 662, Mistyx wrote:would you be okay elaborating on what you mean by thisIn post 661, Titus wrote:I do not have that passive yet. My PM mentioned nothing about leaders but left open the possibility they exist.
My thinking (which is now likely wrong), each PT had one apprentice, one warrior, one protector and one ?. I am a protector myself.
because i'm not sure if you mean protector in the sense of role or some mechanical thing
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but what about her post itself and not the mechanical argument. I mean what about her knowing/not knowing/acting as she doesnt know things?In post 673, Datisi wrote:i don't care about mechanics
or more precisely, i can't read alignment from mechanical arguments
well for one, I've been basiclaly away for like 4 years + with exceptions of 2 3 games in middle? so it doesnt matter xdIn post 686, Marashu wrote:Well, since it's coming up for other people, I'll bring up I also had to step away from the site last Nov so I haven't played in almost a year.
Re: Bell/Datisi, now that I've stepped away, I'm less focused on their interaction. I still think there's something off there.
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mastina's case on Alisae/Norwee is very compelling. I feel like her arguments on Alisae are stronger so it's interesting that she's more sure on Norwee. VOTE: Norwee
Mistyx gets a frozen angel pat patIn post 692, Mistyx wrote:so given this, why are you voting norwee and not alisae, if you think the case on ali is stronger?In post 686, Marashu wrote:mastina's case on Alisae/Norwee is very compelling. I feel like her arguments on Alisae are stronger so it's interesting that she's more sure on Norwee. VOTE: Norwee
Thats always a bold assumption to be right on two scum reads and a town mind set always pushes for their strongest read, when eliminating is not even being persued in day.In post 693, Marashu wrote:Because that's where the pressure is currently, and if they're both scum then does the order matter?In post 692, Mistyx wrote:so given this, why are you voting norwee and not alisae, if you think the case on ali is stronger?In post 686, Marashu wrote:mastina's case on Alisae/Norwee is very compelling. I feel like her arguments on Alisae are stronger so it's interesting that she's more sure on Norwee. VOTE: Norwee
WELL, YOU WOULD BE STRUGGLING TOO IF YOU GOT A RED PM, FROZEN ANGEL. HAVE SOME EMPATHY FOR MARASHU.In post 686, Marashu wrote:Well, since it's coming up for other people, I'll bring up I also had to step away from the site last Nov so I haven't played in almost a year.
In post 1166, Frozen Angel wrote:well for one, I've been basiclaly away for like 4 years + with exceptions of 2 3 games in middle? so it doesnt matter xd
i isoed everyone (other than the people i already had a strong read on)In post 1166, Frozen Angel wrote:this means you ISOed cephir right?
That's strange. I never voted Datisi in this game.In post 1166, Frozen Angel wrote:"[5] NorwegianboyEE: mastina, Something_Smart, Mistyx, Bell, Marashu
[4] Datisi: Dannflor, Frozen Angel, NorwegianboyEE , PenguinPower"
votes at vc 1.3, I'm not sure how the bolded players jumped on the two wagons with momentum and I feel like their point of pressure might have been intentional.
I remember Bell literally voting norwee with 97% post of mastina as refrence without checking anything of norwee there. How Marashu jumped on it also felt wrong
then there are norwee and PP voting datisi after me and I don't recall how they got there which can be a bad sign cause I was just reading and catching up since there (well starting last night)
this was about SS btw. I wanna know what posts gave you such impressions. can you be more specific about how you got there?In post 722, catboi wrote:This, also is something tht is going to be hard to explain without getting into everything about his playstyle but in the simplest possible terms, he's involved and has actual thoughts about the game ad is trying to figure things out. By his own description his scum playstyle is "basically treading water". I realize he's consciously altering his playstyle this game because normally he never gives this many reads or is this proactive as either alignment but I lean toward believing it's real and town-motivated, because he's self-aware of how his own meta is perceived and is able to play into that as scum, and I think he'd be less likely to try a playstyle ateration as that alignment. There's also little things about who he's choosing to give reads on and the stuff he's saying about being paranoid of the people he likes solving with that rings very real to me.
good vote from norwee
yeah this is too raw from SSIn post 757, Something_Smart wrote:I think this is town also but I don't have to like itIn post 661, Titus wrote:I do not have that passive yet. My PM mentioned nothing about leaders but left open the possibility they exist.
My thinking (which is now likely wrong), each PT had one apprentice, one warrior, one protector and one ?. I am a protector myself.
fire is my closest thing to a town read at the momentIn post 760, fireisredsir wrote:also i don't think you really have to worry about the post restriction, you have 13 posts lol. just play normally and you're never gonna hit 200 posts in a day
getting more engaged is like the ideal result of a wagon, thats kinda the goal, to see how the person responds to pressure. and i do think your response feels townier than your response to pressure in turing test
VOTE: marashu
good post from alisaeIn post 761, Alisae wrote:In post 741, KittyTacky wrote:I'm struggling to adapt to this post restriction.So like, are you just lying?In post 745, KittyTacky wrote:I'm legit trying but it's hard. I also never played a large theme before.
Because I don't believe you considering at a cursory look at your games where you don't even break past 200 posts in COMPLETED GAMES and we're only in d1.. Like, there are players in here that post way way more but you're the one that's struggling??? Like, 200 is such a lenient post cap I don't see how anyone can struggle as long as they show some restraint and like, actually post with purpose.
But those are the only two options. "was it from a town mind set" or "was it from a scum mind set"In post 766, Alisae wrote:How are these questions real things being asked???You think you are sheeping something that makes sense and I think you are using that to justify hiding behind mastina.
umm ... ok?
yeah but you talked about your other null reads.In post 1168, Datisi wrote:i isoed everyone (other than the people i already had a strong read on)In post 1166, Frozen Angel wrote:this means you ISOed cephir right?
if someone ended up in null despite that, that means they are null to me
I CAN SEE "TEAM POTATO" FIELDING A SCUM TEAM OF DATISI + CEPHRIR + MARASHU + ???In post 1171, Frozen Angel wrote:yeah but you talked about your other null reads.In post 1168, Datisi wrote:i isoed everyone (other than the people i already had a strong read on)In post 1166, Frozen Angel wrote:this means you ISOed cephir right?
if someone ended up in null despite that, that means they are null to me
there was absolutely nothing to talk about relating caphir?
